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Thank you for blessing the thread with Willem Dafoe's john holmes sized anaconda
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2009 interview with Lars von Trier about Antichrist posted:Willem Dafoe — and I think you've mentioned this before — plays probably the worst therapist in the history of movies.
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Mar 3, 2024 19:59
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if you disliked this movie you're probably dumb tbh
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Mar 3, 2024 20:33
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Was originally going to post that interview, and then remembered he did enough weird theater poo poo in the 80's that surely footage existed. And alas, it does. And it's perfect.
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Mar 4, 2024 00:06
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Coming to Hulu on Thursday.
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Mar 4, 2024 02:45
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Sarah Cenia posted:if you disliked this movie you're probably dumb tbh i didnt like it very much other than i have a soft spot for movies that are at least trying to do something different
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Mar 4, 2024 04:58
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Sarah Cenia posted:if you disliked this movie you're probably dumb tbh it’s steampunk for horny art house people
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Mar 4, 2024 13:36
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it’s steampunk for horny art house people Yeah it rocks
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Mar 4, 2024 13:51
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah it rocks It’s a solid 3 outta 5 but it’s my least favorite thing Lanthimos has done since Alps. Emma Stone salvages it, I feel like she understood the material better than he did.
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Mar 4, 2024 14:27
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I feel like she understood the material better than he did. That seems difficult to imagine since Yorgos met Alisdair Grey to discuss it, developed it over a decade, and worked with Tony McNamara on the vision for the screenplay. But it's very different from the book in interesting ways, so I guess it depends how you interpret "the material". Either way, I like it a lot.
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Mar 4, 2024 14:44
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oh I haven't read the novel, I just meant she understood what was interesting about the scenario and the film itself better than Yorgos did.
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Mar 4, 2024 16:06
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I liked it but can someone explain why 60% of the movie is Bella having sex? What's the message there?
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Mar 5, 2024 06:22
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watched this tonight
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Mar 5, 2024 06:32
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Kefa posted:I liked it but can someone explain why 60% of the movie is Bella having sex? What's the message there? Having sex is a natural thing and an easy source of enjoyment that a person curious about the world would gravitate to. Also explicit scenes contrast nicely with the oldtimey bildungsroman/european adventure novel aesthetics.
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Mar 5, 2024 07:58
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Kefa posted:I liked it but can someone explain why 60% of the movie is Bella having sex? What's the message there? Patriarchal societies are weird as gently caress about sexuality
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Mar 5, 2024 09:20
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Kefa posted:I liked it but can someone explain why 60% of the movie is Bella having sex? What's the message there?
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Mar 5, 2024 09:22
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It's part of Bella starting with a blank slate. She discovers furious jumping is a thing that she enjoys and others enjoy and so does it often, but she discovers there is shame over it which she has trouble puzzling out, and that people use it to manipulate and exploit, and she's not sure it should be that way. But she still likes it so she still seeks ways to have it without the manipulation and exploitation.
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Mar 5, 2024 10:31
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fatherboxx posted:Having sex is a natural thing and an easy source of enjoyment that a person curious about the world would gravitate to. Okay, that makes sense. I just felt it was a little too much.
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Mar 5, 2024 10:32
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It would have been too much in the hands of a worse filmmaker, but Lanthimos films it in such a detached style that it seems almost mechanical at times, like a rat pressing the heroin button. There's more passion in the dance scene than any of the sex.
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Mar 5, 2024 11:36
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distortion park posted:It would have been too much in the hands of a worse filmmaker, but Lanthimos films it in such a detached style that it seems almost mechanical at times, like a rat pressing the heroin button. There's more passion in the dance scene than any of the sex. Furious jumping is right Yeah, imagine, say, Luc Besson touching such material
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Mar 5, 2024 11:53
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fatherboxx posted:Furious jumping is right Would be as irresponsible as giving an arsonist a tour of a weapons depot. ------------------ One thing I enjoyed was how Bella's dialogue changed - at first it's just funny how she uses words, but you gradually realise that she's smarter than she seemed at first glance and has just learned language weirdly, from books and people talking to her like an adult. It's a wonderful script
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Mar 5, 2024 12:09
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distortion park posted:One thing I enjoyed was how Bella's dialogue changed - at first it's just funny how she uses words, but you gradually realise that she's smarter than she seemed at first glance and has just learned language weirdly, from books and people talking to her like an adult. It's a wonderful script I think this is brought up in the movie early on, something about Bella learning so many new words a day? I agree, it's a really nice touch. At some point, either on the boat or in Paris, her speech is noticeably more eloquent than Ruffalo's, which by then has devolved into swearing and puerile bitterness. I am still wondering what the significance is of having two slow, dramatic zooms into Bella's O-face. Some sort of bookends to her sexual awakening? I dunno, I might be overthinking it.
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Mar 5, 2024 21:19
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I went by myself when I saw the movie and the cashier gave me a pretty funny look that I didn't understand. Pretty early into the 2nd act I fully understood what that look was about, and did think it's a pretty odd movie to watch by yourself in a mostly empty theater.
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Mar 5, 2024 21:25
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It’s not your fault the cinema was empty though?
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Mar 5, 2024 21:35
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The_Doctor posted:It’s not your fault the cinema was empty though? We can't possibly know that
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Mar 5, 2024 21:44
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distortion park posted:It would have been too much in the hands of a worse filmmaker, but Lanthimos films it in such a detached style that it seems almost mechanical at times, like a rat pressing the heroin button. There's more passion in the dance scene than any of the sex. the trailer made me imagine a Burton film so the fact that it was so carefully navigated was honestly incredible.
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Mar 5, 2024 21:56
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Famethrowa posted:the trailer made me imagine a Burton film so the fact that it was so carefully navigated was honestly incredible. Ohhh, you're right..it does have a certain Burtonesque charm to it
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Mar 5, 2024 23:01
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distortion park posted:One thing I enjoyed was how Bella's dialogue changed - at first it's just funny how she uses words, but you gradually realise that she's smarter than she seemed at first glance and has just learned language weirdly, from books and people talking to her like an adult. It's a wonderful script It's really a key part of the movie - she has a limited vocab but she's not actually mentally a child. That's why she's in full command of her pronunciation. Same with her movements and dancing.
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Mar 7, 2024 07:20
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She's actually textually not in control of her movements for a long time. It's why her drawings and writings start so chicken scratchy even though her command of language and complex thought is far more mature. It's explicitly stated that her gross motor skills will lag behind the other parts of her mental development. Her staggering and stomping around like a toddler is not because she learned to walk weird, it's because she's not good at moving her body yet.
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Mar 7, 2024 14:16
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I watched it tonight on Hulu and loved it. I wonder how many people go, "Oh, Emma Stone, I love her," and put it on and stop watching immediately. It really was disorienting getting dropped into that world and try to figure out just what the gently caress is going on while these chimera go about their business of being a pig-chicken. Knowing the director, I expected it to be weird, and expectations were met on that front. Really pretty film, too.
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Just watched it on Hulu and liked it a lot. Lamthimos never fails to shock and surprise. One mild disappointment though, I really thought Bella was going to put Godwin’s brain into Alfie’s body at the end Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Mar 8, 2024 |
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Mar 8, 2024 11:34
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Steve Yun posted:Just watched it on Hulu and liked it a lot. Lamthimos never fails to shock and surprise. Yeah it's a good fakeout, you're meant to think that but it would have been narratively satisfying. Even moreso if you've read the book
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Mar 8, 2024 11:38
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I then thought she was going to put the dude's brain into the goat
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Mar 8, 2024 12:02
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Nah that’s how you get Black Phillip ***** My roommate pointed out that the color palate changes according to how people perceive color as they grow. Apparently newborns see in black and white? As she grows color is super saturated, and then becomes normal as she becomes a fully formed person
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Mar 8, 2024 14:23
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I loving loved this movie. It was so loving funny, which I did not expect. I’ve read a lot of the criticism in this thread and it seems like some people wanted this story to follow real life logic, and it’s really more of a fairy tale. Bella matures as fast as she needs to in order to suit the narrative, and that’s fine! And the ending was great! No loving way did God deserve a happy ending. Yeah he had a sad backstory but he was still a loving monster
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Mar 9, 2024 21:42
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I just want to watch Bella say things for another few hours.
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Mar 10, 2024 00:30
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stev posted:I just want to watch Bella say things for another few hours. You can read the book if you want more Bella dialogue (or watch interviews with Emma Stone if you'd just like to look at her, which is also understandable)
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Mar 10, 2024 09:31
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Absolutely loved this film. Probably my favorite of 2023 (though I watched very few films that premiered last year). Just resonated with it from the start. Emma Stone was wonderful but Mark Ruffalo nearly steals the show as the archetypical Victorian cad. God. Fundamentally, I think what separates Bella from everyone is that she is someone who lives without a sense of shame. I think the film regards that as ultimately, a huge boon for her - and the conflict mostly revolves around how all the people around her (primarily, but not universally, men) can't integrate it that with the social mores of an exaggerated Victorian England. The question this opens up is: is shame necessary for human existence? (I think, probably, but not in this world, or at least the benefits far outweigh the costs)
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Mar 10, 2024 19:49
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I think its more simply about womans autonomy because clearly men can do whatever they want without shame. Ruffalo indulges in every vice with impunity. Men can visit brothels but women who work at brothels are vilified. Then the General... well he's just a loving psycho. Its good that we also got some dudes like Godwin and Max to demonstrate men can also be okay.
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TheMopeSquad posted:I think its more simply about womans autonomy because clearly men can do whatever they want without shame. Ruffalo indulges in every vice with impunity. Men can visit brothels but women who work at brothels are vilified. Then the General... well he's just a loving psycho. Its good that we also got some dudes like Godwin and Max to demonstrate men can also be okay. Also Godwin is a poo poo.
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