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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Empire Soldiers should be compared to chaos marauders, warriors are the next step up in infantry, imo.

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

It's like total war games where you can get marauders that are light cavalry/skirmishers.

Although watching Bretonians plow through with a charge and then go into another combat in the same turn kind of makes me think skirmish screens might not be very useful.

Then again, skirmishers aren't supposed to be any good against cavalry anyway.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Games-Workshop has trouble keeping things in stock at the moment. Like say how not a single game store in the area has retributor gold paint for some reason.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The stuff on the back of the box is supposed to be 1:1 right?



Seems like some of the chosen have a lot of empty space on the base and aren't any wider than warriors. You could probably finesse some arrangement, the standard bearer looks like the biggest problem.

You can see how several warriors are hitting the edge of their base, and most chosen aren't that close to theirs.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I'd like to see someone try and pull that off on the table top first.

It should at least make for some funny pictures.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Total War games are also very much rank and flank games too. Three Kingdoms even has champion duel stuff.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Robert Facepalmer posted:

They aren't different kits, there is just a store entry for each unit entry. Same sprues, same box, the product descriptions say they build the alternate option.

Which really frikin confused me before I started reading descriptions.

Apparently the Ogryn box in 40K builds three different things, but it sure as hell ain't obvious when they all have different entries on the store list.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Robert Facepalmer posted:

I think that might actually be the point. Waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day, Gav Thorpe was talking about how new editions of books needed to have some kind of new models to drive sales otherwise veteran players would buy a book and be set for however long. If they just had 40k and AoS, the release cycle they currently have would be insane if the majority of releases fed into those ranges. Now that they have multiple games that have ranges smaller than AoS, 40k, but bigger than what a 'Specialist Game' had, the churn on the main range games is lessened. A bit.

One could also say something about the resources needed for those secondary games in maintaining the release cadence but as long as all that poo poo sells, who cares?

The interview posted in the specialty games thread

Arglebargle III posted:

Interesting video on the 40K domination of GW and the end of WHFB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSgtqUCTpi0

Might want to watch it on faster speed because this guy talks super slow.

time stamp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSgtqUCTpi0&t=3225s

Says the opposite and that people bought more miniatures when a new army book came out and the marketing team at games-workshop wanted new army books to make it easier for them to sell the new miniatures.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I doubt anyone in marketing cares about grogs or even knows that much about them anyway.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The biggest difference between Sigmanr and Fantasy as far as I can't tell isn't even rank and file but that things just die super fast in Sigmar and things similar to fall back in good order, retreat, route just don't happen.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

That's a lot of money for a sweatshirt I can't even try on.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I will get the warriors of chaos stuff if it's 80s and extra metal.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

How many chaos warriors could you need anyway?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

If only Marauders weren't so expensive.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Alright nerds, what's the best chaos related novel black library's got?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Nah I understand that most people don't want to read about bloodgurgling psychos and it wouldn't make for a very interesting book anyway. That's why I said related, since I'd imagine most stories would be told through a more relatable point of view.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

This is what I think I want

GhastlyBizness posted:

It’s entirely made of metal album covers and the tone throughout is of shrieking guitars.

But this is what I will probably appreciate more

GhastlyBizness posted:

Would second Riders of the Dead though. A lot more low-key but very good. Two empire soldiers get separated from their regiment, one sets up with a band of Kislev lancers, the other is taken prisoner by marauders.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Total War Warhammer 3 came out 2 years ago and the central story plot there focused on Kislev, so maybe it was supposed to line up with that at least in terms of marketing.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The paint job might be partially responsible here, but the eyes on the lord are uh a bit too narrow if you ask me.

It could also be a bad photo angle.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Hands look weird, so what.

The new cadian standard bearer in 40k has some long fingers, just don't look at it.

Edit: Also better to not look at the face too.

Edit2: Let's see how the model looks from the top down tabletop view as well.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Lol Be'lakor playing with a choose your own adventure novel trying to get Diederick not to die.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Yes, but the prose is kind of hard to deal with with obtuse grammar and vocabulary for the sake of it sometimes.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Cross-quoting from AoS thread

Apparently this guy has been right before so here’s hoping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwl2QKEyFHg

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Wonder if you could play team games with ally rules? Seems like it might add an interesting wrinkle.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

It's mentioned a bit somewhere in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xboq0xmON4&t=1135s

Mainly it sounds like the Detachment unit gets to do a reaction when a unit they're escorting gets charged.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Rank bonus doesn't go higher than 2 if there's no horde rule/modifier for the unit, I think.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Eediot Jedi posted:

Brets vs tomb kings battle of the box contents report. This showed off a few tomb king mechanics I hadn't seen like chariot runners.

Spoiler I guess but I feel like this is the first report where the tomb king player is competent :spooky:.

https://youtu.be/404DD5J_SRM?si=yRQhm82342yHLHNU

When watching this video the game seems so much fun to play.

But, the stacking of armor save, ward save, and then regen seems a bit too much dice rolling.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Duncan is the gateway drug but I think I'm now firmly on the Vince Venturella train of "this is the man I want to hear talk about paint"

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Expensive models make for a big point swing like in that Tomb King lord surviving with 2 wounds and winning the game by denying Bretonnians 500 points for their tally.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Eggplant Squire posted:

Did they get rid of 50% victory points for under half wounds?

Going by this, no idea, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=404DD5J_SRM&t=4348s

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Just as a reference point three different places (ones that I looked at anyway) in Ontario got their Old World shipment on the same week more or less.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

quote:

‘He must not be the pots that keep the paint separate,’ Dagobert said. ‘He must be the ever-darkening canvas, burdened with colour upon colour until he becomes a shade of ruin pleasing to all the Chaos Powers to look upon.’
I feel like there's some subtext here.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Issaries posted:

Visiting another towns nerd shop.
They were out of main rulebook like everywhere else... but they had both Bretonnia and Tomb Kings starters.

Now I got to paint some knights :haw:

Got a message from the store that the army books I pre-ordered were available, I don't think they even got any rule books in.

Army boxes were last week, so maybe rule books next week? Who knows.

Edit: store owner said GW cut rule book availability. He got his 20 boxes of Death Wing though.

Lostconfused fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 31, 2024

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

That one moment of greatness came at such a terrible price for the Kroot that they're still stuck in the phantom zone for a few more months.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Well that depends, what are the modifiers when charging the flank?

Because I don't see how you're cramming three units of zombies in front a single elven one.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Now lets be fair, all of games-workshop new names sound stupid, it's not just Sigmar.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The reboot of fantasy into sigmar was a huge clusterfuck so it's saddled with a bunch of terrible decisions. But they're stuck with them unless they want to do another reboot.

You can see that they were at least trying with it post launch though when it managed to go from



to

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

What about the guy talking in a dramatic count accent?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I assume it was the exact same story for both with games-workshop launching a new army without any clear idea of what they were supposed to be until much later.

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

North America got the starter boxes, but games-workshop apparently decided not to give us any rule books.

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