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so does glamour have any goodass must have spells? on the level of like horde of skeletons/mind hunt/falling fires/etc. Despair at Thau 3 seemed like a really good pickup if you're making a bunch of g2's. items too, any amazing glamour items? i saw people sayin the dreamstone is basically the new lightless lantern since it's at const 5 and costs 5 gems.
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Glamour summon spells are imo actually really really good now. I have a hard time not going down Evo for glamour since it has both illusory army and some decent attack spells The glamour stun spell for evo1 is pretty good since its like aoe3 and doesn't cause friendly fire and available early. Only problem is range1 and not boostable. Haven't found a good chassis for the Dance of Ephemeral Swords but i want to. Seems like dancing weapons got some more indepth mechanics and that counts as a lot of dancing weapons.
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Mu. posted:so does glamour have any goodass must have spells? on the level of like horde of skeletons/mind hunt/falling fires/etc. Despair at Thau 3 seemed like a really good pickup if you're making a bunch of g2's. Combat wise I think illusory army is popular. Gets you 20+ ethereal chaff for 1 glamour gem. I kind of want to play around with charm too, though I haven't gotten the chance yet. Shroud of splendor + shroud of bewilderment on thugs can be fun since it means the enemy has to make both a morale and an MR check to even attack. If you have a G5 mage Sandman's blessing looks interesting as an AoE 25 MR check or sleep spell that costs no gems, but I haven't gotten to test it out. Dreamstone is great if most of your mages have glamour paths. Dream Spool gives you 2 more illusory warriors and a temp glamour gem to cast illusory army for 5 glamour gems. Has anyone tried the mirror of long lost battles? The description is something about spawning a warrior illusion for every enemy that gets close but I assume it's actually 1/round or capped or something.
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Bremen posted:Combat wise I think illusory army is popular. Gets you 20+ ethereal chaff for 1 glamour gem. I kind of want to play around with charm too, though I haven't gotten the chance yet. Shroud of splendor + shroud of bewilderment on thugs can be fun since it means the enemy has to make both a morale and an MR check to even attack. If you have a G5 mage Sandman's blessing looks interesting as an AoE 25 MR check or sleep spell that costs no gems, but I haven't gotten to test it out. its one a turn for every turn you have an adjacent enemy
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Hey, uh, why cant my pretender build a temple to themselves?
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building a temple to yourself is cringe
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Hihohe posted:Hey, uh, why cant my pretender build a temple to themselves? union rules say only a sacred commander can build a temple
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Like wearing the band's t-shirt to see the band.
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You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Glamour summon spells are imo actually really really good now. I have a hard time not going down Evo for glamour since it has both illusory army and some decent attack spells Seconding this, especially Ephemeral Blast is nice: Overall damage is low, and fake, but it's a nice AOE and it has ridiculous low fatigue costs. Pare it up with Twilight to power up all your glamour mages, and there is suddenly a never-ending stream of deadly dreams raining down on the enemy. And sure, part of the damage will be negated, but the rest of the damage is armor-negating and can't be resisted by anything. It's surprisingly effective even at slowly grinding down big fat meatsacks of giants with fairly good MR, I shudder to think what would happen to a large army with small, less-than-stellar magic resistance. If you have a good source of level 2 glamour mages, it's like wielding a big imaginary hammer and then smashing down on the battlefield, repeatedly. Against enemies that need eyes to see, applying Blur is also neat. Dreaming your enemies to death while denying them even the last joy of revenge is just sweet.
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Hihohe posted:Hey, uh, why cant my pretender build a temple to themselves? He only enjoys being worshipped, he doesn't know all the background stuff that goes into doing the rituals. Does a star actor know how to build the sets?
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Libluini posted:Seconding this, especially Ephemeral Blast is nice: Overall damage is low, and fake, but it's a nice AOE and it has ridiculous low fatigue costs. Pare it up with Twilight to power up all your glamour mages, and there is suddenly a never-ending stream of deadly dreams raining down on the enemy. And sure, part of the damage will be negated, but the rest of the damage is armor-negating and can't be resisted by anything. Be careful with Blur and the other glamour buffs, though, in my current MP game several of my neighbors took true/spirit sight blesses. With the bless changes and all the glamour mages around it might become a common choice.
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Mu. posted:so does glamour have any goodass must have spells? on the level of like horde of skeletons/mind hunt/falling fires/etc. Despair at Thau 3 seemed like a really good pickup if you're making a bunch of g2's. For must-have early spells it's illusory army, hands down, followed by shadow warriors (blur isn't amazing in and of itself but it's a very easy and early mass-buff spell to get out). The G/N crosspath has Fay Footfolk as an excellent ritual summon and G/E has both cave kobolds (great siegers) and gnomes (outrageously good mages for cost).
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The real comedy with Glamour buffs is that both Aura of Splendor and Shroud of Bewilderment (low level personal buffs) have AoE versions later on. Specifically those spell effects are Awe 1, and "anyone attacking this unit needs to make an MR check or the attack is cancelled and the attacker also spends the next round confused." Latter one is less effective against enemies who ignore invisible, but still works to an extent (+4 MR). It also doesn't say anything about mindless being immune. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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orangelex44 posted:For must-have early spells it's illusory army, hands down, followed by shadow warriors (blur isn't amazing in and of itself but it's a very easy and early mass-buff spell to get out). The G/N crosspath has Fay Footfolk as an excellent ritual summon and G/E has both cave kobolds (great siegers) and gnomes (outrageously good mages for cost). Do note all the fay summons have to be cast in a forest. It's not a huge deal but it can be an unwelcome discovery if you weren't planning for it.
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The temple is going to cost 600 pounds of gold for one month. That's what is is going to cost. It's going to be a powerful temple. It's going to cost 600 pounds of gold.
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Bremen posted:Be careful with Blur and the other glamour buffs, though, in my current MP game several of my neighbors took true/spirit sight blesses. With the bless changes and all the glamour mages around it might become a common choice. Worth noting the game's manual is kind of... awkward about explaining what Glamour Buffs are bypassed by Spirit Sight (common as poo poo in EA, cheap bless, why wouldn't you have this) and which are bypassed only by True Sight (less common, hate elves) - Blur and some of the other "lesser" buffs are Spirit Sightable, whereas the Mirror Image/elf glamour is only True Sightable.
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Arianya posted:Worth noting the game's manual is kind of... awkward about explaining what Glamour Buffs are bypassed by Spirit Sight (common as poo poo in EA, cheap bless, why wouldn't you have this) and which are bypassed only by True Sight (less common, hate elves) - Blur and some of the other "lesser" buffs are Spirit Sightable, whereas the Mirror Image/elf glamour is only True Sightable. This was the case until quite late in the beta, but one of the very last changes they made was to make spirit sight work on everything true sight does. Unless they reverted it in an unannounced change, which has happened for a few things by accident, by I don't think it did here.
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my dad posted:This was the case until quite late in the beta, but one of the very last changes they made was to make spirit sight work on everything true sight does. The manual claims this ain't so, but who knows, not the easiest thing to test  e: Looking in game, the description of Spirit Sight doesn't say it does this, but the bless description of Spirit Sight says it does, so I blame the devs for not documenting their goddamn poo poo Feels weird though since it seems like it makes True Sight an objectively worse version of Spirit Sight - since its just Spirit Sight without the included darkvision Arianya fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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sullat posted:Just kevork them into enemy provinces or shuffle them off into labs if they're researchers. There's your Dominions health care system. Mine is worshipping a nature God and forcing wounded people to wear blood drenched rags. Works surprisingly well
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Bremen posted:Do note all the fay summons have to be cast in a forest. It's not a huge deal but it can be an unwelcome discovery if you weren't planning for it. I found a conjuration discount site in a desert as Feminie. I've got growth jacked up to maximum in that province hoping it will go forest on me so I can start getting some tasty fay.
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Takes 20 turns or so.
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Jabarto posted:Mine is worshipping a nature God and forcing wounded people to wear blood drenched rags. Works surprisingly well 5 bless points for recuperation? How do you get enough use out of that to make it worth it?
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I probably don't, really. Mostly I only go for it as the Jotun nations so I can slap a brand and a shroud on some Skrattir and turn them loose, and even then I'm sure there are much better things I could be doing.
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Skrattir can blood feast. Get better mileage out of stacked regen or something else.
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Griddle of Love posted:5 bless points for recuperation? How do you get enough use out of that to make it worth it? I picked it in order to mind hunt with sacred rishis but I got eaten by alligators before it came into play.
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Are there any good guides out there on how to develop the mid game? I’ve gotten pretty good at expanding with a range of different nations, but apart from “build as many forts as possible, hire as many mages as affordable, search search search for magic sites” I’m not really sure what to do after that. If I’m playing solo there’s usually someone rampaging in my territory and I’m scared to play online because my work schedule’s punishing and I know I’d have to miss crucial turns.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Are there any good guides out there on how to develop the mid game? I’ve gotten pretty good at expanding with a range of different nations, but apart from “build as many forts as possible, hire as many mages as affordable, search search search for magic sites” I’m not really sure what to do after that. If I’m playing solo there’s usually someone rampaging in my territory and I’m scared to play online because my work schedule’s punishing and I know I’d have to miss crucial turns. Have a research goal Make funny messages (humor+diplomacy increases survival chances) Make a plan to take out thrones/kill Doom Horrors in case of near cataclysm limit
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Good news, the new update fixed the Helldiver's armor... oh wait, wrong update, wrong thread! https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2511500/view/4102287868180507537?l=english quote:Asphodel
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"Carrion dragon now has a carrion vine attack that can infect targets with darkseeds" Darkseeds? I never played Aspho, is that new? "Heroism bless +50% -> +35% xp" A sensible balance choice. There were many that thought it was a bit too good. I always said that being a number, it would be easy to tweak it later (how much should a 1 bles point give? 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%...) "Weightlessness bless didn't affect combat speed" Small buff? "Terrain changes now affects resources and can make people migrate" While it sounds cool, this is more a fix to a previous oversight, before you could convert a farmland into a swamp and some of the values were still like a farmland. "Twiceborn no longer has any effect on most monster shapes" More no fun with Pretenders allowed! "Dreams of R'lyeh did not give Dimensional Overload in battle" Another "uhh what?" I never heard of Dimensional Overload. I guess it's the official name for the insane effect? "Pretenders no longer lose passive bless when outside dominion" Now, that's interesting, I wonder if someone better than me at Dominions can look at this, and open up some new strategies. "Returning from Inferno/Kokytos will now usually leads to a cave" Very Illwinter of them. "Fear and Dread no longer stacks with each other" I heard the new Fear effects could be overwhelming so this seems a fix to that.
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Oh poo poo can you be gog agog if you're playing Asphodel now?
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"Magic empowerment can now raise to max level 13" Has anyone ever empowered up to level 13 in anything that wasn't a gimmick SP game?
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SIGSEGV posted:"Magic empowerment can now raise to max level 13" I once subbed into a lategame hellgame that had an astral 16 vampire named "MIND BULLETS", yes
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my dad posted:I once subbed into a lategame hellgame that had an astral 16 vampire named "MIND BULLETS", yes lmao That's like 2k pearls
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I'm looking for a substitute for EA Pyrene (turn 28) for two weeks. Message me on the discord if you're interested.
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dark seeds is coverting things you kill to manikins. dimensional overload is the being in the void without void sanity debuff and the weightlessness thing is a nerf
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Passive bless being permanent even on the PG is probably to prevent weirdness from stuff like HP changes due to size if they had Larger or something. There aren't all that many passive blesses to begin with.Turin Turambar posted:
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