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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I’ve only seen Season 1 (and one episode of 4 lol) because I saw the bad reviews when 2 came out and wrote it off. Started watching it finally after listening to the recent trueanon episode reviewing the show as a whole. It’s pretty good, and takes on new meaning post-Epstein. The dialogue is clunky and there are some confounding editing decisions here and there. Otherwise I don’t get the hate. When you weren't able to binge it...it was a mess to follow with all the characters and yeah, the editing that switched gears every 2 minutes. Requires a 2nd viewing to fully comprehend the greatness of the antics of Ray Velcoro.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I’ve only seen Season 1 (and one episode of 4 lol) because I saw the bad reviews when 2 came out and wrote it off. Started watching it finally after listening to the recent trueanon episode reviewing the show as a whole. It’s pretty good, and takes on new meaning post-Epstein. The dialogue is clunky and there are some confounding editing decisions here and there. Otherwise I don’t get the hate.
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Why are people strident about Vince Vaughns performance? It taught me a whole new word!
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Mar 27, 2024 17:17
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I don't totally get the hate for Vince Vaughn in season 2. He wasn't a standout like Rachel McAdams but I'm not sure how that character was really supposed to be different than as seen in Vaughn's performance. I think every actor gave their best with the dialogue they were given. Pizzolatto REALLY needed an editor. You know it's a problem when every character has the same weird vocabulary that hasn't been common since maybe the 70s (it especially made me cringe anytime ended a sentence describing something with "like". No one says this!)
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I think every actor gave their best with the dialogue they were given. Pizzolatto REALLY needed an editor. You know it's a problem when every character has the same weird vocabulary that hasn't been common since maybe the 70s (it especially made me cringe anytime ended a sentence describing something with "like". No one says this!) I mean, it's OK to not like it, but IMO that's intentional. Vinci is a place out of time. A modern version of a 1920s noir gangster town that somehow coexists with modern day LA. Everything about it feels intentionally strange and surreal, including the language and mannerisms of the few inhabitants. The season in general has a very surreal feeling to it. There are multiple dream scenes and hallucinations. The bar scenes feel otherworldly. The color palette in most scenes has a washed out industrial tint.
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The character of Frank is a boring character. The other three leads are interesting and played by decent actors. Vince Vaughan is an ok actor playing a boring role.
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I'm a bit late, just finished S4 back to back to back with Mare of Easttown and Under the Banner of Heaven. True Detective was the weakest by far for a small community murder show.
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^ agreed. Lera Lynn - Lately from the S2 soundtrack is such a banger. The S2 soundtrack is so good and it's hard to believe that season came out nine, almost ten, years ago now 😲 I still feel it's such a good chaser to s1. S3 undercut itself with the resolution, s4 doesn't exist and used ai art in its set dressing  But S2 is spicy and acidic and strange in a really open ended way. There are no clear answers or clean resolutions.
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Mar 28, 2024 12:55
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I liked Vince Voughn in season 2.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:The character of Frank is a boring character. The other three leads are interesting and played by decent actors. Vince Vaughan is an ok actor playing a boring role. Frank is a lot more interesting than Taylor Kitsch's character, who had exactly One Thing going on. But, I think the connective tissue in season 2 was awful, and in general getting to the highlights like "I like big dicks" was an absolute slog.
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he's puffy and therefore fail
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Kosmo Gallion posted:The character of Frank is a boring character. The other three leads are interesting and played by decent actors. Vince Vaughan is an ok actor playing a boring role. Him having an existential crisis because of a stain on his ceiling is one of the best scenes in the entire series. He rules.
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Panzeh posted:Frank is a lot more interesting than Taylor Kitsch's character, who had exactly One Thing going on. But, I think the connective tissue in season 2 was awful, and in general getting to the highlights like "I like big dicks" was an absolute slog. Excuse you Kitsch has two things going on: he’s gay and he committed a bunch of warcrimes with NotBlackwater.
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The_Rob posted:Him having an existential crisis because of a stain on his ceiling is one of the best scenes in the entire series. He rules. This certainly lends credence to the suggestion it was supposed to be Lynchian
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The_Rob posted:Him having an existential crisis because of a stain on his ceiling is one of the best scenes in the entire series. He rules. Premise is this... Frank is/was basically a low-level gangster attempting to turn into something more professional. All of it is an act which he is doing poorly at to appear as some educated hack.
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TheBizzness posted:This certainly lends credence to the suggestion it was supposed to be Lynchian I think this was pretty obvious, what with the strange bar drunken spacetime bar. I think it was only intermittently successful at capturing that though, and frequently came across as ridiculous and thready rather than uncanny.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Premise is this...
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Mar 29, 2024 09:33
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All Frank's allies realised what a dork he was so quite rightly ripped him off.
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weird reference/potentially crossover- Frank's mom's last name is actually Sobotka
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Kosmo Gallion posted:All Frank's allies realised what a dork he was so quite rightly ripped him off. Yeah mostly. There were a lot of hodgepodge moments in there. The whole fist fight (no need to remove the rings) scene brought Frank back into the scene.
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But he's right. The suit wouldn't even fit him.
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HootTheOwl posted:I liked Vince Voughn in season 2. personally i prefer vince vaught in season 2
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Watching s2 for the first time right now and I have to say it… kind of sucks? I was halfway through the mid-season shootout when I realised I wasn’t feeling any tension or excitement because I just didn’t give a poo poo about the underlying mystery. I guess they’re after some bald guy who maybe knows something about whatever’s going on? Dunno, I’m starting to think goons lied and this season doesn’t Own Actually 
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Asgerd posted:Watching s2 for the first time right now and I have to say it… kind of sucks? I was halfway through the mid-season shootout when I realised I wasn’t feeling any tension or excitement because I just didn’t give a poo poo about the underlying mystery. I guess they’re after some bald guy who maybe knows something about whatever’s going on? Dunno, I’m starting to think goons lied and this season doesn’t Own Actually
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Asgerd posted:Watching s2 for the first time right now and I have to say it… kind of sucks? I was halfway through the mid-season shootout when I realised I wasn’t feeling any tension or excitement because I just didn’t give a poo poo about the underlying mystery. I guess they’re after some bald guy who maybe knows something about whatever’s going on? Dunno, I’m starting to think goons lied and this season doesn’t Own Actually Yeah, it sucks. Colin Farrell’s character is sometimes interesting but overall the entire thing is forgettable at best.
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This thread's greatest crime is convincing people that S2 is anything other than dogshit
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I Love Elvis
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Syncopated posted:Excuse you Kitsch has two things going on: he’s gay and he committed a bunch of warcrimes with NotBlackwater. Bezzerides and Velcoro looking like they were both about to have a stroke after the shootout while Woodrugh is just standing there with a lower heart rate than he would just sleeping was pretty great
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Forgot about the dumb names in that season.
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Was Bezzerides’ sister just doomed to stay in hiding or be a fugitive at the end? Some of those dudes Bezzerides hosed up at the orgy almost surely died, and she went under her sister’s name.
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Yeah, thought about that. "Sorry sis and dad, I just hosed up your lives basically forever."
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I've only seen episode 1 & 2 of season 4, and have only read a few pages of this thread so this might have already come up, but: E 2 ends with the dramatic relevation that Annie and Clark had the same tattoo. We've got 2 cops with detailed knowledge of Annie's case, (one of them can even be said to be obsessed with it) and none of them recall this tattoo from the autopsy reports? Am I missing something here? Freudian slippers fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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It might not be a great show, I’m sorry to inform.
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Freudian slippers posted:I've only seen episode 1 & 2 of season 4, and have only read a few pages of this thread so this might have already come up, but: You are not missing anything the shows poo poo and full of plot holes
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Thanks. I sort of knew that, but figured it couldn't be that bad. Too bad Navarro forgot to check the autopsy reports when she was obsessing over the case, I guess. And too bad Danvers did the same when she took over the case, I also guess? Not really surprising that the case wasn't solved, when you consider the quality of police work here.
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Lol just wait
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Just watched S4. There were bad scenes throughout and the reliance on jumpscares was awful, but the show at least kept me interested until it fell apart at the end. The last half of the final episode is really grim. I knew more and more I wasn't in for excellent television with each passing episode but the plummet towards the end there was dire. I just skipped S2 when I rewatched 1 and followed S3's release. I started S2 as it was coming out but just couldn't do it at the time. I must admit that I have also gotten more than one person to watch S3 by telling them "watch S1, realize you need more TD, if you start S2 and get an off feeling after twenty minutes, skip directly to S3 and don't look back" and I accept if I must be punished for it, but I think I might give it another go after reading some of the thread backlog.
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I liken season 2 to getting the wrong dish at a restaurant. Another way to see it is, it really isn't taking itself so seriously. Whereas S1 is something many ppl enjoyed by taking it seriously. And it feels affronting and almost weirdly personal when the frame you go into it with is disregarded and mocked. Following this reasoning, s4 is uhhhhhhh a work of genius wait uhhhhhh
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It's very similar to what happened with S2 of The Wire. People REALLY did not like them doing new things and IIRC it almost killed the show. Nowadays S2 is usually considered to be one of the best. After that they introduced new characters very sparingly and always tried to connect them to the established cast somehow. But of course that doesn't really work for an anthology show like TD where you have a totally new cast each season(they tried with Tuttle and Cohle references this season, but it's all just cringe). The only thing you can bring over from S1 to make the viewers feel familiar are the character dynamics, the plot structure, cinematography, artistic style, etc.. And that's how we got S3. It's S1 with a palette swap.
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It would have been totally cool and fine to leave the continuity between seasons to have been what it was over S1-S3. There are relatively strong themes of exploitation throughout; white, establishment, privileged men taking advantage of 'common' folks is central to all of the crimes presented. And there was some sort of throw away comment in season 3 about the season 1 case, but it had no bearing on the case itself, which felt unnecessary, but fine. Conceivably, all of the seasons take place in the same universe. S4 was just so ham-fisted and over the top with the references. None of them were subtle and it was made to be a central thread of the case even though it was entirely pointless. Cithen fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Apr 13, 2024 |
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