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I AM GRANDO posted:The “she is awake” line certainly seems to suggest a lovecraft-style ancient force that is now coming alive with the loss of daylight Seems to me that it's more about the murdered indigenous woman, but we'll just have to see. Overall, I agree with the other posters, the opener felt a bit weak and there were some horror cliques that I could have done without. I am also on team psychoactive gas or fungus or whatever caused by climate change/mining
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In all fairness "an arctic research team go crazy and all die under mysterious circumstances" is a pretty well worn setup, but one that can be entertaining regardless of the story device that makes it happen if it's well crafted. That's basically why I'm going to want to see how this turns out and I'm not really invested in whether it's magic or whatever. Although I don't think they're going to go in that direction. I'm betting on some pseudoscience stuff with hints of the supernatural. Shows like this are at their best when they're willing to leave some stuff unexplained.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:If they try to shoehorn in some mundane reason for how the lady followed the ghost of her son to the exact place where the bodies were I will be very disappointed. TD S1 was great because it hinted at supernatural poo poo but never went so far into it that mundane explanations would seriously disappoint. They've painted themselves into a bit of a corner here already unfortunately. I don't know, I think it could work if it's well crafted and they could just leave that as one of those cosmic coincidences that just sometimes happen in our world. I've talked to more than a few people who had some sort of spiritual awakening or experience that could be described as "right place, right time". You have the characters discover that everyone has been huffing psychotropic gases from the mines as a reason for why half the town has gone batshit crazy or the caribou all jump off a cliff or why eight guys ran naked into the snow and froze to death, but then have it left unexplored as to how exactly four or five different people with no connection (or a tenuous connection) have the exact same very specific hallucinatory experience about the ghost of a murdered Indigenous rights activist. The thing about S1 was that Rust Cole's attitude towards spiritual experiences as bullshit was also complimented by his regularly experiencing hallucinations. There was more freedom to tease the supernatural angle because you could never really tell how much of it was because Cole was tripping balls.
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Nephthys posted:I'm really liking this so far. I'm a heathen who was disappointed that season 1 never went full supernatural so I'm excited that this season seems to be going down that route. I'm liking this episode more than the first one, although I did spot those posters as "something is hosed up here" almost immediately. It's looking more like what I expect from a True Detective episode. Which is that there's some occult stuff, but it's more likely that it's just a native woman's crazy ex-boyfriend murdered her and mutilated the body. He was her lover, he's obviously batshit crazy, he has her coat, he took her tongue (probably), and he's still alive and is probably the source of that jump scare run across the screen thing that they did in episode 1 that I hated. No idea how the frozen dead guys fit into this or why their clothes were all neatly set out for. Oh, and I really liked that one guy still being alive after his arm or foot broke off. The howling scream was a good scare.
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Jan 23, 2024 01:37
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Nephthys posted:One of the victims being alive was a great WTF moment, yeah. It's so unexpected. I think the only way it makes sense is if he was infected with the micro-organism that prevents cellular decay, which would make him resistant to the frostbite enough to survive maybe? Clark starts rounding everyone up to go outside, so he injects himself with them as a last-ditch plan or maybe they were all infected and it was some sort of test to see which sample allowed them to survive. The clothes being neatly set out proves this was very deliberate and that someone had a lot of time to set the scene. Clark is definitely the prime suspect right now. Interesting idea on the ice screws. The interrogation of the surviving not-Clark scientist is next week I think, from the trailer at the end. We'll see where that goes with regards to how he survived.
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joepinetree posted:In terms of story, sure. I'm not really a fan of how this season is turning out either, but Navarro also has her own form of brain damage because we're assuming there's some genetic component of her mother's mental illness. Which is probably why that lady told her not to confuse spiritualism and mental illness.
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Feb 3, 2024 17:23
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I'm hoping that things don't get too rushed at the end. The mystery really isn't that complex and just comes down to finding Clark, who can probably answer the questions about what happened to both the scientists and Annie K. The detectives are closing in and the crazy German guy told them he's in the Night Country, which probably means the caves. Some plotlines definitely got resolved in this episode at least.
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my bony fealty posted:Navarro: theres no ice caves around I feel like that interaction works, even if it was a clumsy way to introduce the caves because it really hits a point that it made last episode which is that although Navarro is an indigenous woman she is absolutely not part of the indigenous community. Otherwise she would probably know something about the ice caves, which I assume are somehow going to be connected to the indigenous stuff and Annie K's murder.
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You know I think after watching the last couple episodes I'm changing my mystery answer from thawing bacteria driving people crazy to some kind of ice-cave based Havana syndrome. Maybe it's a magnetic field or low- or high-frequency sounds, but I think the bacteria angle is too easy.muscles like this! posted:Navarro's sister being found instantly is kind of bizarre. That was jarring to me too. I just chalked it up to lazy storytelling and a six episode time limit.
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Feb 6, 2024 04:24
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Digital Prophet posted:I will be so pissed off. It's not going to be supernatural. True Detective likes to hint at little occult stuff, but as a previous poster said the cosmic horror is just in the background and the real danger are regular human beings. Well, maybe not regular normal humans, but just humans. If you want supernatural stuff watch the X-Files (excellent show) or, I guess, Fortitude. I have no idea what Fortitude is about but other posters talked about it and now I want to watch it so I think I might do that. Something about evil supernatural stuff in the 'safest town on Earth' in the arctic circle. Which I guess means it's like True Detective, but way less depressing and there's going to be a demon or something.
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Feb 7, 2024 12:56
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When I have some free time after the next week I plan on watching it. I have no idea what's actually in it. To be fair, they did accidentally (or maybe ..) predict 9/11. Which made the whole thing really weird for me in college.
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Feb 7, 2024 22:30
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tetrapyloctomy posted:It was still canceled a few months beforehand, viewership just dropped off a lot from the beginning. I remember watching it a few times, the tone was just off. Part of me would like a dark, conspiracy-based show but on the other hand politics have gotten so bizarre the last few years I'm not sure I'd enjoy it very much anymore. A good Millennium reboot, though ... I remember Lone Gunmen being pretty bad too. Millenium was also a show that sounded like it had a great premise that I got excited for, but I remember just being really bored by half the episodes when I saw it. Then again I was in high school and really just wanted to see more of Gillian Anderson and monster of the week weirdness.
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Feb 8, 2024 00:05
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The actions of the scientists at Tsalal make more sense if you imagine the research station as akin to a medieval monastery in the middle of nowhere and remember that medieval monks were well known for being batshit crazy. I would have no problem assuming that the scientists were absolute whack jobs that were only able to fund their research by faking the numbers of the mine's environmental impact and could barely stand each other, let alone an outsider (especially a woman). Maybe Tuttle corp. is fine with hiring scientists who are talented or have enough grift to pass as talented, but also have some sort of severe personality disorder that makes them otherwise unemployable in the normal world. I tuned out after the fourth episode. Glad I did because it looks like so much of the series was wasted potential or weird poo poo that doesn't really serve a purpose. The whole thing feels, not lazy because I don't want to call it lazy, but rushed. Like the creators just had to go with what they had on hand and so you have parts that make no loving sense or seem half-baked.
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Feb 21, 2024 02:47
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Chairman Capone posted:I mean… there are actually quite a lot of arctic and Antarctic other remote research bases in reality and I don’t think the people staffing them tend to be crazy or maladjusted or homicidal. Oh I'm aware. I know two scientists who've spent time in remote science stations and both were women. I'm saying this specific station works better if you imagine that it's inhabited by medieval monks and Tuttle corp hires people who are talented but also severely messed up. Of course, the show doesn't really do this because it has its own story it wants to tell so we get a weird disconnect between what's shown in the first episode and the last episode. This sort of poo poo keeps happening and that's probably why this season kind of sucked.
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Solving one thing is progress towards a goal. You don't have to solve everything to win, you just have to make progress. That's like, literally the entire point of Rust's (shamelessly stolen) speech at the end of S1. Rust and Marty stopped one prolific serial killer from killing, that's a good thing. The cult itself might have escaped, but at least one high ranking member committed suicide or was murdered by his co-conspirators and the demented poison seed of the cult was killed when Rust took the top of his head off. That's a lot of people who won't be drugged and molested or murdered. Honestly, whether the cult even exists 17 years later is a matter of some opinion because it's possible the whole thing was based on one branch of the Tuttle family and they might have died out or just dispersed in the meantime. Of course, most of them will never pay for their sins, but at least some of them did. Similarly, killing the scientists is some progress towards shutting down the mine because the next batch of scientists may not be as willing to cover up the pollution reports from the mine. Also, realistically, it's about the best the indigenous lady hit squad could pull off because at the end of the day they're a bunch of cleaning ladies on a mission and not really a match for riot cops and professional thugs. If there was a real force protecting indigenous women from violence Ennis would probably not be the total poo poo hole that it is. Ithle01 fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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