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ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



rkd_ posted:

Seems like a bunch of people I know are returning theirs. I wonder what the return rate is.

im surprised that anyone knows a "bunch" of people who would buy them in the first place. not a critique or calling bs or anything, but i'm curious about demographics. do you know multiple IRL people who bought an AVP and are now returning them?

i work in tech and know people at places like spotify and meta etc who all make good money with plenty of disposable income but i have yet to see anyone post about having one.

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ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



two people in my office (i work for a small 50ish sized b2b startup) have meta quest headsets. one guy is a dev and he brings his in sometimes and sits at his desk wearing it while looking at like 8 virtual monitors at once. people walk by and see him and are always like "wtf" but he loves it

i can see him maybe upgrading to an AVP since he's locked into the use case but even he would probably wait for v2 or something

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



it's cool that apple figured out a way to not need a controller or remote, but how will they solve for accessibility? my friend's little sister has syndactyly (webbed fingers) and can't always manipulate her iphone screen without accessibility features turned on. usually apple is pretty good about this stuff so i'm sure they'll find out a way to do it and subsequently pull heart strings in whatever wwdc video they produce showing how disabled people can use computers better now with an AVP (even though it costs 3x+ as much as a cheap laptop).

also i can't imagine anyone who is not an insane apple fanboy even considering an AVP until they get rid of the tethered battery

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



gregday posted:

In Accessibility, you can change the clicks from being activated by a finger pinch to a mouth sound, like clicking your tongue or making some other monosyllabic noise.

genuinely happy to know this. i'll happily take jabs at apple at a moment's notice, but they do seem to have a pretty thoughtful approach to accessibility which is nice to see.

Lemming posted:

I actually disagree with this, overall the hardware is really good, but the software is just not good enough. A few things appeal to a few niches, but by and large most things in VR is just not compelling enough vs a regular flatscreen experience, that even if the hardware was magic and virtually unnoticeable, if it's not worth moving your head and arms around for people would just use the flatscreen stuff.

It's not a problem that's going to get solved with new hardware, it needs to be in people understanding the medium and making things that are an actual match for its strengths vs trying to replicate flatscreen experiences on them, which is most of what people seem to be trying now

for me it's a software and hardware issue. right now the hardware is constrained to a bulky, heavy headset with an external power supply, but those things will improve. the software does need to present a more compelling use case with more thoughtful approaches to how it disrupts my existing tech.

i do like the idea of what apple is trying to sell, btw. right now, i have a google nest screen near my kitchen sink/food prep area, one on my bedside stand, a desk monitor for my wfh setup, and a tv. plus i look at my phone all the time anyway regardless of which other screen i'm already looking at or when i'm on the toilet or whatever. if one headset could replace all of those (forget about having anyone over or living with anyone else) and be moveable/dynamic/etc, then that's a compelling use case.

i mean people are basically carrying a floating screen in their hand that distracts them from what they're actually looking at all the time anyway, might as well bring that screen in front of their eyeballs and show the "real" world behind it as well.

i'm not smart enough to know what to do with any of that stuff other than "hey screens wherever you want!" except maybe interactive experiences like getting to "visit" the eiffel tower or "go" to mars or whatever. i've always wished that, in my lifetime, space tourism would be accessible enough to potentially see the earth from space. turns out it'll probably be at least decently realistic enough through some VR headset type experience in lieu of the real thing in the next ~30 years so i can experience it as an old man.

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



can you even use one of the many macbooks or imacs in an apple store to visit a porn website? i imagine they can put restrictions on safari so you can't just go to any url

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ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



indulge us. what do you like about it that others aren't praising?

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