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Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

The robot. Not the famous poet. Get it right

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CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Johnny Keats posted:

The robot. Not the famous poet. Get it right

Wait that's a robot and a reference to an actual thing? Huh. Learn something new.

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

CubicalSucrose posted:

Wait that's a robot and a reference to an actual thing? Huh. Learn something new.

My namesake is from the amazing novel Hyperion, Johnny Keats an android and principal character in my favorite chapter

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

Well I'd be murdered by fans of the book for calling him an android but that was the first word I thought of

Illusionis
Dec 12, 2011
John, Johnny same thing really, I'd expect Jigsaw to have a token effort at disguise at least

Illusionis
Dec 12, 2011
The other candidates for Jigsaw I can think of are Cube and Moritz

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

Illusionis posted:

John, Johnny same thing really, I'd expect Jigsaw to have a token effort at disguise at least

If I were roleplaying as the character, that would be highly offensive. It's weird being the AI resurrection of a famous poet based solely on a collection of his poetry and data about his life

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
So what you're saying is, you're ChatGPT?

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

Cloacamazing! posted:

So what you're saying is, you're ChatGPT?

Hyperion was remarkably prescient when it comes to AI, though it describes a future well ahead of us still.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Johnny Keats posted:

I'm pretty sure the mod can also use the player list page on VF and drag my name to above Toal's, so that VF checks my aliases before Toal's



Johnny Keats posted:

idfk how Votefinder works

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven
I've found myself in the confines of what appears to be a mad man. I also am in the presence of abject psychopaths pretending at being normal human beings. I am doing my best to blend in, but I don't know who I can trust.

I smile and nod affably. I try not to panic.

I only know one thing... I must hunt scum.

##vote Tired Moritz

Save ourselves the trouble now. He's a villain!

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

##Vote Tired Mortiz

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut
##vote Tired Moritz

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 1

Tired Moritz (3): Idle Amalgam, Johnny Keats, CubicalSucrose
Johnny Keats (2): Illusionis, Cloacamazing!
CubicalSucrose (1): Idle Amalgam, Cloacamazing!, Cloacamazing!, SporkChan, Idle Amalgam
Toalpaz (0): Cloacamazing!, Cloacamazing!, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose
SporkChan (0): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose

Not Voting (3): mycelia, Tired Moritz, Toalpaz

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 23rd, 2024 at 4 p.m. CST -- that's in about 18 hours, 18 minutes.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.
This TMor push is highly suspect. Especially Keats and Cube coming in with contentless votes.

I'm still good with my Cube vote, but Keats or IA would be a good vote today too.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut
McNuggets were a lie, apparently.

##vote Toalpaz

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

SporkChan posted:

This TMor push is highly suspect. Especially Keats and Cube coming in with contentless votes.

I'm still good with my Cube vote, but Keats or IA would be a good vote today too.

I'm baiting scum reactions, just ignore me.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

CubicalSucrose posted:

McNuggets were a lie, apparently.

##vote Toalpaz

I appreciated their offer to be helpful, promising to help can be a useful tool. But you can't whiff on the follow-through.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Illusionis posted:

The other candidates for Jigsaw I can think of are Cube and Moritz

Hi! I happen to know the setup. I'm David Tapp, a cop (and literal mafia style cop) from the first few Saw films.

Because I'm a cop and every thing else that I've seen from Meen so far is pretty basic, I'm pretty sure that this is actually just a small C9, and it is made to look scary because it has SAW theming. Might is doing a lot of work in OP is my read.

There's 2 scum.

There's almost certainly two roles. My counterpart is a scum rolecop. If there are more town roles just dont be a dummy and claim.

The rolecop doesn't matter so much imo, because I'm claiming rn.

What matters is whether we can solve this game d1. I have some flavour reasons to believe Cube is scum, and because of that I also believe Spork is scum.

If we kill TM today, I will cop Cube n1 and Spork n2 and Mycelia n3

All I ask is that, we only execute one of them if I cop them as scum.

Until we do we execute TM, Keats, and Cloaca. In that order.

Scum will only kill me if my target is scum. Otherwise they'll kill my target, meaning I'll do nothing that night and clear nobody.

That means:

Exe, kill

  • D1 execute TM
  • N1 scum kill cube
  • D2 execute keats
  • N2 scum kill Spork
  • D3 execute Cloaca
  • N3 cop mycelia


leaving Idle Amalgram, Illusis, and I left alive. I have a good feeling about illusionives, so I'm very comfortable with this arbitrary order? If I'm right on any of my final day being town that means town has a superior chance of winning.

Any thoughts?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

CubicalSucrose posted:

I appreciated their offer to be helpful, promising to help can be a useful tool. But you can't whiff on the follow-through.

I was procrastinating because the plan took a lot of work to put together. I was scouring the mafia wiki for the setup that fit my role.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

SporkChan posted:

This TMor push is highly suspect. Especially Keats and Cube coming in with contentless votes.

I'm still good with my Cube vote, but Keats or IA would be a good vote today too.

based on what?

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Toalpaz posted:

I was procrastinating because the plan took a lot of work to put together. I was scouring the mafia wiki for the setup that fit my role.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9

Hmm...

##unvote

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Toalpaz posted:

Hi! I happen to know the setup. I'm David Tapp, a cop (and literal mafia style cop) from the first few Saw films.

Because I'm a cop and every thing else that I've seen from Meen so far is pretty basic, I'm pretty sure that this is actually just a small C9, and it is made to look scary because it has SAW theming. Might is doing a lot of work in OP is my read.

There's 2 scum.

There's almost certainly two roles. My counterpart is a scum rolecop. If there are more town roles just dont be a dummy and claim.

The rolecop doesn't matter so much imo, because I'm claiming rn.

What matters is whether we can solve this game d1. I have some flavour reasons to believe Cube is scum, and because of that I also believe Spork is scum.

If we kill TM today, I will cop Cube n1 and Spork n2 and Mycelia n3

All I ask is that, we only execute one of them if I cop them as scum.

Until we do we execute TM, Keats, and Cloaca. In that order.

Scum will only kill me if my target is scum. Otherwise they'll kill my target, meaning I'll do nothing that night and clear nobody.

That means:

Exe, kill

  • D1 execute TM
  • N1 scum kill cube
  • D2 execute keats
  • N2 scum kill Spork
  • D3 execute Cloaca
  • N3 cop mycelia


leaving Idle Amalgram, Illusis, and I left alive. I have a good feeling about illusionives, so I'm very comfortable with this arbitrary order? If I'm right on any of my final day being town that means town has a superior chance of winning.

Any thoughts?

So if I'm scum, you're saying that I would NK you N1 to prevent a positive cop result on me?

But since I'm town, scum will kill me tonight to prevent you from getting a clear.

I don't think this works because of a bunch of wine. First off, assuming your setup spec is even accurate, what's to stop scum from NKing you N1 regardless?

This would frame me. Or result in a no-kill (if there's a doc and the doc did the obvious thing of doccing you, which they might not if they've got a non-consecutive restriction).

If there's a no-kill N1, that's good, but either forces the doc to claim, and/or gets me miselim'd D2? I think?

Separately, I don't think I have hinted at all about my flavor so I'm not sure where your flavor reads are coming from.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
At the core of it, its a little gamble on whether scum would rather take me to end game or wuss out and kill me (if the whole string of cops are town). If any of them are scum they'll kill me anyways, but town gets info.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut
There's also the case where more than one body drops tonight, which could complicate things. And like, all the other ways the setup spec could be off.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Holy crap I haven't gotten scumrushed day 1 in ages

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

Toalpaz can you please explain the basis on which you have derived the game's setup?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
wow I cant believe some people here (not me) havent even made enough posts to hit the lurker limit. How unethical....



hello, mafia players of somethingawful. Im sure you're all surprised to see this. Let's play a game.... If you have not make at least ten posts in this thread by the end of the day... You will permanently be known as the losers that joined a game to not even post... and you will live your life humiliated, shamed and rejected until you will have to run and go back to worse forums like reddit or twitter... heed my warning.... no longer can you slack off work without having to dodge terrible takes or random porn from that show you hovered over for 1 second on netflix... All you have to do is make ten posts... and you will live... make your choice

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
not flavorclaiming btw

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Toalpaz posted:

Hi! I happen to know the setup. I'm David Tapp, a cop (and literal mafia style cop) from the first few Saw films.

Because I'm a cop and every thing else that I've seen from Meen so far is pretty basic, I'm pretty sure that this is actually just a small C9, and it is made to look scary because it has SAW theming. Might is doing a lot of work in OP is my read.

There's 2 scum.

There's almost certainly two roles. My counterpart is a scum rolecop. If there are more town roles just dont be a dummy and claim.

The rolecop doesn't matter so much imo, because I'm claiming rn.

What matters is whether we can solve this game d1. I have some flavour reasons to believe Cube is scum, and because of that I also believe Spork is scum.

If we kill TM today, I will cop Cube n1 and Spork n2 and Mycelia n3

All I ask is that, we only execute one of them if I cop them as scum.

Until we do we execute TM, Keats, and Cloaca. In that order.

Scum will only kill me if my target is scum. Otherwise they'll kill my target, meaning I'll do nothing that night and clear nobody.

That means:

Exe, kill

  • D1 execute TM
  • N1 scum kill cube
  • D2 execute keats
  • N2 scum kill Spork
  • D3 execute Cloaca
  • N3 cop mycelia


leaving Idle Amalgram, Illusis, and I left alive. I have a good feeling about illusionives, so I'm very comfortable with this arbitrary order? If I'm right on any of my final day being town that means town has a superior chance of winning.

Any thoughts?

BOUNTY HUNTER BOUNTY HUNTER BOUNTY HUNTER

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

Tired Moritz posted:

wow I cant believe some people here (not me) havent even made enough posts to hit the lurker limit. How unethical....



hello, mafia players of somethingawful. Im sure you're all surprised to see this. Let's play a game.... If you have not make at least ten posts in this thread by the end of the day... You will permanently be known as the losers that joined a game to not even post... and you will live your life humiliated, shamed and rejected until you will have to run and go back to worse forums like reddit or twitter... heed my warning.... no longer can you slack off work without having to dodge terrible takes or random porn from that show you hovered over for 1 second on netflix... All you have to do is make ten posts... and you will live... make your choice

Check your postcount, dude

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

Toalpaz posted:

What matters is whether we can solve this game d1. I have some flavour reasons to believe Cube is scum, and because of that I also believe Spork is scum.

Any thoughts?

Iggy did make fun of me in my flavor for having trusted Cube in Telephone Mafia (where he turned out to be scum and I vigorously defended him to the last and I still haven't vigged him for that). Did you get something similar? I don't really think we should rely too much on flavor, until proven wrong I won't assume Iggy's just naming the scumteam in our flavor for shits and giggles.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
Other than that, Toal, I'm assuming the people you list as wanting to cop are the ones you find most scummy? In theory announcing your targets sounds like a good plan, but towncleared people are just as dangerous to scum as caught scum. Gonna be honest, if I was scum I'd just nightkill you, no matter what Cube's alignment was, to avoid confirming him either way. If he wasn't my scumbro, bonus points for making him a good target the next night.

And of course that whole plan does require us to trust that you are in fact the towncop. I won't vote for you today because of that claim, but so far we only have your word that this is in fact not the mod bastardry game we were promised.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil


Okay, this is actually even worse. I checked D3 and if Toal is telling the truth about being an alignment cop, her counterpart is not, in fact, a scum rolecop, but a roleblocker. So they can just make her not cop anyway if they want to avoid the doc protecting her. This plan is bad.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
This is all of course under the assumption that this is, in fact, a D3 game and not mod bastardry.

Actually making a D3 game and selling it as mod bastardry would be kind of hilarious.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
...loving drat it, I said I wasn't going to vote Toal because of claiming cop, but one thing that bugs me a lot right now is, how would she roll cop and immediately decide this was a D3 setup instead of assuming sanity mechanics? Those seem way more likely with the whole "mod bastardry" announcement.

Know who would think this is D3? A scumteam where one of them rolled vanilla scum in a game announced as mod bastardry.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Cloacamazing! posted:

Check your postcount, dude

I said not me :cheerdoge:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Uhhh Im starting to feel like some people are playing a completely different game from me

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Toal should just paraphrase her flavor because I don't see how anyone here can talk about a case that's solely based on text in her confessional

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mycelia
Apr 28, 2013

POWERFUL FUNGAL LORD



Hello I am awake and posting

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