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having done IT at a local government were we had tons of younger interns, I can confirm that they're as helpless as older people at using a computer, like multiple people couldn't figure out how to plug in an external mouse into their laptops, it was dire, I'm glad I got fired from that job.
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mobby_6kl posted:are you trying to say this would be a bad thing? On one hand I do pine for The Internet of 2007 I'm not gonna lie. I absolutely think Zuck starting the trend (and he actually did start it) of making peoples real lives, and real names be the focal point of the online lives rather than Aliases and Interests was an absolutely incredible mistake for the internet from a cultural and social perspective, but it was all in the interest is business and accountability. I don't like the way "Online" and "Offline" have effectively merged seemlessly and I don't think thats some sort of insane boomer take.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:having done IT at a local government were we had tons of younger interns, I can confirm that they're as helpless as older people at using a computer, like multiple people couldn't figure out how to plug in an external mouse into their laptops, it was dire, I'm glad I got fired from that job. i guess knowing how to plug in a mouse wasn't a job requirement then was it
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high time that scams got cancelled in my opinion
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Ape Fist posted:On one hand I do pine for The Internet of 2007 I'm not gonna lie. I absolutely think Zuck starting the trend (and he actually did start it) of making peoples real lives, and real names be the focal point of the online lives rather than Aliases and Interests was an absolutely incredible mistake for the internet from a cultural and social perspective, but it was all in the interest is business and accountability. I don't like the way "Online" and "Offline" have effectively merged seemlessly and I don't think thats some sort of insane boomer take. While that definitely doesn't help, I posit that nothing is gonna get fixed until we get rid of the real disease of today's internet: The attention economy. It needs to become economically unviable to SEO yourself into some niche of interest and vomit ads (and affiliate fraud) all over it.
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idgi. what about "liking" the pictures implies that those people thought they were real. maybe they just enjoyed looking at the bright colours and stimulating imagery
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Aramis posted:While that definitely doesn't help, I posit that nothing is gonna get fixed until we get rid of the real disease of today's internet: The attention economy. My first instinct is to say "Thats never going away", but honestly generational changes are so weird. Zoomers who parent Gen B might atually become hyper anti-online activity and try to lecture their kids on basically only using the Internet for practical purposes and trying to stay away from it for other reasons. Millennials, the parents of Gen A, have actually already lost their kids to the attention economy. (I'm a parent to 3 young gen A boys, even outside of Youtube almost all of the popular amazon prime shows for kids their ages are basically kid-safe twitch streamers, people like Preston Plays, Ryan's World, etc.)
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i think it's an issue of selection, like for millenials during childhood, and boomers at any point, getting online required/s some degree of learning. like millenials mostly got into the internet during an era where it was harder to use, which didn't make millenials axiomatically smarter, but it meant that to be online you had to be the type of person who'd learn to navigate it. any boomer who gets into the internet at least has to learn the bare minimum to get onto the internet, which is a low barrier now, but still a barrier zoomers have nearly universally been online by default, and since the advent of social media everything online has looked and acted like a scam, making it much harder for them to tell which things are scams-with-service, and which are scams-without-service. i dunno if its that zoomers are dumber, so much as it is that more dumb zoomers are online as a percentage
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Ape Fist posted:I don't think they should, I think UX design is a really important field, and it has made the internet accessible to hundreds, perhaps billions of really stupid people. If the internet was "much harder to use these days" it would continue to be populated by obtuse vBulletin Forums and Imageboards and search engines which required metatags in the html to index. harder in the sense that a couple decades of ux practitioners have created a web wherein everything is a scam. hth
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Hammerite posted:idgi. what about "liking" the pictures implies that those people thought they were real. maybe they just enjoyed looking at the bright colours and stimulating imagery Yeah, it just looks neat!
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online scams are actually world leading in UX design because they have to be accessible to the dumbest possible people, so modern internet UX has actually been reverse engineered from scammer technology
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Guess I really am from the blessed generation. Too young to boom, too smart to zoom
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TrashMammal posted:harder in the sense that a couple decades of ux practitioners have created a web wherein everything is a scam. hth I guess not if you're a chronically online cynic whose been here for 25 years haha ye buddy never going offline, here 'till i die, hoorah 
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juggalo baby coffin posted:online scams are actually world leading in UX design because they have to be accessible to the dumbest possible people, so modern internet UX has actually been reverse engineered from scammer technology
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juggalo baby coffin posted:online scams are actually world leading in UX design because they have to be accessible to the dumbest possible people, so modern internet UX has actually been reverse engineered from scammer technology Unironically this. The line between scam and  accepted web practices is fuzzy as all hell. It's not a novel example at this point, but the myriad of subtle and blatant hoops websites jump through to fool people into accepting tracking cookies is a sight to behold.
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hci is still cool though
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lets see how your brain would do if it was 80% microplastics maybe try walking a mile in their crocs before making fun
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Younguns will never get the thrill of playing a flash game to get a ball through a hoop that launches a scam website that hijacks your mouse
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Ape Fist posted:I don't think they should, I think UX design is a really important field, and it has made the internet accessible to hundreds, perhaps billions of really stupid people. If the internet was "much harder to use these days" it would continue to be populated by obtuse vBulletin Forums and Imageboards and search engines which required metatags in the html to index. Threatening with a good time.
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I don't like the internet anymore 
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playing old school runescape by age 10 should be mandatory
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Outpost22 posted:I don't like the internet anymore Half joking but I also don't really find it as fun tbh.
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Outpost22 posted:I don't like the internet anymore the turning point was people using their real name and face
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Booty Pageant posted:playing old school runescape by age 10 should be mandatory I played so much runescape in the mid 2000s.
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Doesn't surprise me. The economy is so hosed by boomers and genx that millenials can just barely get by and gen z is absolutely hosed. It makes no surprise that they'd fall for poo poo like "invest 200$ in this rotting ape NFT and you can be a millionaire and finally move out from mum and dads basement"
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plus teenagers be horny
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Drone_Fragger posted:Doesn't surprise me. The economy is so hosed by boomers and genx that millenials can just barely get by and gen z is absolutely hosed. It makes no surprise that they'd fall for poo poo like "invest 200$ in this rotting ape NFT and you can be a millionaire and finally move out from mum and dads basement" the cool boomer has logged on
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Booty Pageant posted:playing old school runescape by age 10 should be mandatory that game is for children, it should be Ultima Online. That built character.
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Bum the Sad posted:that game is for children, it should be Ultima Online. That built character. 
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Drone_Fragger posted:Doesn't surprise me. The economy is so hosed by boomers and genx that millenials can just barely get by and gen z is absolutely hosed. It makes no surprise that they'd fall for poo poo like "invest 200$ in this rotting ape NFT and you can be a millionaire and finally move out from mum and dads basement" hahahahahaha loving NFTs what the gently caress man lol and lmao at anyone who fell for that poo poo
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get them all jobs in retail banking/finance if you want a crash course in navigating janky rear end software
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numberoneposter posted:get them all jobs in retail banking/finance if you want a crash course in navigating janky rear end software VBRUN300.DLL makes the world go 'round
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Ape Fist posted:Half joking but I also don't really find it as fun tbh. i want to use metacrawler again. i think having an actually useful and efficient search engine again that can find whatever stupid bullshit youre looking for instantly without being a shell to serve ad links alone would be revolutionary.
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XYZAB posted:i want to use metacrawler again. i think having an actually useful and efficient search engine again that can find whatever stupid bullshit youre looking for instantly without being a shell to serve ad links alone would be revolutionary. theres kagi, but you gotta pay for it
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Outpost22 posted:I don't like the internet anymore The internet and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Guess I really am from the blessed generation. Too young to boom, too smart to zoom Chill lenial
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Haven't there been several articles linked on these here forums talking about the general technical comprehension of Gen Z being pretty awful despite being constantly surrounded by technology? I swear there's been like a half dozen of various ones posted. Anyway the conclusion was usually that millennials are forever the computer touchers and janitors. There is no escape. My two fun anecdotes is, first, a couple nieces and nephews scoffing at me (like age 12-14 I think) that they know about computers and stuff but then got mad when I pointed out that locking their iPad is not the same as actually restarting it. But that's kids lol The second is I have known several people who worked happily in IT for years, and in the last 5-10 all just decided to cut most of their tech use, nuke all forms of social media, and then move out rural or to the mountains. Given the shitshow that is the internet becoming just social media and how bad that is I wonder if they were on to something 
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R.L. Stine posted:i can't think of a single smart person. it's not a generation thing everyone is just stupid. humans will die out without having done anything of merit. i don't even know the so-called 'alphabet' they make soup for that now
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Linux Pirate posted:The internet and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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