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jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Worf posted:

everybody younger, older, dumber, and smarter than me should be banned

Now we’re talking

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Gelf
Oct 1, 2005

Wake up and smell the psychosis!\

AEMINAL posted:


Downloading my first virus from limewire or kazaa age really set in stone that the internet isn't to be trusted

You just made me remember something, I haven't thought about in ~20 years!
Sister downloaded a virus from limewire which made the computer speakers randomly neigh like a horse, and intermittently make the CD drive open and close several times in a row.
Those were the days!

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Gelf posted:

You just made me remember something, I haven't thought about in ~20 years!
Sister downloaded a virus from limewire which made the computer speakers randomly neigh like a horse, and intermittently make the CD drive open and close several times in a row.
Those were the days!

lmao

Szechwan
Jun 10, 2023

R.L. Stine posted:

i can't think of a single smart person. it's not a generation thing everyone is just stupid. humans will die out without having done anything of merit. i don't even know the so-called 'alphabet'

I work in the marine sciences, and the projects and models I see people build out every day absolutely boggles my mind with how brilliant some scientists can be. But you can also talk to that same person about a topic outside of their discipline and they will be wildly stupid.

Our problem imo, is that most humans think of themselves as generalists, and therefore think they have something valid or worthwhile to say about most topics. I reality however, there is probably a single topic that you have enough knowledge of that your opinion is worth broadcasting to the masses, and even that might be a stretch for a large chunk of society. I suppose anime is technically a topic though.

Szechwan fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jan 27, 2024

Gelf
Oct 1, 2005

Wake up and smell the psychosis!\


Several days would pass, and I'd become satisfied in my teenage nerd boy confidence that I had resolved it.

As I relaxed and let my guard down, there were several occasions where I would once again be audibly slapped by a stray whinny, having silently bode its time for 48 hours+

Szechwan
Jun 10, 2023

Gelf posted:

Several days would pass, and I'd become satisfied in my teenage nerd boy confidence that I had resolved it.

As I relaxed and let my guard down, there were several occasions where I would once again be audibly slapped by a stray whinny, having silently bode its time for 48 hours+

Now this is progress

Livo
Dec 31, 2023

Gelf posted:

You just made me remember something, I haven't thought about in ~20 years!
Sister downloaded a virus from limewire which made the computer speakers randomly neigh like a horse, and intermittently make the CD drive open and close several times in a row.
Those were the days!

I remember being caught with a prank link in the school computer labs in the early 2000s. The web address opened up hundreds of pictures of Goatse, made them all full screen so closing them would just reveal another one, it downloaded a small looping .wav file of a man yelling "HEY EVERYONE, I'M LOOKING AT GAY PORNO!" it maxed out the Windows volume and played that .wav file on repeat through your speakers.

The only way to deal with it quickly was to turn off the computer, then upon rebooting it, everything was completely normal. Being the mature teen I was, I then gleefully sent the link to other people in my year. Good times.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Gelf posted:

You just made me remember something, I haven't thought about in ~20 years!
Sister downloaded a virus from limewire which made the computer speakers randomly neigh like a horse, and intermittently make the CD drive open and close several times in a row.
Those were the days!
Nobody makes viruses for the art anymore, it's all about the money now.

Secks Cauldron
Aug 26, 2006

I thought they closed that place down!
Why aren't viruses this cool anymore :mad:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
hackers got more interested in getting rich. Truly capital corrupts all it touches

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

I like how boomers and zoomers are bad and stupid and every poster itt is a beleaguered millennial under siege from either direction.
I'd be upset about this clear case of gen x erasure if it weren't for the fact that caring very much about anything is distastefully uncool

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I like how people are equating "not great at cybersecurity typically due to choosing convenience over security" as "being called dumber than millennials (and their honour must be defended)" instead of an interesting phenomena. Like sure, some posters might be saying that but when studies are done the numbers show a specific trend and that isn't a manufactured slight.

Bringing up cars is a decent analogy for once, because, like cars, computers and technology has been gradually abstracted and isolated from wanting end users or casual consumers modifying or repairing anything they have access to. Have you tried replacing a phone battery on a phone designed to look good and deliberately not be able to have it replaced?

There's similar articles and studies done about the result of abstracting to higher levels, and discouraging people from touching low level (god forbid bare metal) systems and how that does seem to be having an impact on younger people's overall technical comprehension, even amongst compsi students. And it makes a lot of sense that it would happen.

This doesn't mean (necessarily, I can't speak for every potential dumbdumb) that any of them are idiots, but it does definitely pose big questions about future capability to sustain infrastructure and even whether the basics of how computer education is taught need to be revised, because we're long past the point of someone being about to gently caress around with system files and see what it does.

Anyway, to go back on topic, millennials rule, zoomers drool.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Bad Purchase posted:

i like to refer to them as generation zed, i can tell it annoys them but not enough to say anything

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
My family got our first computer virus on a Tandy 386 PC. We never put anything in that computer that wasn't bought from the trusty Radio Shack, my dad made sure. I don't know where the virus came from, but it rode on some legitimately sold software.

(it was a virus that would like add a byte to the RAM every time a key was pressed until the computer would freeze)

haunted bong
Jun 24, 2007


Gelf posted:

You just made me remember something, I haven't thought about in ~20 years!
Sister downloaded a virus from limewire which made the computer speakers randomly neigh like a horse, and intermittently make the CD drive open and close several times in a row.
Those were the days!

no wonder everything internet related feels like it sucks now, when we peaked in its' infancy

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

syntaxfunction posted:

Have you tried replacing a phone battery on phone designed to look good and deliberately not be able to have it replaced?

yes, it’s super easy. they do it at kiosks in the mall

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

TrashMammal posted:

yes, it’s super easy. they do it at kiosks in the mall

Yeah exactly, the solution is to pay others to do it.

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

syntaxfunction posted:

Yeah exactly, the solution is to pay others to do it.

or you just use a heat gun

Gelf
Oct 1, 2005

Wake up and smell the psychosis!\

titties posted:

gen x erasure

This is as close to a self-dox I will ever risk, however I really do miss these days and the folks from this cohort who we lost from my industry during downturns and pandemic BS!

We had internally developed OMR data editing software (OG version would have been 93/94) named "EDDI" - if you clicked "Help" on the dropdown menus, rather than offering help documentation, it would bring up a photo of Eddie Murphy.

It would also occasionally show the user pictures of the beloved office cat.

Some of the underlying tech in this area has not significantly changed since the 70s.
Down in this antipodean small pond I am increasingly finding it difficult to find printers and graphic designers who understand why it needs to be done the old fashioned way.......and that I'm not just ignorant!
And I'm not even 40 yet.......

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf

syntaxfunction posted:

I like how people are equating "not great at cybersecurity typically due to choosing convenience over security" as "being called dumber than millennials (and their honour must be defended)" instead of an interesting phenomena. Like sure, some posters might be saying that but when studies are done the numbers show a specific trend and that isn't a manufactured slight.

Bringing up cars is a decent analogy for once, because, like cars, computers and technology has been gradually abstracted and isolated from wanting end users or casual consumers modifying or repairing anything they have access to. Have you tried replacing a phone battery on a phone designed to look good and deliberately not be able to have it replaced?

There's similar articles and studies done about the result of abstracting to higher levels, and discouraging people from touching low level (god forbid bare metal) systems and how that does seem to be having an impact on younger people's overall technical comprehension, even amongst compsi students. And it makes a lot of sense that it would happen.

This doesn't mean (necessarily, I can't speak for every potential dumbdumb) that any of them are idiots, but it does definitely pose big questions about future capability to sustain infrastructure and even whether the basics of how computer education is taught need to be revised, because we're long past the point of someone being about to gently caress around with system files and see what it does.

Anyway, to go back on topic, millennials rule, zoomers drool.

Ngl the copy-paste-not-knower hire I had to teach basic windows commands was a very quick learner

Maybe a big fortnite or Minecraft breach/hack is all we need to wake these thumb callused touchscreen scrollers up??

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Gelf posted:

This is as close to a self-dox I will ever risk, however I really do miss these days and the folks from this cohort who we lost from my industry during downturns and pandemic BS!

We had internally developed OMR data editing software (OG version would have been 93/94) named "EDDI" - if you clicked "Help" on the dropdown menus, rather than offering help documentation, it would bring up a photo of Eddie Murphy.

It would also occasionally show the user pictures of the beloved office cat.

Some of the underlying tech in this area has not significantly changed since the 70s.
Down in this antipodean small pond I am increasingly finding it difficult to find printers and graphic designers who understand why it needs to be done the old fashioned way.......and that I'm not just ignorant!
And I'm not even 40 yet.......

Idk what any of this means but it doesn't sound very cool and i hope it works out for you

Gelf
Oct 1, 2005

Wake up and smell the psychosis!\

titties posted:

Idk what any of this means but it doesn't sound very cool and i hope it works out for you

Thank you for extending your empathy to those without titties, titties.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

Cabal Ties posted:

One of my first experiences of online trolling was joining some goons in an online mmp browser based game, some light rpg thing.

In the game was a public chat bar and the learned goon I was playing with typed six asterisks into the chat then added “oh cool it hides your password when you type it into chat”
Cue several usernames and passwords appearing in chat suddenly as people tried the trick.

I’m sure that sorta thing is old hat these days but this was 20 years ago so I’m not sure much has actually changed. My eyes were opened that day. To a new way to loot.

hunter2

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Livo posted:

I remember being caught with a prank link in the school computer labs in the early 2000s. The web address opened up hundreds of pictures of Goatse, made them all full screen so closing them would just reveal another one, it downloaded a small looping .wav file of a man yelling "HEY EVERYONE, I'M LOOKING AT GAY PORNO!" it maxed out the Windows volume and played that .wav file on repeat through your speakers.

The only way to deal with it quickly was to turn off the computer, then upon rebooting it, everything was completely normal. Being the mature teen I was, I then gleefully sent the link to other people in my year. Good times.

Hahaha I also was immediately reminded of this and had a similar experience

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Livo posted:

I remember being caught with a prank link in the school computer labs in the early 2000s. The web address opened up hundreds of pictures of Goatse, made them all full screen so closing them would just reveal another one, it downloaded a small looping .wav file of a man yelling "HEY EVERYONE, I'M LOOKING AT GAY PORNO!" it maxed out the Windows volume and played that .wav file on repeat through your speakers.

The only way to deal with it quickly was to turn off the computer, then upon rebooting it, everything was completely normal. Being the mature teen I was, I then gleefully sent the link to other people in my year. Good times.

worksucks was the best thing ever created on the internet

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

PoPcornTG posted:

I've had to teach Gen z. They are extremely bad at computers. They don't know how to use google to find out an answer when something stops working. They just give up.

that's every generation

also i have some sympathy for people not being able to find what they want using google. it sucks poo poo these days.

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

im gonna need to know what krugers are and wtf 19-dickie-two means, thankyou

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Renreeja posted:

im gonna need to know what krugers are and wtf 19-dickie-two means, thankyou

Can't you google it?

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

probably not from my tablet ㅠㅠ

seriously though part of millenial computer literacy is having a sense for what won't come up through googling. I would guess Kruger is gonna bring up some loving company, and 19 dickie 2 is gonna bring up like a picture of somebodies yard or something

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

My first "computer" was a TI-99 and while it was an actual computer, I did nothing but play games on it.

TI-Invaders for days.

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
The difference between knowing how to maintain cars and knowing how to use computers is that while you can avoid both in your personal life, most jobs don't expect you to randomly maintain cars but do expect you to know basic computer use.

I think the issue is kids no longer learn it on their own but older generations still have the expectation that kids just naturally know computers and don't need to be taught. This was mostly the case until recently but it isn't anymore. You have to actually teach people things like what a folder is and how they can be nested now, at school, at work, somewhere. Just like older generations were taught.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

syntaxfunction posted:

This doesn't mean (necessarily, I can't speak for every potential dumbdumb) that any of them are idiots, but it does definitely pose big questions about future capability to sustain infrastructure and even whether the basics of how computer education is taught need to be revised, because we're long past the point of someone being about to gently caress around with system files and see what it does.

lmao oh my sweet summer child. no one is going to be maintaining any kind of "infrastructure" in the near future entirely regardless of what happens with computer education

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Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
Because AI will manage everything?

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