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Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

biznatchio posted:

Honestly people who try to paint is as "Jon Stewart said 'both sides are the same'" are loving idiots because that's not at all what he said. His point -- which was crystal clear if you're not drinking the loving rage koolaid -- was "we should be able to do better than two senile old men as choices; but that's what we've got -- but loving hell Trump is a horrible person".

This loving "toe the line and never say anything bad about our side's candidate" poo poo is toxic. It's toxic when the right does it and we're more than happy to point that out; but it's also sure as gently caress toxic when the left does it too.

I’m 3rd party candidate or maybe abstaining this time.

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Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

I'm old enough to remember Ross Perot's candidacy. He absolutely had a legitimate chance as 3rd party candidate until he went off the rails with bizarre accusations and his persona wore thin. Looking it up he finished with 18.9% of the vote. This was a guy who was not smooth, charismatic or anything like that. What I recall, before he got weird, was he sold himself as a straight shooter businessman focused on fiscal issues. It's not inconceivable to me that a self-funded (extremely rich, effectively) person could beat these two relics or compete with a chance to win in a future election but here we are.

E: His wikipedia entry is pretty fascinating. His best polling was 39% in the Gallup. He got weird and the wheels fell off and he still approached 20%. I was going to vote for him early on, as a young dumbass but still.

Big Ass On Fire fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Feb 22, 2024

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