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SatoshiMiwa posted:Besides being a horrible puff piece planted by Vince's lawyers which in the end doesn't make him look good it's clear that Vince isn't ready to move on and is 100% going to try and get back in wrestling next year. I 100% expect him to either start a new company or....like buy the NWA I don't think that's clear at all and think it is something Vince's people are floating to distract fromt the fact he is obviously still in communication with multiple WWE figures.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Just as a reminder, this isn't really the thread for jokes like this: I regret nothing
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MassRafTer posted:I don't think that's clear at all and think it is something Vince's people are floating to distract fromt the fact he is obviously still in communication with multiple WWE figures. I still think Vince is shadow booking everything. Everyone who he pushed before leaving is still getting pushed and all of Triple H’s infinity gauntlet people are low midcard or disappeared. Triple H and the army of writers have made the product more consistent since the script isn’t being rewritten minutes before the show but I still think Vince directs them who to push.
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MassRafTer posted:I don't think that's clear at all and think it is something Vince's people are floating to distract fromt the fact he is obviously still in communication with multiple WWE figures. yeah I can see the angle too especially since they got rid of Drew quickly it looks like to prevent people from looking closely there. Plus you know Pritchard is still there and is a Vince Flunkie
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I still think Vince is shadow booking everything. Everyone who he pushed before leaving is still getting pushed and all of Triple H’s infinity gauntlet people are low midcard or disappeared. Triple H and the army of writers have made the product more consistent since the script isn’t being rewritten minutes before the show but I still think Vince directs them who to push. I don't think he's involved on any real strategic or tactical level with WWE's business although I'm sure he has some conversations about it with company officers. I'm sure some things involving the case are coordinated.
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MassRafTer posted:I'm sure some things involving the case are coordinated. The copy of the "love letter" that got leaked by the NY Post from the McMahon team came from the internal investigation and not Vince's own devices.
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Vince wouldn't try to buy another company or start a new one because it wouldn't be The Big Leagues. He's the sort of person who would never allow himself to be anything other than the sole dictator of the biggest and most profitable company
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He's a young man in the prime of life like Tyrone Power, I think he can build it all back up from the beginning.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Vince wouldn't try to buy another company or start a new one because it wouldn't be The Big Leagues. He's the sort of person who would never allow himself to be anything other than the sole dictator of the biggest and most profitable company Both versions of the XFL would like a word.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Both versions of the XFL would like a word. I guess that's fair. He really thought at the time that he could eventually grow enough to compete with the NFL though
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Elephant Ambush posted:I guess that's fair. He really thought at the time that he could eventually grow enough to compete with the NFL though who could have guessed that it's really expensive and hard to fight the number one competitor in a market when they have a 40 year head start
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Shard posted:who could have guessed that it's really expensive and hard to fight the number one competitor in a market when they have a 40 year head start Part of the thing with the XFL was that their season started right after the super bowl so there shouldn't have been any competition But running a legit sport league is a whole lot different than running a wrestling promotion and he was obviously very bad at it
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Apr 18, 2024 16:00
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Didn't Vince try to buy the Carolina Panthers first?
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He only relaunched the XFL in the first place because Charlie Ebersol started kicking the tires about buying the name rights to launch what would later be the AAF.
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also just remembering the love of naming things extreme in the late 90s and early aughts but spelling it like xtreme. That is a drat moment in time to me.
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Shard posted:also just remembering the love of naming things extreme in the late 90s and early aughts but spelling it like xtreme. That is a drat moment in time to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDaKTTZtJZY
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Sports Entertainment Xtreme, bro.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I guess that's fair. He really thought at the time that he could eventually grow enough to compete with the NFL though I'm sure in Vince's mind he already thought the XFL was bigger than the NFL. Also, LOL at Vince thought people would be in awe of the XFL's version of the Super Bowl being called "The Million Dollar Bowl" where the winning team would split a million dollars amongst themselves.
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Vince thought he could cash in on the sports rights bubble and also catch the audience that were loudly stating they wouldn't watch the NFL anymore cause of players kneeling for the anthem/protesting racism. And neither paid off
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i never believed those people would stop watching football. It's too ingrained in our society from childhood to death
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And on top of all that the XFL games weren't even that entertaining. Bad football is bad football, it's tough to lie to yourself about that like people do bad wrestling.
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I distinctly remember his announcement of the revival having a classic conservative line in the vein of "We're not political but players aren't allowed to take a knee!!". As if it wasn't already embarrassing before that.
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And while it's a little thing it was funny making Vince admit on the stand that he himself couldn't play for the XFL because he was charged with a felony.
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Shard posted:who could have guessed that it's really expensive and hard to fight the number one competitor in a market when they have a 40 year head start Which is a lesson he should have learned from trying to launch the WBF! It's kind of amazing all the same dirty tricks that served him well in wrestling didn't work in bodybuilding.
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Beyond Bodybuilding never really having a chance to be a big mainstream thing both the NFL and the Wieder's ran way better businesses than what the territories ran when Vince went national. So not only did he not have the advantage of having a big media market behind him like we bought the WWF he also didn't have incompetent competition either
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I distinctly remember his announcement of the revival having a classic conservative line in the vein of "We're not political but players aren't allowed to take a knee!!". As if it wasn't already embarrassing before that. The original XFL's selling point was "no fair catches" because they were trying be like "yeah, those wuss returners can't just wave off the other team". There was a 5-yard halo rule, though, so even though a returner had to run with the ball, you had to give them space to catch it. It basically didn't make a difference. Oh, and when they built up for several weeks that there would be cameras in the cheerleaders' locker room.
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CellBlock posted:The original XFL's selling point was "no fair catches" because they were trying be like "yeah, those wuss returners can't just wave off the other team". There was a 5-yard halo rule, though, so even though a returner had to run with the ball, you had to give them space to catch it. It basically didn't make a difference. Still creeped out by the ESPN 30 for 30 on the XFL where Matt Vasgersian talked about Vince in his ear telling him to basically be as perverted as possible talking about the cheerleaders.
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My racist step father actually stopped watching football for two years over that garbage stuff
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CellBlock posted:The original XFL's selling point was "no fair catches" because they were trying be like "yeah, those wuss returners can't just wave off the other team". There was a 5-yard halo rule, though, so even though a returner had to run with the ball, you had to give them space to catch it. It basically didn't make a difference. Don’t forget the rugby scrum instead of kickoff that injured players before the game even started
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Luigi Thirty posted:Don’t forget the rugby scrum instead of kickoff that injured players before the game even started It wasnt a rugby scrum, they put the ball at midfield and then one guy from each team ran from like 20 yards out in opposite directions at full speed to grab it and in the first game a guy separated his shoulder doing it This was their replacement for A Coin Toss
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Alaois posted:It wasnt a rugby scrum, they put the ball at midfield and then one guy from each team ran from like 20 yards out in opposite directions at full speed to grab it and in the first game a guy separated his shoulder doing it skill issue
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Alaois posted:It wasnt a rugby scrum, they put the ball at midfield and then one guy from each team ran from like 20 yards out in opposite directions at full speed to grab it and in the first game a guy separated his shoulder doing it I mean, I too thought it was dope right up until it wasn't. In my defense, I was 16.
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TheKingslayer posted:And on top of all that the XFL games weren't even that entertaining. Bad football is bad football, it's tough to lie to yourself about that like people do bad wrestling. We have college ball for all the bad football we could ever want, and at least those guys have the excuse that they're not getting paid to be good at it. 
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Alaois posted:It wasnt a rugby scrum, they put the ball at midfield and then one guy from each team ran from like 20 yards out in opposite directions at full speed to grab it and in the first game a guy separated his shoulder doing it this kicks rear end tbh
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They should have made two guys play a game of Powerball from American Gladiators instead
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CellBlock posted:Oh, and when they built up for several weeks that there would be cameras in the cheerleaders' locker room. Which, if I remember right, was paid off with a classic Vince swerve where they finally get the cameras in there and it was Rodney Dangerfield in nothing but a bath towel
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Luigi Thirty posted:Don’t forget the rugby scrum instead of kickoff that injured players before the game even started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oaf02lcJ7g They started a football game with this?
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It wasn’t a scrum it was a two man sprint for the ball and someone was injured during the first one
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weekly font posted:It wasn’t a scrum it was a two man sprint for the ball and someone was injured during the first one I just don’t understand how one could confuse a scrum and two blokes having a sprint.
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