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joepinetree posted:The good: I feel like there are moments, like when they just clear the cliff and knock rocks off it that wouldn't have appeared in BoB or the pacific - right? Like, there is much more of an unreality to this miniseries. i'm not sayin the other two weren't dramatized or exaggerated but this feels like a step towards film instead of the pseudo-documentary style that characterized the other two. I don't know. I love the area of operation/theatre and setting! I recommend both: Bomber Boys - Fighting Back 1940 - 1945 by Patrick Bishop Fighter Boys : Saving Britain 1940 by the same author
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Oasx posted:Whenever I watch shows like this I always wish there was a guide that would show me the names and pictures of all the characters, and a dumbed-down guide to how all the various military ranks work and what the jobs are.
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blue squares posted:My Dutch grandparents got married in 1944 or 45, and her wedding dress was from paratrooper silk "Gonna send it home to Bonnie." (quoted from memory, likely wrong)
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Jerusalem posted:Hey, this guy was all over an episode!
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joepinetree posted:In terms of WW2 TV shows, if anyone is trying to scratch that itch, I'd check out World on Fire. A tad too melodramatic at times, and certainly not the best visual effects, but it does tell a decent story. I'd chip in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_War
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Cojawfee posted:New episode out. I really liked this one. It had a lot of brutal action, can't imagine what it was like to be on this mission.
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I'm only 6 minutes into e3 but had a little thought and this is the place to share them. This show is extremely my poo poo in a few ways, but aside from that unconditional love, I do think its emulating BoB and sort of merely a copy of a copy of it. Which is fine because, quite frankly, it's 2024 and everything is a copy of a copy of a copy and its all been done before better and if this is what we get then fine. Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Laughing Zealot posted:Reading the book, one story it told was of a crew that made a pact that if they went down they'd do it together. During a later mission their plane was going down and one gunner who joined after the pact was made jumped out and said that the rest had stayed on the plane because the ball gunner was stuck and they wouldn't leave him.
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I get a little confused about when the release time is, because I'm in the outer badlands of the south Pacific, but I'm assuming its in the next number of hours! excited!
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Bloody Pom posted:I believe it drops on Fridays US time, so if you're around Aus/NZ like me then it'll be on Saturday.
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Bloody Pom posted:Did the German infiltrator rat himself out by singing the US anthem like he'd rehearsed it, while the other two were obviously working from long-term memory?
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the difference in dates rule because in a depiction of ww2 you get to see a nazi get shot in the face
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Laterite posted:I don't know what it is but this show is really doing it for me.
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rewatching the pacific e01 and the alligator creek battle 36 minutes in is so dark and dimly lit its actually really effective. you can't see much, just flashes of tracers and moving bodies in the bushes. it makes me feel like masters of the air is not only sleek and slightly overcooked with its hollywood visuals, but hasn't really depicted anything in an incoherent or chaotic manner yet. everything is as clear as possible, which i guess makes sense given how unclear and confusing this theatre could potentially be to depict. so they course correct. still, the pacific is its own thing with its own editing problems, but i'm enjoying th contrast with masters of air 
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Yeah I just did a rewatch of the pacific as well and its interesting to think back on. -some really great jump edits where you go from civilian life to the horrific battlefield. -lots of great character detail and texture. lots of little, incidental moments that helped make Band of brothers good too. -favourite eps: 3 (australia), 6 (peleliu airfield), 8 (iwo jima), 9 and 10. the send off in 10 is good and bittersweet. sob. -like BoB you have some incredible acting by bit-part one shot actors. everybody from the intelligence officer to the ladies and chaps back home in america + australia. i do recall the reception was pretty mixed. in retrospect, i'm just grateful we got a pacific theatre miniseries 
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yeah i wonder if they could have leaned into the fragmentation a bit more. like, each episode has a brand new primary cast and island/setting. then you could have characters appear in the background of other eps, playing tertiary roles, maybe having some small crossovers. i guess they could save that idea for the 2039 sequel miniseries: set in the ???? theatre!
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Laterite posted:Ages ago there was a UK miniseries called Piece Of Cake, about a RAF squadron during the Battle of Britain, that I recall being pretty good, at least when I was 11-12 or however old I was when it aired in the US.
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As a kid I devoured every published journal and memoir of POW camps and I am HERE for this next ep i was racking my brain to think 'did i ever come across the two bucks in my childhood reading hmm' i cant recall Especially Colditz ones haha! this was my favourite: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26570157-padre-in-colditz the funny one about colditz ones is you had so many POWs writing diaries of the events you got to read about the same drat incidents again and again from every single angle. I feel my lens of ww2+allied airmen was first just all these books and I will forever have love for the setting. hell yeah. now as an 'adult' i'm currently reading Rat King by James Clavell (which is semiautobiographical and is about a POW camp in the East) Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, I can't help but think the Tuskegee Airmen inclusion is just a teaser for a series that'll never see the light of day or be scheduled to debut in 2051 or something.
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The cool Commonwealthers will be the kiwi boys. "75 (NZ) Squadron was engaged constantly against Germany from 1940 to VE day. The squadron flew more sorties than any other heavy bomber squadron in Bomber Command and lost the second most aircraft of Bomber Command.[11] The highest Commonwealth award for valour – the Victoria Cross – was awarded to Sgt J A Ward for climbing out onto the wing of a Wellington he was second pilot of, when on an operation over Europe, in an attempt to put out an engine fire. Although badly damaged by enemy fighters' canon shells, the aircraft managed to return to its base"
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It honestly feels like the length was shortened by covid or austarity measures at Apple tv or something. The total length of the series minus intros and 'next time' trailers has to be ---- like averagely 40 mins at episode * 9 = 6 hours. Which is basically half that of the pacific and BoB. geghhhh at least we have shogun at the moment
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^ That is true. And interesting info on the writing situation too. I mean, I could be wrong but feel I first heard about this show in like... 2010?? 2014?? it could have been released in any given year between then and now and been a completely different show depending on which year it was released.
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This miniseries should have been 14 episodes.
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The way storylines were dropped makes me feel this was scripted for viewings to tv executives.
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yeah echoing the above posts, 100% this season displays visible and explicit signs of being in development hell.
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I bet Gatwa had like, one scene, and then when he was cast as, or well received, as ol docky who they used every last .mp4 in which he appears. Hence weird cuts like the one where he is listening to the mission brief or whatever.
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I just realised we are living in a television dark age, which follows a golden age. It tries to ape but it's going to take another paradigm shift in order for tv to be good again. I'm sorry if this post sounds dramatic, it must be the influence of the masters of the air music score.
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Cool! See you all in another fourteen!
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Ahh don't make me watch BoB again for what must be literally the 40something time. Yes! Cowboy, fricking acted by Andrew Scott!! "Scott has described the working atmosphere on Band of Brothers as "awful"."😔
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Fantasy future seasons (assuming they are good haha): Eastern Front Burma Desert Rats (I know, I know there is that series)
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Well written, Jerusalem.
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He should have done it a long time ago, would have saved us all this trouble. Or something like that! god band of brothers is so good. why couldn't MotA be that good  i know pacific had mixed reception when it aired but has now been reappraised better. i wonder if, somethow, MotA will also be seen as better in years to come. ahh i'm just trying to keep a false hope alive.
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twistedmentat posted:I think they were French soldiers, who, understandably, really did not like the Germans. I rewatched Why We Fight last night and jesus christ what a well edited episode. Maybe its just that I'm in my 30s and not a teenager (like when i first would watch and rewatch BoB) or maybe its because Masters of the Air is so NOT well edited (in comparison) but yeah. There are so many moments that just breathe. Not every interaction between characters is overtly for the plot. And the way Nixon and the fancy lady have these two incredible bookmarked moments without any dialog is just mwah. Having Liebert (sp?) translate and tell the Jews they have to go back in their cages felt a little forced for the emotional moment - like,,, couldn't Winters have found anybody else to translate? And if he was the only one in the company/present that could speak German,,, that feels like an oversight considering they are now in Germany. Regardless, a beautiful episode, a fantastic simple flashforward framing device and some tremendous acting by Ron Livingston Nixon vat 69 guy
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Arc Hammer posted:At least in the context of the show (not sure how many spoke it in real life), only two members of Easy were fluent in German: Liebgott and Webster, and Webster was currently off threatening the shopkeeper while they confiscated the food.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Also, the West knew
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skooma512 posted:He was the S-2, or intelligence officer. While I was doing a fact check, I saw he became the operations officer after Market Garden.
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yip can almost quote that scene off by heart like everybody else whose seen this show a billion times. but in my mind he was just demoted to a lower ranking officer. re: eastern front, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP_Z7Li3VM4 i love this and i wish we will get a full 10 parter of the eastern front one day (impossible dream)
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