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twistedmentat posted:Yea, I know people get salty when WW2 productions act like America won the war on its own, but in a way, it kinda did, if you want to say its industrial might was the main force that won the war. This is dumb bullshit just so you know.
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Jerusalem posted:It was VERY important we spend an episode showing one of the Bucks being a giant drunken rear end in a top hat in Iceland so we would all be wowed at how cool he is. What a surprise that the Bucks stayed in to go bomb innocent people in service of imperialism in Korea and Vietnam.
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skooma512 posted:The POW camp liberation scene was pretty dumb. First, typically the guards would either just walk away once it was clear the Allied army was coming, surrender to the army, or even surrender to their own prisoners. The writing was on the wall in April 1945 and the attitude was much closer to the guys in Holland standing around at their flak guns doing nothing. Secondly, they weren't doing mass executions of western allied POWs which thirdly, they got into the machine gun tower and then didn't kill the guy there? It was probably the worst scene in the entire show. The only thing that made sense about it was an idiot American (I repeat myself) director wanting their heroic flag raising scene set to bombastic music after kicking rear end and snarling while chewing cigars or whatever dumb bullshit morons think is cool. And it was coming right off the back of the Soviet advance apparently being small groups of dudes just walking through fields while shooting in front of them, as opposed to the Red Army being by far the most well organized and effective army in the world at that time. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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Also because the '41 and '42 campaigns into Russia effectively demotorized the German army due to staggering losses of trucks.
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Cojawfee posted:It's honestly astounding that the "Every important guy in Hitler's inner circle gets their own little army they get to raise up and do stuff with" wasn't a very efficient model of running a military. Even more surprising that culling entire groups when one of the little guys fell out of favor also hindered their efforts. Wait until you hear about the 3 entirely parallel school systems they set up to ideologically train administrators and public servants. Every single thing about nazi Germany was a goddamn clown show through and through.
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twistedmentat posted:And besides the clean wehrmacht myth, the myth of the clean german citizenry also must be destroyed. Completely agreed. quote:The Nazis used terror and death to control the country, you had no idea who was snitching, so no one trusted anyone, so no one spoke out, otherwise you end up like Sophie Scholl and the other White Roses. This is just not true. The terror was reserved for the occupied countries, not Germany itself.
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feedmegin posted:What on earth are you talking about. The first concentration camps were set up in 1933, obviously for Germans. Say the wrong thing around the wrong person in Germany and you get the Big Knock on your door at 3am and end https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenstrasse_protest The German public only mass protested against the Nazis once. And as a result, the Nazis met all their demands, specifically saving a specific group of Jews from extermination, and nobody was terrorized. Very curious. Almost as if "the German public" and "the Nazis" had a hell of a lot of overlap.
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Curiously the communists, including in Germany, were very much not capable of doing or letting poo poo like that happen.
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kiminewt posted:Yet if you read the whole article it was clear that there were very special circumstances here. It allowed the regime to do poo poo that it wanted to do anyway. Citing this as an example "oh if they had just protested even a little it would've solved it". They never once, other than this one single protest, even try to protest against the Nazi government. So don't loving sit here and try to lecture about all the bad things that surely would have happened to them if they had protested. Because they didn't. And the one single time they did, they got everything they protested for with no repercussions. Now think about why they didn't protest. Edit: and lol at using the White Rose as an example excusing the Germans here. Literally the only organised resistance to the Nazis for their entire reign outside of what communists remained after the purges. Again, think about why, outside of the communists, who were the first sent to the camps, there was so little resistance. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Communists were sent to the camps in 1933 for being communist. By Christmas 1933 most were released. Some went into exile to the Soviet Union, others became part of organized resistance after the invasion of the Soviet Union. By 1935 there were fewer than 5.000 prisoners in what few camps even remained until Himmler called for a war on internal enemies, which meant communists, socialists, Jews, freemasons and criminals. To understand Nazi antisemitism it is very important to understand that in the Nazi worldview, communism and Jews were the same thing. Hence terms like Judeo-bolshevism. And the Nazis, being a reactionary movement, born literally out of the reaction to communist revolution in Germany in 1918 and 1919, were virulently anti-communist. This is what fascism being liberalism in distress means. Anyway, Himmler got approval to start his SS camps, and that started the system that is most remembered nowadays. The largest contingent of people arrested by far during this time were the homeless, the mentally ill, the unemployed and petty thieves. Jews arrested for being Jews started making up a significant portion after Kristallnacht in 1938. The people arrested weren't arrested, by and large, for actions opposing the Nazis, but for who they were. Germans protested against none of these groups being rounded up and arrested.
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