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starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal

Bicyclops posted:

Down and Dirty Duck
despite what the trolls would have you believe, i started joining in with Day of the Dead, as my posts directly indicate, and have only skipped one movie because i didn't want to pay for it, so i watched this.

I actually think Fungah's right that the animation itself being all done by one guy is sort of impressive - the art isn't bad for low budget animation! - and i think a lot of the music was okay. for how atrocious it is, it also seems a little kinder to gay people than it could have been, or at least just about as cruel to them as it is to straight people? also, i will say the duck himself seems to sort of cheerfully try to make everyone feel better about being in this hosed up cartoon, just kind of Philip J Frying their way through an absolutely terrible situation. still, as much as i have no quibbles with people drawing tits and dicks on their own time, i have some minor quibbles with this film. i'm not spoiling anything because everyone should understand what they're going to suffer through if they watch this:

  • When I was sixteen years old, for various reasons, I suddenly was in charge of a 30-person improv troupe that consisted of kids ages 12 - 18. I had to make sure that all of them were included in a show, keep them from being horny at each other (failed) and keep them from self-harm (failed). Nothing that we ever did was as aggressively unfunny as this film is. The parody of the Wizard of Oz that I wrote and directed was funnier than this.
  • GBS may actually be funnier than this movie.
  • It contains a copious amount of sexual assault.
  • gently caress you, Starberry Clock.
  • I am 100 percent sure I could do the voice acting for this film better than basically all of its voice actors.
  • The word "caca" is used often, once in a sentence with the words "Daddy" and "Grandma."
  • Most of the main characters appear to be doing a bad imitation of Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
  • None of the sex depicted is sexy. I mentioned the Pink Floyd flower loving scene earlier and that scene is somehow more pleasant than any single scene in this film.
  • The recording for the voice acting is tinny and terrible in a way that even other animation of its time is not. In fact the sound quality in general feels like a much more unpleasant, weaponized version of that "Powers of 10" video from the 70s.
  • God is dead. The world is simple, miserable, solid all the way through. There is no hope.
  • This is way after the sexual revolution and there are a ton of films that address sex, taboo sex, LGBTQA sex, etc. in a much more poignant and meaningful way, and that seems to be all the film has going for it besides style which, as discussed...
  • It being filmed and acted like its an extended part of the Sesame Street magazine format makes it disgusting, not funny. The sequence with song about sexual positions where a fleshy set of numbers inside of an rear end in a top hat/taint turn into a rudimentary dick and jump into the headless woman's pussy, reusing most of the animation, is particularly atrocious. I hate everyone, and myself, right now!
  • I have had to read The Cat and Hat Came Back approximately 20 times over the past three days, doing the same voice I did the first time that I read it, unwisely, making my throat sore because I tried to make Little Cat C sound like Danny Devito, and I would rather do it 100 more times than watch the scene detailed above once.
  • R. Crumb should have been castrated before he ever got into cartooning. Art Spiegelman still would have done his thing, it's fine. The woman without a head whose stomach is a pair of lips is definitely straight out of his playbook.
  • Seriously, gently caress you, Star!!
  • Whenever they have to pan or zoom the movement jolts in an extremely nauseating way.
  • Every character in the film is unaccountably miserable for an abstract sex "comedy."
  • It seems to believe it's some kind of deep, artistic masterpiece.
  • No amount of drugs can improve this movie, but it did make me drink a large portion of the whiskey I was gifted from work yesterday.
  • The weird Monty Python-esque way of having real photo elements is somehow also extremely, uniquely nauseating. A lot of them seem to be doing the Van Italie "mocking commercialism" thing, but in a way that was already old in the early 1960s.
  • The part of the movie I identified most was when the duck suddenly looks really, incredibly sad and says "You call this doing?" It's like he's talking to the flimmakers, begging them to reconsider their lives.
  • When the pussy tank cannon obliterated the horny police officer (after he had blown a hole in the Mexican stereotype's head and screeched slurs at him) and said "Send my balls to the museum," and then the cannon's pussy mouth misquoted Humphrey Bogart in a bad imitation of him, I hit my hand against my desk hard enough that I hurt my fingers.
  • gently caress YOU!!!

if i have to summarize how this film made me feel, one of my friends in high school was this visual artist with some real talent, who took her own life when she didn't get into harvard. it was particularly upsetting because she asked for help, was actually in the hospital when it happened, but wasn't monitored closely enough. my school reassigned her locker without erasing all the kind memorials we had written on it in indelible marker. the person who got the new locker started crying while i was walking by her, realizing what had happened, saying "They gave me the dead girl's locker! I got the dead girl's locker!" her friends sort of turned away from her and i thought about staying to help her, then walked away, because she'd said "the dead girl" instead of my friend's name. she didn't show up the next day and i was very upset about it, it felt like something i directly could have controlled by chose not to, but somehow i didn't exactly feel guilty, just a sort of crushing sense of despair about the way people treat art, and each other. that there was no way i could have known it was the wrong decision.

do not watch this movie.

this post is more psychotic than the movie

do not read this review


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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

starbarry clock posted:

this post is more psychotic than the movie

do not read this review

it would be impossible to be more psychotic than this film but as i posted, i recommend not reading my review.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

like...

Bicyclops posted:

The sequence with song about sexual positions where a fleshy set of numbers inside of an rear end in a top hat/taint turn into a rudimentary dick and jump into the headless woman's pussy, reusing most of the animation, is particularly atrocious

starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal
yeah thats fine but why did you talk about a high school suicide? it feels like sub-actualitys car door trauma posting where you try to equate a movie to a horrible life event but needlessly darker and way less funny lol


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starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal
seems a little nutso to me but when i post my review on the 4th i expect my interpretation of the film to be seen as pretty out there too


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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

starbarry clock posted:

yeah thats fine but why did you talk about a high school suicide? it feels like sub-actualitys car door trauma posting where you try to equate a movie to a horrible life event but needlessly darker and way less funny lol

okay, i feel bad (the "gently caress you" was kidding).

tbh it's the way it tries to riff on advertising. every time that it does is VERY r. Crumb, who, IMHO, built his career off of doing a schlock edgelord version of it, and this doesn't even get what HE'S trying to do, so it's like the original point of the thing is filtered through four idiots with totally different directions until the only thing left is the offensive part of it. there is a ton of this that happened in high school theater back in the aughts because that kind of "ads dehumanize people!" humor was a huge part of 1960s counterculture (the one-act plays from that era are still really big in competitions), but then there were all these original plays by high schoolers who didn't understand the context and filtered that through this weird adolescent understanding of South Park humor. i was surrounded by it everywhere, and she had some similar complaints in visual arts (in that era it was less r. crumb in her space and more people making weird sexual sculptures). i can't defend that review, though, the movie made me angry. R. Crumb and pretty much all of his werido followers make me angry. i just shouldn't have watched it.

starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal
just to make sure you do know that crumb didnt make this movie right also no offense by the gently caress yous they made me laugh


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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

that's the thing: Crumb is bad, but worst thing about him is that he had an ocean of unhinged followers who somehow didn't even understand his whole thing and made it worse. Bashki is the film example but people like Ted Rall are out there. he didn't make this but it's absolutely his fault.

herculon
Sep 7, 2018

Bicyclops posted:

i just shouldn't have watched it.

only review I need

herculon
Sep 7, 2018

Also, sorry to hear about your friend from high school

starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal

herculon posted:

Also, sorry to hear about your friend from high school


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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

thank you. i've posted about it before decades ago and people have riffed on it (my high school had a major problem with suicide, she's not the only one, the locker story is how i define despair, etc). i just forget how long i've been on these forums that people don't already know about it, lol.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

it probably should be telling that this is the movie that made me break out the story again though

tmfc
Sep 28, 2006

pretty much all of the 70s counterculture / underground animation stuff sucks and is bad and this in particular is the worst i've seen lol.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

i think there are fewer than ten movies i've seen that i didn't like and can say "this made me feel sick" about and this is one of them.

Leadthumb
Mar 24, 2006

Bicyclops posted:

i think there are fewer than ten movies i've seen that i didn't like and can say "this made me feel sick" about and this is one of them.

I got chickenpox when i was like 11 and i had to stay home from school and my dad and mom had to work so i was left alone. I had a fever and it was super hot in the house, but since my parents were gone I watched the jeff goldblum version of The Fly because they wouldn't let me and I threw up twice while watching it and now i can't watch it without feeling like i gotta hurl.




PS this post is impervious to Flames because of the flame proofer. :)

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

tmfc posted:

pretty much all of the 70s counterculture / underground animation stuff sucks and is bad and this in particular is the worst i've seen lol.

The sexual revolution produced nothing but predators lol

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
My review of Dirty Duck: my grandfather fell out of a guard tower.

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

Arrhythmia posted:

My review of Dirty Duck: my grandfather fell out of a guard tower.

lmao

Leadthumb
Mar 24, 2006

Arrhythmia posted:

My review of Dirty Duck: my grandfather fell out of a guard tower.

Lol




PS this post is impervious to Flames because of the flame proofer. :)

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Arrhythmia posted:

My review of Dirty Duck: my grandfather fell out of a guard tower.

lol

herculon
Sep 7, 2018

Arrhythmia posted:

My review of Dirty Duck: my grandfather fell out of a guard tower.

starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal
ive been convinced to post my review a little earlier than i was planning so buckle in we are going for a wild ride

so i want to start off with that i think the smutty cheap sex joke ladled part of the movie is indeed the weakest part but i also feel its a smokescreen for a brilliant narrative

its all tongue in cheek, its clear that the movie sets out to be hyper offensive from the start when a guy motorboats a flowers tits and plops a turd in the toilet then keyfucks his car

theres also the song that calls the film cheap and a great big hunk of poo poo at the outset

and its there for the entire length of the movie, this never goes away, but even though this seems over the top and unnecessary, i think it does add to the film ultimately and ill be explaining why shortly

i feel this is a journey of self-actualization for willard

he was both horny and impotent, sex crazed but resentful of who he is, strung-out from his negative self-image and feelings of worthlessness in every aspect of his life

he lives in a dingy flat, cant get his car to start, missed the bus because somebody more self-assured was asserting himself on a lady in the doorway, screwed up his chance with the girl of his dreams which he refuses to admit is anything more than his regressive libidos overt desires

pretty much, the guy loving sucks. and his approach to life blows. and he hates himself.

Enter(eventually literally) The Duck

this is where i get a little heady, because the duck is the only anthropomorphic character in the whole film. he stands out. He Means Something. and what i think the duck is... is an avatar of willards ideal way of being

the duck hangs loose, doesnt let things become a drag, goes with the flow, does everything to prop up willard from the depths of his misery, the duck is everything that willard wishes he could do but cant because of his own mental barriers that limit his success in life

and i think when you realize that, certain events make more sense

im going to skip to the ending for a moment to clear this up before i reverse course and talk more about what The Locations mean

so after not getting laid the whole film and crashing and burning, willard returns home, defeated, and regresses back into his masturbatory habits, essentially giving up

but the duck doesnt give up, and after devouring the seemingly last method of satisfaction willard can achieve in his miserable life, becomes female in the process

this is reference by a "you are what you eat" throwaway joke about eating the pussycat, but i think eating the sex doll contraption is what really locked in the duck as a girl

and if you take the duck as an extension of willards potential, willard then having sex with her, Becoming One with her, is actually willard finally loving getting it after getting his dick kicked in the entire movie

being ruled by your primal desires only sets up an unrealistic expectation of yourself, but all he really needed was to love himself to give him the confidence that he so desperately needed in his life

its a simple story of self-acceptance, but done exceedingly well through a veil of irony laden sexual, racist, homophobic verbiage and surrealistic imagery and psychedelic visuals

you just need to brush all that aside to see what the film is really trying to say, at least in my opinion

also about the locations, ill just briefly go over this since ive already written so much

the prison is how willard sees his life, the whorehouse is willard confronting the crux of his sexual inadequacies and where all the lust takes him, which is then the desert, a barren land of no direction, he feels listless there and questions what hes doing and why hes doing them and wonders if hes going crazy at this point because

without love, passion is pointless. you have to love yourself before you can love others

glad he figures that out :santahurr:

anyway thats what i think about the film, its not overly complicated or deep but it spoke to me when i watched it and i thought it was very touching, its nice to see a loser like willard figure out whats really important

also, i love the art, background images, music, some of the humor(but not all, i dont see it as a pure comedy though so that doesnt really matter as much to me), even the story as convoluted and cluttered with vulgarity and nonsense as it is

thats life baby

10/10


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Jul 9, 2016

Nice double spaced essay

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

starbarry clock posted:

ive been convinced to post my review a little earlier than i was planning so buckle in we are going for a wild ride

so i want to start off with that i think the smutty cheap sex joke ladled part of the movie is indeed the weakest part but i also feel its a smokescreen for a brilliant narrative

its all tongue in cheek, its clear that the movie sets out to be hyper offensive from the start when a guy motorboats a flowers tits and plops a turd in the toilet then keyfucks his car

theres also the song that calls the film cheap and a great big hunk of poo poo at the outset

and its there for the entire length of the movie, this never goes away, but even though this seems over the top and unnecessary, i think it does add to the film ultimately and ill be explaining why shortly

i feel this is a journey of self-actualization for willard

he was both horny and impotent, sex crazed but resentful of who he is, strung-out from his negative self-image and feelings of worthlessness in every aspect of his life

he lives in a dingy flat, cant get his car to start, missed the bus because somebody more self-assured was asserting himself on a lady in the doorway, screwed up his chance with the girl of his dreams which he refuses to admit is anything more than his regressive libidos overt desires

pretty much, the guy loving sucks. and his approach to life blows. and he hates himself.

Enter(eventually literally) The Duck

this is where i get a little heady, because the duck is the only anthropomorphic character in the whole film. he stands out. He Means Something. and what i think the duck is... is an avatar of willards ideal way of being

the duck hangs loose, doesnt let things become a drag, goes with the flow, does everything to prop up willard from the depths of his misery, the duck is everything that willard wishes he could do but cant because of his own mental barriers that limit his success in life

and i think when you realize that, certain events make more sense

im going to skip to the ending for a moment to clear this up before i reverse course and talk more about what The Locations mean

so after not getting laid the whole film and crashing and burning, willard returns home, defeated, and regresses back into his masturbatory habits, essentially giving up

but the duck doesnt give up, and after devouring the seemingly last method of satisfaction willard can achieve in his miserable life, becomes female in the process

this is reference by a "you are what you eat" throwaway joke about eating the pussycat, but i think eating the sex doll contraption is what really locked in the duck as a girl

and if you take the duck as an extension of willards potential, willard then having sex with her, Becoming One with her, is actually willard finally loving getting it after getting his dick kicked in the entire movie

being ruled by your primal desires only sets up an unrealistic expectation of yourself, but all he really needed was to love himself to give him the confidence that he so desperately needed in his life

its a simple story of self-acceptance, but done exceedingly well through a veil of irony laden sexual, racist, homophobic verbiage and surrealistic imagery and psychedelic visuals

you just need to brush all that aside to see what the film is really trying to say, at least in my opinion

also about the locations, ill just briefly go over this since ive already written so much

the prison is how willard sees his life, the whorehouse is willard confronting the crux of his sexual inadequacies and where all the lust takes him, which is then the desert, a barren land of no direction, he feels listless there and questions what hes doing and why hes doing them and wonders if hes going crazy at this point because

without love, passion is pointless. you have to love yourself before you can love others

glad he figures that out :santahurr:

anyway thats what i think about the film, its not overly complicated or deep but it spoke to me when i watched it and i thought it was very touching, its nice to see a loser like willard figure out whats really important

also, i love the art, background images, music, some of the humor(but not all, i dont see it as a pure comedy though so that doesnt really matter as much to me), even the story as convoluted and cluttered with vulgarity and nonsense as it is

thats life baby

10/10

post like this on facebook :gamefreak:

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
I think that's broadly how I felt about it (though less positive), some actually interesting/funny bits mixed in with a lot of poo poo. Also I think the only other gross out animation I've ever really watched is Ren and stimpy so it didn't feel like a played out thing

Fucker
Jan 4, 2013
didnt read the whole thing but

Bicyclops posted:

  • GBS may actually be funnier than this movie.
  • It contains a copious amount of sexual assault.
  • gently caress you, Starberry Clock.

Lol


thanks for the epic sig el spider

Fucker
Jan 4, 2013

starbarry clock posted:

yeah thats fine but why did you talk about a high school suicide? it feels like sub-actualitys car door trauma posting where you try to equate a movie to a horrible life event but needlessly darker and way less funny lol

u made two different people remember painful moments of their lives by asking them to watch this horrible movie and now ur trying to make one of them feel bad for it


thanks for the epic sig el spider

starbarry clock
Apr 23, 2012

king of teh portal

Fucker posted:

u made two different people remember painful moments of their lives by asking them to watch this horrible movie and now ur trying to make one of them feel bad for it

yeah its pretty funny that a movie about loving a duck can do that


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I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
i'm literally starting dirty duck b/c of the reviews. dancing on starberry clocks strings.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

starbarry clock posted:

ive been convinced to post my review a little earlier than i was planning so buckle in we are going for a wild ride

so i want to start off with that i think the smutty cheap sex joke ladled part of the movie is indeed the weakest part but i also feel its a smokescreen for a brilliant narrative

its all tongue in cheek, its clear that the movie sets out to be hyper offensive from the start when a guy motorboats a flowers tits and plops a turd in the toilet then keyfucks his car

theres also the song that calls the film cheap and a great big hunk of poo poo at the outset

and its there for the entire length of the movie, this never goes away, but even though this seems over the top and unnecessary, i think it does add to the film ultimately and ill be explaining why shortly

i feel this is a journey of self-actualization for willard

he was both horny and impotent, sex crazed but resentful of who he is, strung-out from his negative self-image and feelings of worthlessness in every aspect of his life

he lives in a dingy flat, cant get his car to start, missed the bus because somebody more self-assured was asserting himself on a lady in the doorway, screwed up his chance with the girl of his dreams which he refuses to admit is anything more than his regressive libidos overt desires

pretty much, the guy loving sucks. and his approach to life blows. and he hates himself.

Enter(eventually literally) The Duck

this is where i get a little heady, because the duck is the only anthropomorphic character in the whole film. he stands out. He Means Something. and what i think the duck is... is an avatar of willards ideal way of being

the duck hangs loose, doesnt let things become a drag, goes with the flow, does everything to prop up willard from the depths of his misery, the duck is everything that willard wishes he could do but cant because of his own mental barriers that limit his success in life

and i think when you realize that, certain events make more sense

im going to skip to the ending for a moment to clear this up before i reverse course and talk more about what The Locations mean

so after not getting laid the whole film and crashing and burning, willard returns home, defeated, and regresses back into his masturbatory habits, essentially giving up

but the duck doesnt give up, and after devouring the seemingly last method of satisfaction willard can achieve in his miserable life, becomes female in the process

this is reference by a "you are what you eat" throwaway joke about eating the pussycat, but i think eating the sex doll contraption is what really locked in the duck as a girl

and if you take the duck as an extension of willards potential, willard then having sex with her, Becoming One with her, is actually willard finally loving getting it after getting his dick kicked in the entire movie

being ruled by your primal desires only sets up an unrealistic expectation of yourself, but all he really needed was to love himself to give him the confidence that he so desperately needed in his life

its a simple story of self-acceptance, but done exceedingly well through a veil of irony laden sexual, racist, homophobic verbiage and surrealistic imagery and psychedelic visuals

you just need to brush all that aside to see what the film is really trying to say, at least in my opinion

also about the locations, ill just briefly go over this since ive already written so much

the prison is how willard sees his life, the whorehouse is willard confronting the crux of his sexual inadequacies and where all the lust takes him, which is then the desert, a barren land of no direction, he feels listless there and questions what hes doing and why hes doing them and wonders if hes going crazy at this point because

without love, passion is pointless. you have to love yourself before you can love others

glad he figures that out :santahurr:

anyway thats what i think about the film, its not overly complicated or deep but it spoke to me when i watched it and i thought it was very touching, its nice to see a loser like willard figure out whats really important

also, i love the art, background images, music, some of the humor(but not all, i dont see it as a pure comedy though so that doesnt really matter as much to me), even the story as convoluted and cluttered with vulgarity and nonsense as it is

thats life baby

10/10

"What a defendant on the stand would say for a slam-dunk 'not guilty by reason of insanity' plea"

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

starbarry clock posted:

i feel this is a journey of self-actualization for willard

so is the matrix and the matrix doesn't make me want to rip my own face off

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
coors no 4 @ 18 minuytes. this portrayal of a drug dealer might be considered racist today

Nostradingus
Jul 13, 2009

My pick is gonna be Howard the Duck in retaliation for this

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
coors 5 @ 38 minutes. this food bit sucks

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

I got the tude now posted:

coors no 4 @ 18 minuytes. this portrayal of a drug dealer might be considered racist today

lol

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
the pace is so glacial i get excited when a song starts lol

herculon
Sep 7, 2018

Watch it at 2x speed

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
heyy the food joke is bac k :cheers: loving kill me

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I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007
dirty duck. utterly charmless. the timing, dialogue, voice acting undermine any chance this movie had to be funny. you can see its of the creative mindset of successful cartoons today like athf, home movies, smiling friends but lacks the conversational affect necessary to make those shows effective and i feel the same way about the use of mixed media. it's just not good enough and so slowly delivered giving the movie an uneasy pace. the music was the best part by far, and there wasn't enough of it and way too much talking between. i know the design of hte protagonist was intentional but i think it's so unappealing that it undermines any point about him being milquetoast or simple. this could be called ahead of its time if you wanted to piss everyone off. do not watch this movie, it is worthy of a footnote and nothing else. also the guy who made this made the equally miserable show mike, lou, and og llo

0.5 baags of popcorn

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