USCE 2024: Four More Years. Pause.

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Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

The Mods posted:

Welcome to USCE 2024. This is for discussing current events in the united states. For current events happening elsewhere that may be related to US policy, see Israel/Palestine, Middle East, War in Ukraine, and others you find in the forum index. For more in-depth discussion of issues related to US current events, please use relevant threads when they exist. These include Climate Change, SCOTUS, 2024 GOP primary, and the newly made Electoral Politics and Political Strategies.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Feb 13, 2024

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:42

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# ? Apr 30, 2024 04:23

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Great OP

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:44

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

I like your choice of thread title.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:46

Eric Cantonese: Dec 21, 2004; You should hear my accent.

Kith posted:

tired of waiting for the mods to do it

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:47

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Crossposting from the pseudoscience thread. The bolded names are figures who also come up in my nearly-finished "To Unfrock the Charlatans" posting project on pseudoscientific racism manipulating public and scientific discourse.

Activist who led ouster of Harvard president linked to �scientific racism� journal

quote:

The rightwing activist Christopher Rufo has links to a self-styled �sociobiology magazine� that is focused on the supposed relationships between race, intelligence and criminality, and which experts have characterized as an outlet for scientific racism.

[...]

According to the newsletter�s own archives, Aporia was a March 2023 rebrand of Ideas Sleep Furiously, hitherto the personal newsletter of Briton Matthew Archer, now styled �editor in chief� of Aporia.

At that time, Aporia�s newly appointed �executive editor�, Bo Winegard, commenced his tenure with an article, titled Human Biodiversity: A Moderate�s Manifesto, in which he discussed purported �evidence that human populations vary in intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, partially because of genes�.

�Human biodiversity� gives its name to both a movement and a research paradigm that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) describes as the �latest iteration of a long tradition of scientific racism�.

Kevin Bird, a geneticist and a postdoctoral research fellow at UC Davis, said ��human biodiversity� is their euphemism for race science�, and added that �scientifically, Winegard has never done anything of note in this area�.

Winegard, a psychologist, was by his own account fired by Georgia�s Marietta College in March 2020 after a seminar he gave to a research group at the University of Alabama attracted protests and coverage in student media.

In that speech an audience member reportedly said that Winegard told his listeners that �people in colder climates, because of differences in brain size, have more propensity for cooperation�.

Winegard has continued to write in this vein on Aporia up to the present. In a 3 January article on the site titled �Yes, we should talk about race differences�, he wrote: �Thus, we must be honest about race. And that means we begin by noting that in the United States (and elsewhere in the world), different races have different average levels of intelligence as measured by IQ tests (and other measures of cognitive ability).�

As proof of this claim, Winegard cites researchers including the late Richard Lynn � a white nationalist, according to the SPLC � and the late Arthur Jensen, whom the SPLC calls �arguably the father of modern academic racism�.
[...]

Another Aporia editor, Noah Carl, has also been the subject of previous academic controversy.

Carl is a sociologist who in 2018 was stripped of a postdoctoral fellowship at Cambridge University after the college that appointed him discovered that alongside his more legitimate work in sociology, he had simultaneously been publishing scientific-racist articles in outlets notorious for peddling scientific racism.

One of the outlets Carl published in, Mankind Quarterly, was founded �to make scientific racism respectable again�, according to the writer Angela Saini. It was for decades funded by the white nationalist Pioneer Fund, and the journal has been described as a �cornerstone of the scientific racism establishment�.

Another venue, OpenPsych, is a platform established by Emil OW Kirkegaard, a self-described eugenicist who explicitly advocates �race science�, and who serves as a senior fellow at the Ulster Institute for Social Research (UISR), an organization once headed by Richard Lynn � the same researcher whose data led to Winegard�s retraction.

[...]

The full article is free.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:47

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

If all of these tax bills pass, then the cumulative changes for this tax year would be:

- $400 more refundable tax credit per child.

- The child tax credit amount will start scaling with inflation after 2025, rounded up to the nearest $100.

- You can use your current year or last year's income to determine eligibility for the child tax credit and take the lower amount.

- Small businesses can write off double the amount of depreciation through 2025.

- Renews business tax credits for research and development costs, interest payments, and capital investments from the Trump tax bill that were set to expire until 2025.

- Removes the "marriage penalty" for the SALT deduction and allows you to get double the credit if you file jointly (no changes to the actual SALT credit amount or cap) instead of needing to file your taxes separately to claim the credit for each person.

There are also provisions for housing subsidies, but those are not going to impact individual or business income taxes this year.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:47

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014; pretense is my co-pilot

wait, you can just...make threads?

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:50

Shooting Blanks: Jun 6, 2007; Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

wait, you can just...make threads?

Yes, Something Awful forum members can generally make new threads. Unless you're talking about Kith specifically, in which case I agree, it's a major oversight to allow them to make new threads.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 16:54

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

wait, you can just...make threads?

Spin the wheel, see what happens.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:01

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

Shooting Blanks posted:

Yes, Something Awful forum members can generally make new threads. Unless you're talking about Kith specifically, in which case I agree, it's a major oversight to allow them to make new threads.

agreed

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:01

Velocity Raptor: Jul 27, 2007; I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

Failed Imagineer posted:

Great OP

It contains all the info people will read before posting.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:14

Cimber: Feb 3, 2014

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

wait, you can just...make threads?

I thought i got probed for making threads!

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:14

Eric Cantonese: Dec 21, 2004; You should hear my accent.

Cimber posted:

I thought i got probed for making threads!

Maybe you get probed because you dress like a trollop.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:18

ninjahedgehog: Feb 17, 2011; It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.

This ambition in making a new thread pleases Tzeentch greatly

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:18

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

I get probed for 15 minutes every time I make a thread, probably just a coincidence though

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:19

Cimber: Feb 3, 2014

Eric Cantonese posted:

Maybe you get probed because you dress like a trollop.

Hey, whats wrong with showing a little bit of ankle and maybe even some calve?

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:20

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

Thom12255 posted:

Is this regardless of your income? And is this just shifting what is refundable and non-refundable in the $2000 available?

Yes, it is moving the refundable amount. Up to $2,000 by 2025 and then pegging it to inflation afterwards.

The total amount is still $2,000, but if you were low-income* before and didn't qualify for the non-refundable part, then you will get $400** (or slightly more if you have multiple qualifying kids and a certain amount of income).

If you were higher-income and already took advantage of the refundable and non-refundable portion, then you will get slightly less (around $300 at the end) because it would be the difference between what the non-refundable $400 was vs. getting all of that $400 back.

Edit: *If you make less than $2,500 per year, you are excluded though. That is the threshold for the benefit calculation and wasn't changed.

** This is the amount for 2025. The backdated amount that you can claim for 2023 or 2022 income is only an extra $200 this year.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 31, 2024

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:22

Professor Beetus: Apr 12, 2007; They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Good on Kith, drat mods were gonna let it roll right into Feb 2024 and still have it be USCE 2023. We're 1/12 through the year already!

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:24

TheDisreputableDog: Oct 13, 2005

We need a few thread-specific IKs or something.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:26

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

TheDisreputableDog posted:

We need a few thread-specific IKs or something.

This is America. We need to elect an Idiot President.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:27

Rappaport: Oct 2, 2013

RBA Starblade posted:

This is America. We need to elect an Idiot President.

In America, wouldn't the idiot president be chosen in smoky back rooms, not actually elected? Check mate, liberals

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:28

WarpedLichen: Aug 14, 2008

The mods were probably still work shopping their 400 word OP through committee in an attempt to contain the clusterfuck that will be this year.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:40

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

WarpedLichen posted:

The mods were probably still work shopping their 400 word OP through committee in an attempt to contain the clusterfuck that will be this year.

There Will Be Probes

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:44

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

RBA Starblade posted:

This is America. We need to elect an Idiot President.

The Idiot Electoral College - each subforum is allotted votes to vote a Idiot President for USCE.

I will vote for the person who will personally probe chain the people I don't like. In no way will this come back to haunt me.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:48

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

TheDisreputableDog posted:

We need a few thread-specific IKs or something.

thanks for volunteering

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:49

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Mooseontheloose posted:

The Idiot Electoral College - each subforum is allotted votes to vote a Idiot President for USCE.

I will vote for the person who will personally probe chain the people I don't like. In no way will this come back to haunt me.

This seems really unfair and dilutes the power of the high-population forums

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:49

lobster shirt: Jun 14, 2021

Velocity Raptor posted:

It contains all the info people will read before posting.

i didnt even read it,personally

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:49

The Ol Spicy Keychain: Jan 17, 2013; I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/kyrsten-sinema-donations-00138738

quote:

Sinema�s fundraising plummets as reelection decision deadline nears

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema�s (I-Ariz.) fundraising cratered to her lowest quarterly total yet this cycle as she stares down an April deadline to file for reelection.

The independent Arizona senator raised just $595,000 in the final three months of 2023, according to a report filed by her campaign with the Federal Election Commission late Tuesday. That is less than one-fifth of the total that her main Democratic challenger, Rep. Ruben Gallego, said his campaign raised during the same period. Her likely Republican challenger, Kari Lake, reported raising $2 million.

And Sinema spent $749,000 during that same time period, which means her cash-on-hand total dropped slightly, though still resembling an impressive sum. (Contribution refunds alone took out more than 10% of her fundraising haul.)

...

The Sinema situation is still so weird to me. She torched her career in politics for....? what exactly? With Manchin I can understand that he was playing up the "Dem but not toeing the line" for his increasingly red district.

What exactly was Kyrsten Sinema's 5D chess plan here?

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:50

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

haveblue posted:

This seems really unfair and dilutes the power of the high-population forums

That is why I hereby submit for consideration a motion to implement the 3/5ths lurker compromise.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:50

Eric Cantonese: Dec 21, 2004; You should hear my accent.

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/kyrsten-sinema-donations-00138738

The Sinema situation is still so weird to me. She torched her career in politics for....? what exactly? With Manchin I can understand that he was playing up the "Dem but not toeing the line" for his increasingly red district.

What exactly was Kyrsten Sinema's 5D chess plan here?

She was going to try to be the new McCain.

She probably disregarded lots of conventional advice on her way up and it got her a Senate seat. I think she thought her reasoning would prevail once again.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:52

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/kyrsten-sinema-donations-00138738

The Sinema situation is still so weird to me. She torched her career in politics for....? what exactly? With Manchin I can understand that he was playing up the "Dem but not toeing the line" for his increasingly red district.

What exactly was Kyrsten Sinema's 5D chess plan here?

According to her friends and campaign staff: She legitimately thought she was going to be the first female President and possibly the first independent President by riding a career as a maverick like John McCain. She kept following her heart and not listening to people all throughout her career and she went from a part-time community college teacher and green party activist to the Senate in 7 years. So, she figured she knew what she was doing.

Now, it seems like she is operating mostly out of some combination of spite, attention, and opportunity to cash out.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 17:52

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

The new Twitter/X CEO just testified that Twitter saw a 6x increase in child sexual content after Musk took over, but that they also have increased the number of accounts banned for child sexual content by 6x.

I'm guessing the complete lack of enforcement for the first 6 months when Elon fired everyone and a general vibe that it was free rein over at Twitter caused it, but it is still bonkers that pedophiles basically were 6x more comfortable (or possibly 6x more productive) with posting that content just from Elon taking over, even though Elon never said anything about X (or the federal government) being cool with it now.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:00

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Very concerning, looking into it

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:04

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The new Twitter/X CEO just testified that Twitter saw a 6x increase in child sexual content after Musk took over, but that they also have increased the number of accounts banned for child sexual content by 6x.

I'm guessing the complete lack of enforcement for the first 6 months when Elon fired everyone and a general vibe that it was free rein over at Twitter caused it, but it is still bonkers that pedophiles basically were 6x more comfortable (or possibly 6x more productive) with posting that content just from Elon taking over, even though Elon never said anything about X (or the federal government) being cool with it now.

Well it certainly would have helped if Musk�s first action at Twitter wasn�t to just arbitrarily fire 75% of the people who worked there without any regard to who was important for the site to operate

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:09

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

https://twitter.com/FFRF/status/1752719948139442193

Who had "Someone is actually held accountable for hate crimes against Satan" on their bingo card for 2024?

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:09

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Speaking of plummeting numbers:

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1752670573279293943

TL;DR: Trump is leading Biden in every swing state according to this latest round of polls from Morning Consult.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:10

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

haveblue posted:

This seems really unfair and dilutes the power of the high-population forums

Pet Island will not be ignored. Nor will the good people of Poker is Totally Rigged.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:10

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

FlamingLiberal posted:

Well it certainly would have helped if Musk�s first action at Twitter wasn�t to just arbitrarily fire 75% of the people who worked there without any regard to who was important for the site to operate

She says that under Musk, X/Twitter is doing even more to combat it and has even fewer violating posts than in 2020 and that initial hiccup was proof of their ability to handle it.

I have no idea how they are measuring it because it is testimony and they aren't providing any numbers.

Lindsay Graham has spent his entire time begging them to confirm that they will fight for Donald Trump's right to privacy and protect his DMs from law enforcement subpoenas and to protect Trump from all the false slander he sees going on about him online. Just sad.

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:11

davecrazy: Nov 25, 2004; I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/kyrsten-sinema-donations-00138738

The Sinema situation is still so weird to me. She torched her career in politics for....? what exactly? With Manchin I can understand that he was playing up the "Dem but not toeing the line" for his increasingly red district.

What exactly was Kyrsten Sinema's 5D chess plan here?

Some cushy board seats from companies she helped out along the way?

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:13

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# ? Apr 30, 2024 04:23

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

She says that under Musk, X/Twitter is doing even more to combat it and has even fewer violating posts than in 2020 and that initial hiccup was proof of their ability to handle it.

I have no idea how they are measuring it because it is testimony and they aren't providing any numbers.

Lindsay Graham has spent his entire time begging them to confirm that they will fight for Donald Trump's right to privacy and protect his DMs from law enforcement subpoenas and to protect Trump from all the false slander he sees going on about him online. Just sad.

I�m sure they also didn�t mention that Elon was happy to pay and also unban a guy who posted CSAM on Twitter last year

# ? Jan 31, 2024 18:15

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