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Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

I think murdering a dog has greatly increased her chances of being Trump's VP pick, for a variety of reasons

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Speaking of Biden's fairly rare sit-down interviews:

Biden is doing his first live sit-down interview since March 9th right now.

This was previously unannounced and just started about 6 minutes ago.

Probably not going to make the NYT happy.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1783861443244208593

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Speaking of Biden's fairly rare sit-down interviews:

Biden is doing his first live sit-down interview since March 9th right now.

This was previously unannounced and just started about 6 minutes ago.

Probably not going to make the NYT happy.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1783861443244208593

BABA BOOEY BABA BIDEN

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Really excited about NYT getting so mercilessly dunked on

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Failed Imagineer posted:

BABA BOOEY BABA BIDEN

Baba Booey indeed made it all happen.

Unclear if Biden will ride the sybian or show nips during the hour-long interview.

https://twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1783863590530818360

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Baba Booey indeed made it all happen.

Unclear if Biden will ride the sybian or show nips during the hour-long interview.

https://twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1783863590530818360

Incredible.

Pretty sure Joe wouldn't survive the Sybian

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Tiny Timbs posted:

Really excited about NYT getting so mercilessly dunked on

Sulzberger is going to stroke out

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

haveblue posted:

The difference is that Romney's story is one dumb decision that stressed out the dog for a time and Noem's story is the sort of thing you'd submit when seeking approval for a 5150 hold

The dog also got its revenge by spraying diarrhea all over Mitt's car.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

https://x.com/_waleedshahid/status/1783852614012084476

Normal advocacy, definitely not reminiscent of trying to build a blacklist; an explicit call from the ADL and others to bring the weight of the American surveillance apparatus down on teens for opposing a genocide.

luv2shit
May 15, 2023

Oil! posted:

The dog also got its revenge by spraying diarrhea all over Mitt's car.

good dog

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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selec posted:

https://x.com/_waleedshahid/status/1783852614012084476

Normal advocacy, definitely not reminiscent of trying to build a blacklist; an explicit call from the ADL and others to bring the weight of the American surveillance apparatus down on teens for opposing a genocide.

That is a letter from 3 weeks ago, before the recent protests, from when they were debating the FISA bill.

It says that they support adding privacy protections and reauthorizing the 702 program because American Jews were the targets of foreign terrorist activities. It has nothing to do with teens, Americans, or the current protests.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

That is a letter from 3 weeks ago, before the recent protests, from when they were debating the FISA bill.

It says that they support adding privacy protections and reauthorizing the 702 program because American Jews were the targets of foreign terrorist activities. It has nothing to do with teens, Americans, or the current protests.

It’s still attempting to paint protest after 10/7 as being a foreign incursion, it’s still a request that applies exactly as I’ve described it, unless you think the ADL has pivoted since the campus protests began and agree these are just kids carrying out their first amendment protected activities?

This is absolutely how they still feel and what they think should happen.

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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selec posted:

It’s still attempting to paint protest after 10/7 as being a foreign incursion, it’s still a request that applies exactly as I’ve described it, unless you think the ADL has pivoted since the campus protests began and agree these are just kids carrying out their first amendment protected activities?

This is absolutely how they still feel and what they think should happen.

It is explicitly not about US student protests, which happened after the letter was released, and they don't call for surveilling American teens as the original tweet claimed.

This is another situation where you can believe that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, the Jewish Women's Organization, and the ADL in their hearts truly want to create a blacklist to imprison American teens, but that is not factually what the tweet says and they are definitely not making an "explicit call from the ADL and others to bring the weight of the American surveillance apparatus down on teens for opposing a genocide."

Maybe they secretly do want all of that, but the tweet and that quote are factually wrong that they are explicitly calling for a mass spying program on American teens. I just feel like we need to live on the same factual universe to have a conversation about stuff.

Here is the full picture of the letter with the date:

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Apr 26, 2024

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He's not press hostile in a way that Trump is, but he is very averse to one-on-one interviews and access. He gives very few sit-down interviews, doesn't have a reporter embedded in the White House/campaign, strongly opposes leaking things to the press for stories because he wants staff to hash it out in private, and generally only addresses the press once a day at the morning gaggle + whenever they have a big press conference.

Compare that to McCain, who was beloved by the press, because he had a team of reporters allowed to just hang out on The Straight Talk Express, did tons of TV shows, leaked tons of things to favorite reporters who got scoops and access, and was available all the time on the bus.

Even Trump had Maggie Habberman basically live at the WH and be the administration's personal leak source.

I'd be willing to bet part of this is simply whiplash from the Trump years - multiple journalists have bemoaned the fact that Trump's term was basically a rollercoaster of news, with at least one notable event each week. Biden's term has been outright sedate in comparison. I am kind of curious though, did he give many interviews as a senator or a VP under Obama? Is his lack of interviews a new behavior, or a continuation of an old one?

SpeedFreek
Jan 10, 2008
And Im Lobster Jesus!
What a psycho, "I kill any creature that inconveniences me."

The dog is acting like an untrained dog and goats are going to do goat things.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Shooting Blanks posted:

I'd be willing to bet part of this is simply whiplash from the Trump years - multiple journalists have bemoaned the fact that Trump's term was basically a rollercoaster of news, with at least one notable event each week. Biden's term has been outright sedate in comparison. I am kind of curious though, did he give many interviews as a senator or a VP under Obama? Is his lack of interviews a new behavior, or a continuation of an old one?

He did not give many sit-down interviews as VP either, but the President is also a different job with different expectations than the VP.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

selec posted:

It’s still attempting to paint protest after 10/7 as being a foreign incursion, it’s still a request that applies exactly as I’ve described it, unless you think the ADL has pivoted since the campus protests began and agree these are just kids carrying out their first amendment protected activities?

This is absolutely how they still feel and what they think should happen.

the ADL has definitely shown its own rear end recently with declaring pro-palestine jews as race traitors... but you can just post them doing that. the letter is real weak.

the letter mentions 'indications of foreign involvement in domestic antisemitic incidents', which is the only thing that even vaguely supports the tweet. but the letter also applauds a '93% reduction in fisa inquiries against US persons under Biden', which is fairly contradictory to the notion that it supports a dramatic increase in domestic surveillance.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006





Obama hated Maureen Dowd too.

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8019227/obama-maureen-dowd-axelrod

I think that’s a large portion of this, nobody likes Dowd.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Obama hated Maureen Dowd too.

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8019227/obama-maureen-dowd-axelrod

I think that’s a large portion of this, nobody likes Dowd.

You have to put this in context, though.

Obama’s favorite pundit that he was always trying to impress? David Brooks.

Biden? Joe Scarborough.

We’ve been so cooked for so long.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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The first publicly available gene therapy treatment procedures in the U.S. will become available this year.

This gene therapy for a rare type of hemophilia is the second ever FDA-approved gene therapy treatment. Another gene therapy treatment for treating a specific form of sickle cell is also becoming available in 2024.

These gene therapy techniques require only a single dose to treat the disease, but how long that dose lasts is still an open question. In clinical tests it has lasted for over a year, but they will be monitoring the impact on patients for the next 15 years for study.

The process has a 60% success rate at fully curing hemophilia.

The process has a list price of $3.5 million wholesale, but it isn't clear how much it would actually cost the average patient.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1783842256060899815

quote:

US FDA approves Pfizer's gene therapy for rare bleeding disorder

April 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved Pfizer's, opens new tab gene therapy for hemophilia B on Friday, the second such therapy for the rare bleeding disorder that typically requires regular infusions of a blood-clotting protein.

People with hemophilia have a fault in a gene that regulates production of proteins called clotting factors, which can cause spontaneous as well as severe bleeding following injuries or surgery. It predominately affects males.

Pfizer's one-time therapy, branded as Beqvez, is designed to stimulate production of the protein, called factor IX (FIX), by the patient's own body instead of intravenous infusions of FIX multiple times a week or a month.

The therapy will be available by prescription to eligible patients this quarter, a company spokesperson said.

Pfizer has set a list price for Beqvez at $3.5 million in the U.S. - the same price tag as Australian drugmaker CSL Ltd's (CSL.AX), opens new tab rival gene therapy Hemgenix.

Gene therapies are often pricey, and the durability of a single-dose treatment remains an open question.

High cost, logistical issues and the prospect of potential treatment advances have so far held back adoption of the first gene therapies for hemophilia.

Nigel Key, director of the Hemophilia and Thrombosis Center at the University of North Carolina said the demand for gene therapies is limited by "how satisfied they (patients) are with their current treatment...and whether they want to dive right in, which not many do".

A single dose of Pfizer's therapy was shown to work as well as standard-of-care protein infusions after a year, with bleeding completely eliminated in 60% of patients versus 29% who received infusions.

Pfizer said it will continue to monitor for long-term durability and safety of the treatment over the course of 15 years.

Hemophilia B is estimated to affect nearly 4 in every 100,000 U.S. males, while related disorder hemophilia A is estimated to affect 12 in every 100,000 U.S. males, according to government data.

CellBlock
Oct 6, 2005

It just don't stop.



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The process has a list price of $3.5 million wholesale, but it isn't clear how much it would actually cost the average patient.

Given how American healthcare works, I'd estimate about $10M.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
are talking about protest stuff, reminder to have good tech sec. , if youre going to bring your actually personal device, atleast switch away from biometric locks to a password.

if you want to go tinhat, maybe buy a burner phone and stuff.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

CellBlock posted:

Given how American healthcare works, I'd estimate about $10M.

"First the good news, we've created a drug that can completely cure hemophilia. The bad news: it only requires a single dose."

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Speaking of Biden's fairly rare sit-down interviews:

Biden is doing his first live sit-down interview since March 9th right now.

This was previously unannounced and just started about 6 minutes ago.

Probably not going to make the NYT happy.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1783861443244208593

I wonder if this was conceived to specifically get under Trump’s skin, considering how Trump used to be a regular guest on Stern but AFAIK Stern basically trashes him on the air all the time now.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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The Biden administration released new Title IX regulations governing all public school or schools that receive federal funds in the country.

The main changes:

- Removes a Trump-era rule that required students who claimed to be raped to make themselves available to be cross examined by the person they accused.

- Previously, schools were only required to investigate sexual harassment claims that were made through a formal process and met a certain degree of criminal seriousness. Now, they will have to investigate when they are made aware regardless of whether the victim filed a formal report.

- Lifts a ban on schools investigating accusations of rape or sexual assault that happened off campus.

- Attempts to make transgender students use the bathroom of a gender they don't identify with are considered federal civil rights violations.

- Schools cannot require teachers to use the birth name or pronoun of a transgender person if they have a different identity.

- All federal requirements for sex discrimination also apply to LGBT students.


Florida says it will not comply with the new rules and could lose federal education funding.

If Florida does not comply, then they could lose the 13.9% of their annual education budget that comes from the federal government.

The rules go into effect in August and Florida has until then to make a final decision.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1783797190734852338

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Thursday his state “will not comply” with recently unveiled changes to Title IX by the Biden administration.

“Florida rejects [President Biden’s] attempt to rewrite Title IX,” DeSantis said in a video posted to the social platform X. “We will not comply, and we will fight back.”

“We are not gonna let Joe Biden try to inject men into women’s activities,” DeSantis continued. “We are not gonna let Joe Biden undermine the rights of parents, and we are not gonna let Joe Biden abuse his constitutional authority to try to impose these policies on us here in Florida.”

The Biden administration unveiled a final set of changes to Title IX last week that add protections for transgender students to the federal civil rights law on sex-based discrimination. The changes will take effect in early August.

“These final regulations build on the legacy of Title IX by clarifying that all our nation’s students can access schools that are safe, welcoming, and respect their rights,” Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said in a statement.

DeSantis has been criticized by LGBTQ advocates in the past for state laws they say harm their community, including the so-called Don’t Say Gay law that restricts discussion of LGBTQ topics in Florida public schools.

The Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the nation’s largest LGBTQ advocacy group, partnered with a Florida LGBTQ advocacy group last year to issue an advisory against traveling to Florida.

“Taken in their totality, Florida’s slate of laws and policies targeting basic freedoms and rights pose significant risk to the health and safety of many considering relocation and/or temporary travel to the state,” the HRC and Equality Florida travel advisory reads.

The Hill has reached out to the White House.

Brandon Wolf, the national press secretary for the HRC, said in an emailed statement to The Hill that “already, politicians in Florida, Louisiana, Oklahoma and elsewhere are leaping to oppose crucial protections for students in America’s schools.”

“These MAGA politicians are choosing theatrics and hateful rhetoric over protecting and furthering the needs of their state’s students,” Wolf said in the statement. “Refusing to comply with Title IX could have damaging consequences for schools, including significant loss in funding on the order of hundreds of millions of dollars — dollars that should be going to helping young people achieve academic excellence. That appears to be a sacrifice that those whose only priorities are themselves and their own political profiles are willing to make.”

Jon Harris Maurer, Equality Florida’s public policy director, also said in an emailed statement Thursday that DeSantis “cannot ignore federal protections designed to safeguard students and families, including LGBTQ students, survivors of sexual assault and harassment, and pregnant students.”

“Thousands of parents have rallied at school board meetings to oppose policies that use their children’s classrooms as political battlegrounds. We will continue to work with parents across the state to foster an environment where every student can learn and thrive.”

In an emailed statement to The Hill on Thursday, a U.S. Department of Education spokesperson said, “The Department crafted the final Title IX regulations following a rigorous process to give complete effect to the Title IX statutory guarantee that no person experiences sex discrimination in federally funded education.”

“As a condition of receiving federal funds, all federally funded schools are obligated to comply with these final regulations and we look forward to working with school communities all across the country to ensure the Title IX guarantee of nondiscrimination in school is every student’s experience.”

In a memo dated Thursday and shared with The Hill, Florida’s commissioner of education, Manny Diaz Jr., told school leaders that Florida “will fight” the changes to Title IX.

“Instead of implementing Congress’s clear directive to prevent discrimination based on biological sex, the Biden Administration maims the statute beyond recognition in an attempt to gaslight the country into believing that biological sex no longer has any meaning,” Diaz’s memo reads.

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Seems wild that in 2024 someone could unironically say, "I have my gene therapy appointment later today, the artificial intelligence that lives in my watch is setting a calendar reminder and analyzing the best route there, and I am plugging the coordinates into my self-driving car. Also, my phone with 2,600x the processing power of the computer that put a man on the moon is functionally useless as a phone and I never answer any calls."

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Well actually, Saburo Arasaka could have oh poo poo, wrong thread, sorry.

I'm interested to see how Florida resolves this, since they're allergic to raising taxes to fund education.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Seems wild that in 2024 someone could unironically say, "I have my gene therapy appointment later today, the artificial intelligence that lives in my watch is setting a calendar reminder and analyzing the best route there, and I am plugging the coordinates into my self-driving car. Also, my phone with 2,600x the processing power of the computer that put a man on the moon is functionally useless as a phone and I never answer any calls."

I’m currently playing a game on my phone that I couldn’t install on my computer 25 years ago because it wasn’t powerful enough.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The first publicly available gene therapy treatment procedures in the U.S. will become available this year.

Zolgensma has been available in the US since 2019 - for spinal muscular atrophy in infants . It costs about $2m for the single treatment.

Luxturna I think was even earlier - 2017-18, and is a retinal gene therapy that costs about $500k and prevents a form of degenerative blindness.

With these therapies, the headline price is usually what the payers end up paying.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Halloween Jack posted:

Well actually, Saburo Arasaka could have oh poo poo, wrong thread, sorry.

I'm interested to see how Florida resolves this, since they're allergic to raising taxes to fund education.

They have no state income tax and property taxes are set at the county level.

It is either going to be up to local counties to raise the money or they will just find a way to get by with 13.9% less money. Since they aren't in compliance with Title IX anymore, then they can shutdown the "money losing" sports programs.

My guess is they do a patchwork of cutting spending to public colleges, making local governments cover some of it, eliminating some non-education sports or afterschool programs, and then just eating whatever the remaining gap is with budget cuts.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Halloween Jack posted:

I'm interested to see how Florida resolves this, since they're allergic to raising taxes to fund education.

Vouchers for private education

Leon Trotsky 2012
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Failed Imagineer posted:

Zolgensma has been available in the US since 2019 - for spinal muscular atrophy in infants . It costs about $2m for the single treatment.

Luxturna I think was even earlier - 2017-18, and is a retinal gene therapy that costs about $500k and prevents a form of degenerative blindness.

With these therapies, the headline price is usually what the payers end up paying.

You are correct. I misread "the second such therapy" as being the second gene therapy, but they meant the second gene therapy specifically for this type of hemophilia.

There are no manufacturer discount programs or any insurance coverage? That would make gene therapy the one thing in American healthcare where the sticker price is the actual real price. I'm wondering who has $3.5 million in cash for out of pocket spending for treatment.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:


There are no manufacturer discount programs or insurance coverage? That would make gene therapy the one thing in American healthcare where the sticker price is the actual real price. I'm wondering who has $3.5 million in cash for out of pocket spending for treatment.

By payers I mean usually the insurer or similar, not the patient.

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Failed Imagineer posted:

By payers I mean usually the insurer or similar, not the patient.

Ah, okay. They list the wholesale price in the article, but no indication on what the average cost is for a patient. Google doesn't seem to have a good estimate either.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

You are correct. I misread "the second such therapy" as being the second gene therapy, but they meant the second gene therapy specifically for this type of hemophilia.

There are no manufacturer discount programs or any insurance coverage? That would make gene therapy the one thing in American healthcare where the sticker price is the actual real price. I'm wondering who has $3.5 million in cash for out of pocket spending for treatment.

After forking over the 3.5 mil you'll have nothing left to bleed out :smug:

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

Halloween Jack posted:

Well actually, Saburo Arasaka could have oh poo poo, wrong thread, sorry.

I'm interested to see how Florida resolves this, since they're allergic to raising taxes to fund education.

Resolves what? Cutting funding for public education is the goal

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Aztec Galactus posted:

Resolves what? Cutting funding for public education is the goal

Usually, they want to cut it to fund tax cuts or vouchers for private education. Most of them probably don't have the goal of just losing 13.9% of the money for nothing. They could accomplish that by just adding a new fire pit section of the budget where they throw in 13.9% of education funding each year.

Kagrenak
Sep 8, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Ah, okay. They list the wholesale price in the article, but no indication on what the average cost is for a patient. Google doesn't seem to have a good estimate either.

I would assume that one just immediately hits their out of pocket maximum.

A few of these gene therapies only charge if it works, which is kind of interesting.

I would be pretty interested to see the costs on this if they were operating as a non-profit and just covering costs and R&D. I work too much earlier in the process of drug discovery (not in gene therapy either) to really have a handle on the total costs of programs like this. But I do have some insight into the work involved for each patient and the overall development and these therapies are huge projects and many of these gene therapies have limited patient populations.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Kagrenak posted:

I would assume that one just immediately hits their out of pocket maximum.

A few of these gene therapies only charge if it works, which is kind of interesting.

I would be pretty interested to see the costs on this if they were operating as a non-profit and just covering costs and R&D. I work too much earlier in the process of drug discovery (not in gene therapy either) to really have a handle on the total costs of programs like this. But I do have some insight into the work involved for each patient and the overall development and these therapies are huge projects and many of these gene therapies have limited patient populations.

I work on clinical development of a therapy in the C&G space. It took 6 years after FDA approval to achieve profitability.

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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Also, to be fair to Florida, they won't lose all 13.9% of that money. Some of that federal money is for school lunches or special education that won't get taken away for being out of compliance with Title IX. It will still be somewhere around 10% of their current education budget that they could lose, though.

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