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Vahakyla posted:This is a historic victory for the _types of voters_ who generally have not gotten a say when pasty white dudes get to vote first in a primary, setting the national momentum for their candidate. Thank the gods the Dems are finally listening to what the rural voters have to say, they're so underrepresented in the American system. Surely the rural folk of South Carolina, Heart of the Confederacy, are not also pasty white dudes. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Killer robot posted:Yes, yes, they indeed are not pasty white dudes like the Democratic primary voters of New Hampshire and Iowa. . Your offhand sarcastic comment was more accurate than the point you were trying to convey. The Dems' tweet specifically says it's a victory for rural voters and claims they've been sidelined.
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haveblue posted:In the second one a subway car full of New Yorkers promise they won't tell anyone about his secret identity when Doc Ock rips his mask off during a fight Tbf, it was 2004. Youtube didn't exist yet and people generally didn't walk around with cameras in their pockets.
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Feb 8, 2024 16:55
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There's a lot of legit criticism of superhero media, but so much of it just seems to boil down to "I don't like this, stop liking it" and then backfilling in justification to get there, especially now that the MCU is finally collapsing. Wow, capeshit is about believing in yourself and fighting evil and extraordinary people doing amazing things, just like every popular story ever. Byzantine fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Feb 8, 2024 22:03
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celadon posted:I don’t understand how any of this is an issue at all, this is the reason why we have vice presidents. There’s no way that the machinery will support an arguable senile man for ‘the most powerful entity on the planet’ when we could trivially switch to the backup and move on. This isn’t an issue where we have to support a dead end bloodline cause we are operating under a monarchy, this shouldn’t even be a problem. Harris would get absolutely demolished by Trump and everybody knows it, so no matter what the truth of Biden's condition is or how bad he may get, he'll be propped up to run so long as he's still technically alive. Hell, even if he's dead they might try to hide it until the Electoral College votes.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/ErinBanco/status/1757842502118191406 Somehow, Tim Curry returned.
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BonoMan posted:Christ but why a nuke to destroy satellites? SURELY there has to be a more efficient way?? A nuclear detonation is the most efficient way to generate an electromagnetic pulse.
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Feb 14, 2024 21:16
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zoux posted:We detonated a 1.4 megaton device in orbit in the 60s to see what would happen Yeah, on Earth the atmosphere absorbs and blunts the energy pulse of a nuke going off. In space, a nuke is literally just a tiny star cooking everything in line of sight nearby.
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Feb 14, 2024 21:29
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Staluigi posted:once upon a time it feels obvious that they were setting up kamala to be that More Vital inheritor but everything between then and now showed that she was never gonna have that juice She had to drop out of the primary before any votes were cast because nobody liked her; she doesn't even have anti-juice because a juice/anti-juice reaction would generate energy
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Feb 16, 2024 22:10
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah so for 2008 your assertion seems sound. Then in 2016 against Sanders she won handily by campaigning basically the same way she did 8 years prior. I know I'm biased, but I wouldn't really consider a 55-45 split to either be winning handily or losing badly.
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Feb 17, 2024 10:28
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The Artificial Kid posted:That’s a myth being perpetuated by Testinuke stans on Twitter. They all read the same Osint analysis three years ago that conflated an implosion sphere with a human ball. In reality the CEP of a re-entry vehicle means the nuke likely won’t get within thirty metres of your scrotum. but did you consider the CBT of a re-entry vehicle
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Feb 18, 2024 00:28
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Nervous posted:At least we finally located purgatory. Not Purgatory, Cocytus. Those are the traitorous embryos.
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Feb 20, 2024 01:44
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Increased partisanship seems like the most obvious answer, but was there some magic threshold we hit where people stopped caring about specific policies after 1992? Or at least stopped giving credit to politicians for passing policies they approved of? Was there just nothing passed since the 90's that actually enthused people enough to change their opinion about someone? Obviously it's because History Ended so the perfect society had been reached.
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Feb 20, 2024 20:34
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davecrazy posted:It's super cool and good how the FBI and CIA seem to be doing jack poo poo about our government and the Republican Party in particular being infiltrated by Russian agents in a way that Joe McCarthy would be orgasmic about. They were only ever mad about the communism.
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Feb 21, 2024 04:17
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Dapper_Swindler posted:weird trad and evangelical nuts and weird /pol/ type trad incel types That's what they said, Christians.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:51
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Killer robot posted:Probably a good choice both in hindsight and the moment, but since 2016 everyone who yawned loudly at the idea of voting for the courts used it as an unearned vindication. I do think it's funny that all the people earnestly (and to be fair, correctly) arguing that Manchin could never be controlled by the executive will turn around and believe that President Girlboss would've gotten Big Mitch to approve her court picks, somehow.
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Feb 21, 2024 20:10
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Yeah, this is what an actual populist takeover of a party looks like. Very unfortunate that America is such a demonic country that the populace rallies around Donald loving Trump instead of Bernie, but them's the breaks.
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Feb 22, 2024 19:19
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:““Remember, every communist regime throughout history has tried to stamp out the churches, just like every fascist regime has tried to co-opt them and control them,” Trump told hundreds of cheering attendees at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention in Nashville.” Man, if you wrote a movie this blatant people would call you a hack.
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Feb 23, 2024 18:37
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:At this point, it seems like whoever the successor is would have to be crazy to not just keep the McConnell playbook going. Sentences spoken just before disaster.
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Feb 28, 2024 18:39
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Or there's the opposite of a great filter, where FTL tech or generation ships inherently enable races to either solve all their problems in their home system or with one or two neighbors, or they get access to, like, other galaxies and poo poo. Or all the hot races already found each other and are busy loving, but earth is cordoned off because its inhabitants are considered unfuckable. Other way around, Earth is under quarantine because we keep trying to probe everyone who visits.
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Mar 2, 2024 00:44
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Wait, I thought the primary was the time when you were supposed to express your political misgivings and attempt to steer the party towards your preferred outcomes.
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Mar 3, 2024 05:26
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Skex posted:It boggles my loving mind how much energy people who claim to be progressive/ leftist/socialist expend so much loving effort into undermining our only non-violent chance at stopping the Fash from getting full control and unhindered access to the powerful and effective war machine on the planet. You can't defeat Fascism with nonviolence. If you truly believe we are so close to a fascist takeover that this is the last line, then you must accept that violence is coming regardless.
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Mar 3, 2024 06:58
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Sounds like the Republic should've executed all the ringleaders of the treasonous plot to overthrow it, and then it wouldn't be collapsing to those exact same ringleaders. We keep letting the insurrectionists go and then being baffled when they don't give up after losing once.
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Mar 3, 2024 16:45
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Eletriarnation posted:Feels like a misreading to me. It's not "no point in making anything better, because people are mean to me regardless", it's "no point in chasing the support of people who won't give me any credit for making incremental improvements, because I won't be able to give them everything they want and I'll lose my other supporters in trying." The problem with that reading is it portrays the Democrats as Good, rather than the Lesser Evil that people constantly admit that they are. "How dare you not give me credit for only kicking three puppies today! I'm gonna stop trying!" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Uglycat posted:I think I'm gonna favor "harm reduction" over "lesser evil" until December. Certainly, I just think it's kinda cracked that people will outright say it, but then get extremely haughty at other people not full-throatedly voicing support for groups and politicians already admitted to be evil. The line used to be that you can do all your complaining during the primary so long as you vote party line in the general, but now people have been bitching about criticism being levied during the primary. Well, the line's been shifted, now you do your agitating offscreen, where nobody can see you, so the primaries aren't tainted by dissent. It kinda sounds like they don't actually want any criticism ever being directed at the Good Team, but that doesn't sound very democratic.
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haveblue posted:I am 100% confident in my prediction that Biden will either win or lose the election The foolish haveblue loses the toxx when the election ends up 269-269
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koolkal posted:Not sure if I would use her wording but that race was insane. Schiff got so much money poured into him that he spent more on promoting Garvey than Garvey spent on himself. Hey now, we need a strong (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 7, 2024 17:59
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Biden's strength is when he gets old man cranky with people who deserve it; I'm 65% sure that he won 2020 based on "C'mon man" alone. Please continue openly insulting the GOP and Israel, Mr President.
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Mar 8, 2024 17:31
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Generally, the people who show commitment to leftist principles, actual organizational skills, and the charisma to helm a protest movement all end up committing suicide with two shotgun slugs to the back of the head before burning themselves inside their cars.
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I'd be more sympathetic to the 'not immune to propaganda' statements if they weren't constantly leveled against the left in this condescending bullshit-rear end way where there's no possible way you could come to the conclusion "biden old" or "healthcare pls" or "maybe we shouldn't be rushing ammunition to israel so they can level gaza" unless, fool that you are, thou hast fallen for the traps and tricks of the Adversary and thine will ist enthralled by Trumputin. Fortunately, the clear-eyed scions of truth are here to gently explain that Politics Involves Compromise to the unenlightened children, their conclusions pure and untainted because they believe the Democrats are bad at propaganda due to years of propaganda saying the Dems are bad at propaganda.
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Eiba posted:I don't see the link between bringing up propaganda in the context of "Biden old" and the other two issues you brought up. The question of if Biden is too old is purely an issue of perception and judgement, where propaganda, one war or another, is all anyone has to go on. "Healthcare pls" and "maybe we shouldn't be rushing ammunition to Israel so they can level Gaza" are policy questions that might have some propaganda spin, but are clearly based in one's own principles. In what way is the idea that you're not immune to propaganda brought up to dismiss healthcare or arms to Israel? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I just can't imagine it as clearly. Healthcare hasn't come up recently since the dream is dead, but during this entire war it's repeatedly been an accusation in these threads that the only reason anybody could be horrified at what Israel is doing and what Biden is doing to support them is because they're a right wing plant or a fool who's trying to hurt his re-election chances. Killer robot posted:It wouldn't happen nearly so much if it wasn't people insisting they're the leftmost voices in the room constantly being absolutely snookered by the most transaprently spurious claims in the name of owning the libs. There's no set of glib catchphrases with Sarcastic Capitals that will mock that away. It's not a catchphrase, it's a quote about how the childe does not understand Biden's genius in providing aid with one hand and bombs with the other. Raenir Salazar posted:This seems very reductive, would you prefer there's no aid coming through? Politics involves compromise; and this is clearly in an multistage multipart effort to arrange for a long lasting ceasation of hostilities and continued and prompt administration of aid. You're not really thinking big picture or long term here. Dem propaganda says we're the good guys, therefore this is a hypothetical universe where Israel isn't slaughtering civilians with the bombs we give them.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I'm not sure this falls at all under "Dem propaganda" If Generic Republican President was doing exactly what Biden is doing in this exact situation, would you give them the benefit of the doubt that this is a hypothetical universe where they aren't assisting in population reduction?
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Mar 9, 2024 18:44
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Killer robot posted:Doubling down on the way you meet effort with no effort isn't really helping your case re glib catchphrases. It's also really notable how you want to steer the topic of leftist-presenting people getting suckered (chartably, suckered, because the alternative is willful deceit) into right-wing narratives that don't even advance leftist causes in theory, into a different topic you feel more comfortable defending. Good olde motte and baiiey. I know plenty of people that are harshly critical of Biden on Israel that don't go into senile pudding-brain Biden vs vital and energetic Trump scrapings from chud Facebook. I know plenty of people who backed Bernie hard in 2020 that didn't immediately fall into the idea that it's a moral imperative not to support someone as old as Biden for president because he might drop dead at any moment even if his mind is clear. There's no space here to hide behind them because the conversation about age is uncomfortable. I realize that "motte and bailey" was the fancy new term on your word-of-the-day calendar so you want to use it everywhere, but you deciding that I obviously agree with the right wing assertion that Biden is pudding-brained because I'm leftist and disagreeing with you, and therefore every time I don't rush to the defense of those statements is just further proof that I'm a perfidious deceiver who is trying to use rhetorical tricks to support Trump isn't motte-and-bailey. That's you deciding that the only reason anybody could ever argue with you on any point is because they're evil or stupid, with a little dash of all your enemies must be in league with each other and all agree on everything....which is exactly my assertion for what centerleft/liberal/Dem people have been doing, combining all criticism of Biden into a big ball they can dismiss because "the left have been completely captured by the right". I wasn't even criticizing Biden! I was criticizing the dismissal of criticism and that still somehow means I'm a secret Trump supporter whose devilish ways seek to lure innocent Democratic voters from the narrow path.
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Killer robot posted:Again, you're the one, on your own, that falsely conflated the endless harping about old senile Biden with the idea that universal healthcare is good or that arming Israel is bad, as rebuttal to people talking firmly about the first. No, I didn't. You've just made up arguments and beliefs because I'm one of the critics so therefore I must hold the same views as all the other critics, and when I reject the beliefs you think I'm supposed to have, you've got a nice little buzzword ready to go that says since I don't hold or defend that view you've decided is mine, then obviously that's proof I believe it and I'm just a coward retreating from your amazing debate skills. I don't believe the claims that Biden's senile. I've never even said anything leaning that way. I feel like I've been pretty consistent over the past few years that the Republicans are irredeemable fascists and the biggest problem with the Democrats is they aren't treating the GOP like the threat they are. But since I criticized Blue Team, you keep banging that drum because you've decided that the only reason anybody would criticize the Dems/Biden is because they're a chud or they're a fool who's been corrupted by chud propaganda. Which is exactly what I was saying keeps loving happening in the post that kicked this off, so thanks for the examples, I suppose.
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I know the wheels of government grind slowly, but is an anti-Ke$ha bill really needed in 2024?
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Levitate posted:I suspect, but without obvious hard evidence, that if you swapped "US Government" for "China's Government" in the structure of TikTok and ByteDance then a lot of people defending it would instead be pretty critical and skeptical. It's basically the harm reduction argument but coming from the other side. Yeah, it'd be great if there was an option where nobody was harvesting data, but that option doesn't exist. The options are the Chinese government stockpiling your data, or right-wing American billionaires stockpiling your data, and a lot of people see China as the less harmful of the two.
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Main Paineframe posted:Back when the left-of-center (can we just skip the whole "no true leftist" circular argument, please?) It's not a circular argument. Probably the biggest festering ulcer that troubles discussion here is the fact that leftism and liberalism are not compatible ideologies, they're only forced to be aligned because the third branch of ideology in the US is fascism. People keep running into this irreparable fault line between the schools of thought and then trying to ignore it or paper over it or browbeat it away, but it's still there, and it's at the heart of why a lot of things keep happening. It's why the ideological liberals in the government can't just be pressured into leftism, and vice-versa for the ideological leftists on the ground. And if I were a paranoid poster (which I'm not, no matter what they've been saying about me), I'd say that some of it is so the failures of the Democratic Party can be elided into the narrative of lazy leftists, like so: Main Paineframe posted:Despite the efforts of Nixon and subsequent conservative presidents, pushing the Supreme Court toward the right and chipping away at the numerous new precedents and principles established by the Warren Court proved to be quite a slow process, one which worked only because the left basically vanished from the national stage for fifty years. Fifty years ago was 1974, just before Carter got elected and started pushing the Democrats into what would become neoliberalism, then Reagan royally hosed everything and the Democrats again ran hard right after getting clobbered. But it's framed as "the left" just giving up for unspecified reasons (lazy) and letting the fascists take everything.
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The Russians don't have access to mind control devices after Yuri split off to form his own faction.
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Gotta leave the floor open for panicking about the very real and very serious Russian bone-scrambling lasers.
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Main Paineframe posted:Instead, they suggest that the US population leans conservative on social issues, and that their dislike of Biden's left-leaning social policy is enough to overcome the fact that their own personal financial situations are doing fine under Biden. A few people were commenting on 'the problem with American democracy', talking about money in campaigns, AIPAC and the like. But it really seems like the actual problem with US democracy is that the US population is mostly Nazis. Even in the deep blue regions, the instant Dem voters see an illegal immigrant or a homeless person or get told they don't have absolute authority over schoolwork, they slam hard-right and start heiling. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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