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Leon Trotsky 2012
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If all of these tax bills pass, then the cumulative changes for this tax year would be:

- $400 more refundable tax credit per child.

- The child tax credit amount will start scaling with inflation after 2025, rounded up to the nearest $100.

- You can use your current year or last year's income to determine eligibility for the child tax credit and take the lower amount.

- Small businesses can write off double the amount of depreciation through 2025.

- Renews business tax credits for research and development costs, interest payments, and capital investments from the Trump tax bill that were set to expire until 2025.

- Removes the "marriage penalty" for the SALT deduction and allows you to get double the credit if you file jointly (no changes to the actual SALT credit amount or cap) instead of needing to file your taxes separately to claim the credit for each person.

There are also provisions for housing subsidies, but those are not going to impact individual or business income taxes this year.

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Thom12255 posted:

Is this regardless of your income? And is this just shifting what is refundable and non-refundable in the $2000 available?

Yes, it is moving the refundable amount. Up to $2,000 by 2025 and then pegging it to inflation afterwards.

The total amount is still $2,000, but if you were low-income* before and didn't qualify for the non-refundable part, then you will get $400** (or slightly more if you have multiple qualifying kids and a certain amount of income).

If you were higher-income and already took advantage of the refundable and non-refundable portion, then you will get slightly less (around $300 at the end) because it would be the difference between what the non-refundable $400 was vs. getting all of that $400 back.

Edit: *If you make less than $2,500 per year, you are excluded though. That is the threshold for the benefit calculation and wasn't changed.

** This is the amount for 2025. The backdated amount that you can claim for 2023 or 2022 income is only an extra $200 this year.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 31, 2024

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haveblue posted:

This seems really unfair and dilutes the power of the high-population forums

That is why I hereby submit for consideration a motion to implement the 3/5ths lurker compromise.

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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/kyrsten-sinema-donations-00138738

The Sinema situation is still so weird to me. She torched her career in politics for....? what exactly? With Manchin I can understand that he was playing up the "Dem but not toeing the line" for his increasingly red district.

What exactly was Kyrsten Sinema's 5D chess plan here?

According to her friends and campaign staff: She legitimately thought she was going to be the first female President and possibly the first independent President by riding a career as a maverick like John McCain. She kept following her heart and not listening to people all throughout her career and she went from a part-time community college teacher and green party activist to the Senate in 7 years. So, she figured she knew what she was doing.

Now, it seems like she is operating mostly out of some combination of spite, attention, and opportunity to cash out.

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The new Twitter/X CEO just testified that Twitter saw a 6x increase in child sexual content after Musk took over, but that they also have increased the number of accounts banned for child sexual content by 6x.

I'm guessing the complete lack of enforcement for the first 6 months when Elon fired everyone and a general vibe that it was free rein over at Twitter caused it, but it is still bonkers that pedophiles basically were 6x more comfortable (or possibly 6x more productive) with posting that content just from Elon taking over, even though Elon never said anything about X (or the federal government) being cool with it now.

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Well it certainly would have helped if Musk’s first action at Twitter wasn’t to just arbitrarily fire 75% of the people who worked there without any regard to who was important for the site to operate

She says that under Musk, X/Twitter is doing even more to combat it and has even fewer violating posts than in 2020 and that initial hiccup was proof of their ability to handle it.

I have no idea how they are measuring it because it is testimony and they aren't providing any numbers.

Lindsay Graham has spent his entire time begging them to confirm that they will fight for Donald Trump's right to privacy and protect his DMs from law enforcement subpoenas and to protect Trump from all the false slander he sees going on about him online. Just sad.

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B B posted:

Speaking of plummeting numbers:

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1752670573279293943

TL;DR: Trump is leading Biden in every swing state according to this latest round of polls from Morning Consult.

It's Morning Consult. Their state polls have always been wacky.

Their own general election poll also has Biden leading nationally by 2, which is absolutely not possible if he is losing every state by 5-10.

Their Pennsylvania numbers are 10.5 points off from the two most recent other polls of PA.

https://www.politicspa.com/poll-biden-leads-trump-casey-holds-edge-on-mccormick/130944/

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 31, 2024

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The Lord of Hats posted:

I’d love to hear the full train of thought spelled out. Like, I can kind of get how she imagined the presidency thing working out, because “I’m going to be the independent maverick that gets in because I just talk so much sense and am so obviously right, and people will like that I’m not beholden to either party” isn’t exactly an uncommon delusion. But where did she see “loudly renege in my campaign promises and espoused principles” being something that worked for her prior supporters.

John McCain annoyed people in both parties. This made him popular among certain voters and the national media. He won his party's nomination for President.

She can do the same thing.

It's not especially complicated or accurate, but there was a clear logic process.

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Zapp Brannigan posted:

I don't buy that politicspa poll. There's no way McCormick is over performing Trump here. That dude lost to Mehmet loving Oz in the primary 2 years ago.

Me either. Take any polls this far out with a grain of salt. There's no way Biden is winning PA by nearly 8 points and there is no way he is losing every swing state by 5 to 10 points and winning the national popular vote by 2 at the same time. He'd have to be pulling 85% of the vote in every state he won.

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This tech hearing is getting kind of wild.

There are parents in the audience whose kids died from suicide, doing dumb thinks they saw promoted by TikTok, being groomed, kidnapped, etc. holding pictures up of their kids behind the tech CEOs.

The CEO of X/Twitter (Linda Yaccarino) just read prepared remarks that included "We need to raise the standard across the entire industry, including those companies who are not here today and were afraid to face the public." Some member of congress then said, "Let the record show that Mrs. Yaccarino initially declined to appear voluntarily and had to be summoned here via subpoena."

Mark Zuckerberg is sweating and crying after people were dogpiling him about lawsuits and asking about DOJ investigations.

Lindsay Graham and Amy Klobuchar described how Instagram did nothing after a guy was blackmailed with naked pictures of himself via a scam and then he killed himself when they told him to deal with it because it wasn't their job to police scams.

The exchange went:

quote:

Senator: What would you say to that man?

Zuckerberg: That is terrible and nobody should ever have to go through with that. I'd want to do anything to help and my heart goes out to him.

Senator: Should his son be able to sue you?

Zuckerberg: Uhh... I don't think... uhh... I think he is allowed to sue.

Senator: Well, I think he should, but he can't.

Zuckerberg: Ok.



Live link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUjv2Ky7PcM

Zuckerberg is crying after being grilled by dorks like Ted Cruz and people who are usually white bread passive backbenchers like Chris Coons.

https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1752732606464921749
https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1752739416596967934

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jan 31, 2024

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The CEO of TikTok was also just arguing that it can be difficult to tell how many of the kids that are recommended anti-Semitic or white supremacist content by their algorithm might have just wanted to see that, so it is impossible to say exactly how much responsibility they have for tens of millions of people under 25 seeing it. It's possible that tens of millions of people under 25 were trying to find Nazi videos on purpose.

The very next question he says they have extremely detailed programs and policies to prevent kids under 18 from seeing advertisements with sexual content and keep detailed tracking records to ensure it doesn't happen.

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Dick Blumenthal and Josh Hawley just asked Zuckerberg if he would apologize to the parents with dead kids sitting behind him. He actually stood up, faced them, and said:

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I’m sorry for everything that you all have been through. It’s horrible. No one should have to go through the things that your families have, have suffered, and this is why we’ve invested so much and are going to do industry-leading efforts to make sure that no one has to go through the types of things that your families have suffered.

Seems like a fairly good on-the-spot apology.

And then he had to add on:

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The existing body of scientific work has not shown a causal link between using social media and young people having worse mental health outcomes.

https://twitter.com/zamaan_qureshi/status/1752742234250674473

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Dick Blumenthal is bringing up documents from State AG lawsuits against Twitter/X about them trying to monetize kids and the content that gets exposed to minors and they just had this wild exchange:

quote:

Blumenthal: What is your opinion on these figures about children under 13 being targeted with this type of content?

Yaccarino: There aren't any 13-year olds being targeted or exposed to anything on X.

Blumenthal: How? That is not what these documents say.

Yaccarino: Children under 13 years old aren't allowed to open accounts.

Blumenthal: But they do!

Zamujasa posted:

i am not "gonna hand it to him" (zuck) because while it's nice he managed to pull an apology out of his rear end, he's only done it after how many years of enabling this poo poo with no end, and even then only at the prompting of a senator currently grilling him

You don't have to hand it to him. I was posting that because of how robotic and lovely it was that he goes out of his way to claim that there is no scientific proof that social media has any impact on children's mental health after being asked to confront people whose kids killed themselves via eating disorders or suicide prompted by things on social media.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 31, 2024

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They are bringing out subpoenaed documents where Meta estimates the value of an under 18 user at $270. If it costs more than that to manage the user or deal with problems, then it isn't worth it.

There aren't any legal implications to that, but why in the world are you writing things like that down as official policy? Do people need to regularly check that figure? Is there any scenario where writing that down leads to any outcome other than an extremely embarrassing public revelation?

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PhazonLink posted:

listening to afternoon npr, and they're talking about some new herbal supplement notdrug call Kratom, never heard of it, but im a lame straightedge nerd. also i dont live in FL. (the guest journalist are in FL)

seems kinda odd they would have a piece about some new supa danger drug before its widely/nationally known??

Kratom is not new at all. It is extremely old.

It gained popularity because it isn't illegal at the federal level and you can get an opiate-like high if you chewed a bunch of it.

I don't know the exact specifics of what NPR was talking about today, but it was a hugely popular thing to recommend in TCC on this very website way back in the early 2000's as a way to sate your pain pill cravings.

(Never take any medical advice from TCC.)

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jan 31, 2024

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Aztec Galactus posted:

The likely reason it its news in Florida its because the Tampa Bay Times did a longform investigative piece:

https://project.tampabay.com/investigations/deadly-dose/kratom-industry/

Thanks for the link. That is most likely the explanation and it is a great piece of journalism.

I knew that a bunch of people had died from Kratom, but didn't realize it was in the hundreds in just Florida.

The head of the American Kratom Association (a wild title to hold) is an actual sociopath. This is just a tiny sample of his comments:

quote:

For years, the American Kratom Association, which is the most influential kratom lobbying and advocacy group in the world, has told the public and legislatures across the country that the herb cannot be fatal, unless it’s contaminated or laced with drugs like fentanyl.

C. McClain “Mac” Haddow, the organization’s chief lobbyist, called the Florida death toll “grossly overstated.” He described it as the result of “anti-kratom propaganda.” Underlying medical conditions or other substances may be the real culprits, he said.

Haddow acknowledged that some overdose victims had dangerously high levels of kratom’s major chemical compound in their blood. But he placed the blame for deaths on consumers, saying they used the herb “irresponsibly.”

Millions of Americans take kratom, and the industry is estimated to be worth roughly $1.5 billion. Many consumers laud the herb as an effective way to treat pain, depression and addiction. In Florida, the state’s role in the opioid epidemic — including the shutdown of once-thriving pill mills and a flourishing drug treatment industry — helped create a lucrative market for kratom companies in search of customers.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jan 31, 2024

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Jaxyon posted:

So what's the end game here making this bipartisan....have the public polling turned against social media or are they playing for "censorship that helps my party"?

Probably a bit of that and the fact that lawsuits from State AGs have produced documents showing that TikTok, Meta, and X were basically allowing child porn and targeting children for addiction without regard to their mental or physical health.

It's pretty hard to publicly come out on the "we need more child porn" and "kill our children" side of a political argument.

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MixMasterMalaria posted:

You see a lot of concentrates which by most accounts have the same perils of other opiates: addiction, withdrawals, etc. I've known people who just use the herb as is and seem fine, and people who get weird and hazardously into the concentrates. There's good info in TCC.

Is the appeal specifically because it is legal at the federal level and it is an ease of acquisition situation?

Or is there something special about the high/effects that is drawing people to use incredibly high concentrate blends?

I remember when it first came on the scene like 20 years ago, but it seemed really niche. I'm guessing part of the recent uptick is the crackdown on getting easy pain pills?

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jan 31, 2024

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haveblue posted:

I thought it was always the plan to use a different sequence each time? They don’t want anyone to be First In The Nation permanently and forever (other than New Hampshire, until they change their state laws)

They said they are going to re-vote on the order each cycle, but that doesn't mean they necessarily are going to cycle out every state each primary season.

The article is just noting that the policy means they will be reviewing the order again in 2028 and the current order might not mean anything because 2024 is expected to be mostly uncontested and 2028 is an open primary, so the order for 2028 is the more significant order in practical terms.

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Finally, some policy specifics out of this election cycle that is shockingly light on policy specifics. Unfortunately, it is pretty horrible policy.

Trump has released an economic plan that combines steep tariffs with large corporate tax cuts and mass deportations. Big business allies who are usually not in favor of mass deportations or huge tariffs have caustiously signed on to the plan because Trump is promising massive corporate and high-income tax cuts to make up the difference.

Even according to economists from Trump's campaign, the plan will:

- Raise the incomes of U.S. steelworkers by about 11%, but increase unemployment among American factory workers.

- Increase overall inflation by about 1% per year, up to a 3.8% increase to the topline inflation figure over 5 years.

- Increase the costs of goods from China by at least 60% for American consumers.

- Increase the cost to consumers for all goods made outside of America by at least 10%.

- Raise pork and chicken production costs by at least 37% and cause shortages.

- Unspecified, but large spikes in the prices of fresh fruits, construction, and hotels.

- Reduce the corporate tax rate to 15%, remove the new corporate minimum tax rate, cut taxes for people with incomes over $400,000, eliminate the new stock buy-back tax, and make the 2017 Trump tax cuts permanent. This would be approximately $6 trillion in tax cuts that would almost entirely go to corporations and the top 20% of households in the U.S.

- Attempt to deport roughly 13 million people in America by targeting people who are here illegally, revoking temporary protected status for others, and conducting a nationwide review of immigrants who have overstayed their visa to search for them.

- Raise prices and impact employment an unknown amount depending on the reaction of other countries to the trade war and tariffs.

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1754892023860011122

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/01/12/trump-tax-cuts-2024/

quote:

Donald Trump is vowing sweeping changes to the nation’s economy that threaten to reignite inflation — even as the former president blames President Biden for higher prices and says he’ll bring the problem under control.

With a substantial lead in the 2024 GOP presidential primary days before the Iowa caucuses, Trump has proposed imposing unprecedented new tariffs on trillions of dollars worth of imports and deporting undocumented workers on a vast scale. Both campaign pledges risk exacerbating the price spikes that have subsided over the last year, according to liberal and conservative economists alike, in addition to some estimates cited by the former president’s own advisers. If he’s elected, Trump could implement these policies at least in part without needing Congress to act.

Trump’s enormously disruptive policy proposals come as he appears likely to jettison the more cautious and establishment-friendly economic advisers that restrained his most nationalist and confrontational impulses during his first term. These advisers — such as former treasury secretary Steven T. Mnuchin — now find themselves either at war with Trump or receding from his inner circle, potentially empowering more fringe voices.

As president, Trump turned on his own pick to lead the Federal Reserve, Jerome H. Powell. If he returns to the White House, Trump would likely move to replace Powell with an appointee more inclined to lower rates and follow Trump’s whims — which Powell refused to do — according to Fed experts, economists and other people in Trump’s orbit. It’s not clear how such an intervention at the central bank might affect financial markets or the economy; the Fed is tasked with controlling inflation without taking politics into account, but an all-out barrage from Trump may test the central bank.

“I worry there’s not going to be an effective policy check on him. The circle has narrowed so much that in the second term he may hear no dissent, even at the outset,” said Doug Holtz-Eakin, a GOP analyst who served as chief economic policy adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). “And if he really does the trade and immigration proposals he’s discussing, it would be a very big deal — you hope that by then inflation would be under control and you wouldn’t get a wage-price spiral, but there’s no guarantee.”

Trump’s exact intentions on the economy remain hard to predict, in part because his trade proposals as stated would likely prove so unwieldy and painful for U.S. consumers that even some of the former president’s allies say they are unlikely to ever fully go into effect. But they fit a broader pattern of Trump seeking to harness sweeping new executive powers to pursue what critics have termed an “authoritarian” agenda — even as attacking Biden over inflation remains one of his central campaign messages.

If elected, Trump would inherit an economy that has proved surprisingly strong but still remains vulnerable to new shocks. Although voters give the former president higher marks for his economic stewardship than they do Biden, many analysts fear that Trump’s approach — intensifying the impulsive and chaotic management of his first term — could further unsettle an economy still finding its footing after the disruptions of the pandemic.

“The problem is what he’s proposing is so far outside historic experience there’s not even a decent set of estimates about it,” said Michael Strain, an economist at the American Enterprise Institute, a center-right think tank. “I saw some clip where Trump was attacking Biden about inflation, and it’s like, ‘You’re going to massively restrict the supply of workers and do a 10 percent across the board tariff?’ On the economics, that’s completely insane.”

The Trump campaign referred comment to Kevin Hassett, who served as chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under Trump but is not an adviser to the campaign. Hassett argued that Trump’s other policy proposals — including laxer energy regulation and extending the 2017 GOP tax cuts — would reduce inflation by more than his other policies would increase it. (Many economists believe tax cuts increase inflation, by boosting demand.)

“The three biggest effects on inflation from the proposals on the table are from tax cuts, deregulation, and expanded energy production, followed closely by big reductions in government spending. Those four effects would dwarf the effects of any other policy proposals,” Hassett said. Hassett said it is common for politicians’ policy proposals to have varied effects on inflation. “Every presidential candidate in my adult life has put forward a portfolio of policies, and the portfolio of policies won’t necessarily all have the same sign effect on any variable.”

Global trade war could raise prices

During his first term, Trump declared that trade wars “are good, and easy to win,” and ran his presidency accordingly. He imposed tariffs on more than $300 billion worth of imports, leading to retaliatory measures from China, Canada, Mexico and numerous other countries that the former president decided to fight. The Tax Foundation, a conservative think tank that opposes tariffs, found the Trump tariffs — most of which were kept in place by the Biden administration — reduced long-term wages by 0.14 percent and employment by 166,000 jobs.

Despite their destabilizing effects, Trump has vowed to massively ratchet up these trade battles in his second term. He has floated imposing a blanket 10 percent tariff on all imports to the United States, in what he characterizes as a “ring” around the U.S. economy. That would amount to tariffs on more than $3 trillion in annual imports — a more than ninefold increase in the volume of trade hit by tariffs from his first term. Trump also pushes a separate proposal to impose tariffs that would automatically match U.S. import duties to foreign countries’ tariffs on products from the United States, which would also amount to a sharp spike in trade barriers.

Both proposals would almost certainly lead to a major expansion of trade hostilities, which would mean not only higher prices for U.S. consumers but also make it harder for domestic producers to sell into foreign markets.

“When companies come in and they dump their products in the United States, they should pay, automatically, let’s say a 10 percent tax,” Trump said on Fox Business this summer. “I do like the 10 percent for everybody.”

He has continued to cite his tariff plans multiple times while campaigning, telling a crowd in New Hampshire last month: “We will impose stiff penalties on China and all other nations as they abuse us.”

Even some Trump allies recognize such moves would likely raise inflation.

Casey B. Mulligan, who served as chief economist for Trump’s White House Council of Economic Advisers, estimated in an interview that Trump’s 10 percent import tariff proposal would add an extra percentage point to inflation, or a quarter percent a year if spread out over four years. The Federal Reserve has been trying to wrestle inflation down from four-decade highs to the more normal level of 2 percent. While the Fed has made significant progress, they are far from declaring victory, and routinely caution that any number of threats could upend their fight. (A new policy that adds a quarter-point per year would be one such threat.)

Some estimates are even higher. Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a Washington-based think tank, estimates that Trump’s 10 percent tariff plan would increase the overall consumer price index by two to three percentage points, which would amount to roughly doubling the current pace of inflation.

Mulligan, who is a member of the board of academic advisers for the America First Policy Institute, echoed Trump’s arguments that tariffs are a useful economic tool to force China to change its behavior without having to resort to military measures.

The Trump campaign referred comment to Robert E. Lighthizer, who served as Trump’s trade ambassador.

“The economists’ ideas don’t bear out in the real world,” Lighthizer said. “Sometimes it has literally zero effect and sometimes it has a small effect.”

Lighthizer pointed to the estimates by the Coalition for a Prosperous America, a group that supports higher tariffs. That group found that a 10 percent universal tariff would increase inflation-adjusted incomes by 11 percent but also increase inflation by 3.8 percent over about five years.

During his first term, Trump’s protectionist impulses were restrained in part by some Republicans in Congress who have since retired. “I certainly feel like our wing is ascendant,” said Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), a leader of the upper chamber’s Trump backers. Vance replaced retired Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), once one of Congress’s strongest free trade proponents. “I think that’s because the substance [suggests] that people like Bob Lighthizer were right all along, and people like Trump were right all along.”

Deportations may exacerbate inflation

Speaking to a crowd in Iowa in September, Trump said that he is planning “the largest domestic deportation operation” in U.S. history if elected again. The former president has talked of wanting to forcibly deport millions of immigrants, echoing a 1950s enforcement campaign targeting Mexican field workers.

In his first administration, such impulses were often checked by pro-business figures who feared the impact of Trump’s immigration restrictions on the workforce. But Gary Cohn, who had been president of Goldman Sachs before helming Trump’s White House National Economic Council, fell out with the president early in the administration. Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law who sometimes had a moderating force on his economic policies, has thus far played little role in the 2024 campaign. Mnuchin, Trump’s treasury secretary, is not seen as likely to return to Trump’s Cabinet, after he explored using the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office following the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, according to three former Trump administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive dynamics.

“One of the major differences between now and 2017 is in 2017 he pulled together a coalition that included most of the folks on the right and the business community from New York, which acted as a moderating voice,” said Paul Winfree, an economist who served as director of budget policy during the Trump administration. “A lot of the folks who acted as moderating influences have distanced themselves from Trump.”

This change in personnel could leave Trump free to pursue a mass deportation campaign regardless of its impact on businesses. Although economists are divided on whether restricting immigration would meaningfully increase inflation overall, many economists say mass deportations — beyond their devastating effect on individual lives and communities — would also almost certainly cause price spikes in particular sectors. Labor shortages would quickly emerge in residential construction, housekeeping, and agricultural work, particularly for fruit and other laborious forms of farm work, said Posen, the PIIE economist, driving up costs for consumers.


“It would lead to very sudden spikes in prices of key goods like fresh produce, hotel rooms, and housing repairs,” Posen said.

More than 37 percent of meat and poultry workers are foreign-born, according to estimates by the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning think tank. Mass deportations could have a devastating impact for businesses in states like Iowa, though Trump is expected to win there handily both in the caucuses and in a general election.

“This would severely impact the ability of the meat and poultry industry to be able to produce the amount of meat and poultry we’re used to in this country. We’d have shortages, which would increase prices,” said Debbie Berkowitz, a fellow at the Kalmanovitz Initiative for Labor and the Working Poor at Georgetown University.


Trump has demonstrated disdain for the central bank

The sun was shining over the Grand Teton mountains when Powell took to the podium in August 2019 to deliver his most important speech of the year. At the closely watched policy forum known to Fed watchers simply as “Jackson Hole,” Powell said the economy was in a “favorable” place but was susceptible to “significant risks,” especially from the ongoing trade fight between the United States and China.

That’s when Trump fired off a scathing tweet: “My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powell, or Chairman Xi?” The jab — which followed months of Trump practically demanding the Fed to lower interest rates — sent financial markets tanking.

Even now, the story is a cautionary tale about what Trump’s reemergence could mean for the central bank. Officials have been laser-focused on wrestling inflation down to normal levels, staying steadfast in their pledge to bring down inflation at any cost. Policymakers routinely say that letting prices keep increasing rapidly would make households and businesses worse off in the long run than raising interest rates has.

As long as Powell remains chair, the Fed is almost certain to remain impervious to political interference. “Jay Powell would get a few more wrinkles on his face,” said David Beckworth, senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. “But at the end of the day, Jay Powell would stick to the mandate Congress has given them.”

But a second Trump term could still at least test the central bank’s independence. Trump is unlikely to reappoint Powell to a third term when his current one expires in 2026 (Biden appointed Powell to a second term that began in 2022). Trump might even try to fire the Fed chair before then — something that has never been tried in the central bank’s history — and replace him with someone who more closely follows the White House’s demands. The legality of such a move is untested.

Either way, Trump would almost certainly choose a new Fed chair to follow Powell. And if elected again, Trump would also have the chance to appoint up to three other leadership positions for the Fed board.

If Democrats retain control of the Senate, they could prevent Trump from stacking the Fed with his acolytes, as they did in rejecting Trump’s 2019 attempt to elevate the pizza magnate Herman Cain to the board. But if Republicans take the majority, Trump could remake the central bank, particularly because some of the GOP officials who resisted his previous picks, such as former senator Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.), have since retired.

“The most successful economic institution in this country is the Fed; we have just seen how their independence and their credibility can work economic miracles,” said Jason Furman, a Harvard economist who served in the Obama administration and stressed Trump could only influence the Fed if he fired or replaced Powell. “If Trump undermined their independence and their credibility — which he has proven he is quite likely to try to do — that could make it very difficult to keep inflation under control.”

Judy Shelton — one of Trump’s five failed Fed nominees — said the Fed’s plans to cut rates again this year after raising them through 2022 and 2023 validate Trump’s belief that the economy can sustain low rates, low unemployment and low inflation all at the same time. (Typically, economists assume that low unemployment drives inflation up as wages rise, requiring higher rates that curb demand.)

“I really think that it vindicates the Trump administration’s position that low unemployment and economic growth — so long that it’s productive — are not inherently inflationary,” Shelton said. “I think what Trump is mentioning these days is he’s concerned both about inflation and about the high cost of borrowing for individual citizens.”

But other economists caution that the Federal Reserve is supposed to be independent for a reason: The central bank must be willing to tackle inflation even if it causes short-term political pain for the nation’s elected leaders. Trump has demonstrated his priority is preserving his own power, regardless of the costs to the Federal Reserve’s credibility.

“Trump has made it very clear he wants to literally run everything, and he doesn’t give a drat about central bank independence,” said Dean Baker, a White House ally and economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a left-leaning think tank. “If Trump is in the White House, the Fed is very likely to not have a free hand to fight inflation if they need to.”

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The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration has a new study out showing that nearly all automobile deaths in the United States are preventable.

The single biggest contributors to deaths (of car passengers or drivers and not counting pedestrians) are:

1) People not wearing seatbelts.
2) People speeding far in excess of the posted limits.
3) People driving while distracted by a cell phone or intoxicated.

- 91.6% of Americans use a seat belt every time they drive.

- In 2022, 50% of all automobile fatalities where the driver or passenger died came from the 8.4% who were not wearing a seatbelt.

- Buckling up is actually more effective in preventing deaths while in a light SUV or truck than in a sedan.

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Overview

One of the safest choices drivers and passengers can make is to buckle up. Many Americans understand the lifesaving value of the seat belt – the national use rate was at 91.6% in 2022. Seat belt use in passenger vehicles saved an estimated 14,955 lives in 2017. Understand the potentially fatal consequences of not wearing a seat belt and learn what you can do to make sure you and your family are properly buckled up every time.

Consequences

50% PERCENTAGE OF PASSENGER VEHICLE OCCUPANTS KILLED IN 2021 WHO WERE UNRESTRAINED

In 2021, 26,325 passenger vehicle occupants were killed. About 50% of those killed were not buckled (based on known seat belt use.)

Seat belts saved an estimated 14,955 lives and could have saved an additional 2,549 people if they had been wearing seat belts, in 2017 alone.

The consequences of not wearing, or improperly wearing, a seat belt are clear:

1. Buckling up helps keep you safe and secure inside your vehicle, whereas not buckling up can result in being totally ejected from the vehicle in a crash, which is almost always deadly.

2. Air bags are not enough to protect you; in fact, the force of an air bag can seriously injure or even kill you if you’re not buckled up.

3. Improperly wearing a seat belt, such as putting the strap below your arm, puts you and your children at risk in a crash.

The benefits of buckling up are equally clear:

If you buckle up in the front seat of a passenger car, you can reduce your risk of:

Fatal injury by 45% (Kahane, 2015)
Moderate to critical injury by 50%
If you buckle up in a light truck, you can reduce your risk of:
Fatal injury by 60% (Kahane, 2015)
Moderate to critical injury by 65% (NHTSA, 1984)

Buckling up is the single most effective thing you can do to protect yourself in a crash

Seat belts are the best defense against impaired, aggressive, and distracted drivers. Being buckled up during a crash helps keep you safe and secure inside your vehicle; being completely ejected from a vehicle is almost always deadly.

2. Air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them

If you don’t wear your seat belt, you could be thrown into a rapidly opening frontal air bag. Such force could injure or even kill you.

If You’re Pregnant: Seat Belt Recommendations for Drivers and Passengers
If you’re pregnant, make sure you know how to position your seat and wear a seat belt to maximize your safety and the safety of your unborn child. Read our recommendations below or view the instructional diagram version of our seat belt recommendations for pregnant drivers and passengers (PDF 497 KB).

I’m Pregnant. Should I Wear a Seat Belt?

YES—doctors recommend it. Buckling up through all stages of your pregnancy is the single most effective action you can take to protect yourself and your unborn child in a crash.

NEVER drive or ride in a car without buckling up first!

What’s the Right Way to Wear My Seat Belt?

The shoulder belt away from your neck (but not off your shoulder) and across your chest (between your breasts), making sure to remove any slack from your seat belt with the lap belt secured below your belly so that it fits snugly across your hips and pelvic bone.

NEVER place the shoulder belt under your arm or behind your back.

NEVER place lap belt over or on top of your belly.

Should I Adjust My Seat?

YES—Adjust to a comfortable, upright position.

Keep as much distance as possible between your belly and the steering wheel.

Comfortably reach the steering wheel and pedals.

To minimize the gap between your shoulder and the seat belt, avoid reclining your seat more than necessary.

Avoid letting your belly touch the steering wheel.

What if My Car or Truck Has Air Bags?

You still need to wear your seat belt properly. Air bags are designed to work with seat belts, not replace them. Without a seat belt, you could crash into the vehicle interior, other passengers, or be ejected from the vehicle. My Car Has an ON-OFF Air Bag Disabling Switch. Should I turn it off?

NO—Doctors recommend that pregnant women wear seat belts and leave air bags turned on. Seat belts and air bags work together to provide the best protection for you and your unborn child.
What Should I Do if I am Involved in a Crash?

Seek immediate medical attention, even if you think you are not injured, regardless of whether you’re the driver or passenger.

NHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation's roads

As part of NHTSA's mission to help Americans drive, ride and walk safely, we work to educate Americans about how to protect themselves and others on the road through public service campaigns such as Buckle Up America, Never Give Up Until They Buckle Up (promoting tween seat belt use), and Click It or Ticket, (associated with increased seat belt enforcement periods supported by State and local law enforcement across the country).

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Angry_Ed posted:

And yet somehow the citizens of the US and their goldfish memory think Trump/Republicans are better on the economy.

If you are in the top 20% of incomes, earn most of your money from corporate profits or business passthrough income, are an American steelworker who is not one of the few that will be laid off due to trade war policies, and aren't an illegal immigrant then these will probably be "better on the economy" for you.

It seems unlikely that those situations apply to most of the roughly 55% of Americans who think that these policies will be better for lowering inflation, though.

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Also you live like a monk and will be unaffected by price shocks from the trade war

If you're in one of those categories, then $6 trillion in tax cuts will do a lot to smooth out a roughly 13.8% increase in prices.

That is about $87,000 per year less in taxes for the top 1% vs. a roughly $47 higher average grocery bill.

Also, according to the Trump campaign economists, deregulation, unleashing American energy production, and the corporate tax cuts will supercharge the economy and raise incomes to combat that price increase. So, it is slightly unfair to say that those policies will result in a 13.8% real income decrease for the average person since there will likely be a non-zero amount they "get back" in tax cuts or economic growth. Although, most of the tax cuts for lower-income households come from making the existing Trump tax cuts permanent, so that isn't actually a net change from right now and is just a net change against a hypothetical 2026 where the tax rates go up.

Still, it is likely going to result in a real income decrease for most people unless the supercharged economy from those policies performs above all expectations and estimates to an astonishing degree. It is also going to depend on your spending habits and what industry you work in as well. It isn't going to be totally evenly distributed in impact.

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I know that it's ultimately a generational thing--I grew up with the Importance of Seatbelts being repeatedly hammered home in school, I don't think about buckling the seatbelt, it's pure muscle memory--but it's still wild to me that there's that many people who don't wear them. I feel less comfortable in a car without one, the snugness is nice.

92 out of 100 people wearing a seatbelt every time they drive is a remarkably successful public safety campaign. It is still crazy that there are tens of millions of people who don't wear seatbelts in 2024, but 92% compliance is really good. It was only 11% in 1982.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Right. This new "policy" is just a complicated version of "purge the brown" where "brown" here means "immigrant." It should not be understood as an actual attempt to achieve economic goals; such would be accepting republican pretense rather than rejecting it.

Very large tax cuts for wealthy individuals and businesses paired with sharp reductions in social spending is basically the oldest and purest form of Republican economic goals.

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This is probably my biggest complaint about the NHTSA: their car safety regulations often ignore pedestrians / bicyclists / people in other cars. Car safety tests are all about how well your car protects you from death, not about how well it prevents death in general, so we get a ridiculous car size arms race. When giant SUVs and pick-ups are rated as "safe", it's because our concept of car safety is "kill the other guy".

They have other studies and their annual safety stats include pedestrian deaths. It's just that in a study about seatbelt efficacy, you are by definition not including pedestrians because they have no seatbelts.

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Angry_Ed posted:

There's no way prices are going to go down in any appreciable way, when companies are already making continuously increasing profits and then they get another tax cut on top of that.

That's mostly because Europe doesn't think "douchenozzle truck bro" is a market worth cartering to, thankfully.

The theory isn't that tax cuts will cause them to lower prices. It's that the tax cuts and deregulation will supercharge the economy and raise wages, so that 13.8% price increase from tariffs (which are tax increases) will be countered by the growth leading to real income increases for Americans despite higher nominal prices.

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A jury in Michigan, for the first time in American history, held the parent of a minor mass shooter criminally liable for her son's mass shooting.

She was convicted on 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter.

Since it is hard to keep track of all the mass shootings over the last few years, this was a school shooting where the mother was found to:

- Have given her son the gun.

- Texted her son to do a better job hiding bullets after he was caught with them in school and got in trouble.

- Let her son keep the semi-automatic handgun she bought him unlocked in his room.

- Covered for her son when he was caught multiple times making threats to shoot up the school and writing out his plans in notebooks.

- Let her son bring the gun to school, but told him not to take it out or get caught with it.

She says that she never believed that her son was capable of mass murder, so all of her actions were done within that context and she wasn't responsible for his actions.

The prosecution alleged that her level of negligence was so high that it qualified for involuntary manslaughter and the jury agreed.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1754938615430308115

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Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting

PONTIAC, Mich. — Jennifer Crumbley, the Michigan woman charged in connection with her son’s deadly school shooting rampage in 2021, was convicted Tuesday of involuntary manslaughter in the unprecedented case.

The unanimous verdict came on the second day of jury deliberations in a landmark trial that turned on an unusual question: Can the parent of a child who commits a mass shooting also be held criminally responsible?

Crumbley, 45, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter — one for each of the victims in the attack at Oxford High School in November 2021. Her son, Ethan, pleaded guilty as an adult to murder, terrorism and other crimes, and was sentenced in December to life in prison without parole.

Now, she faces up to 15 years in prison per count and remains held on bond. She will be sentenced on April 9.

The trial, which opened Jan. 25 in an Oakland County courtroom, hit at themes of good parenting and gun safety, and has come at a consequential moment in the U.S. when a drumbeat of school shootings have roiled communities like Uvalde, Texas; Nashville; and Perry, Iowa.

In an effort to determine to what extent a parent should be held accountable for the actions of their child, jurors in Oakland County examined more than 400 pieces of evidence, including text messages and photos from Crumbley's cellphone, and dramatic video of the shooting spree, which left many in the courtroom visibly shaken.

The prosecution called more than 20 witnesses, including law enforcement and school staff, while the defense brought in just one: the defendant.

To prove its case, the prosecution attempted to portray Crumbley as a neglectful mother, who cared more about her hobbies and carrying on an extramarital affair than spending time with her son. Then, when she and her husband gifted their son a semi-automatic handgun in the days before the shooting, prosecutors pointed out that neither of them properly stored it.

On the same day as the shooting, when the Crumbleys were earlier summoned to the school because of a disturbing drawing of a gun made by their son, the parents didn't tell school officials he had access to a weapon or take him home.

But her defense lawyer, Shannon Smith, suggested it was James Crumbley who was specifically in charge of storing the weapon, and that the school knew Ethan was having trouble paying attention in classes but didn't fully inform Jennifer Crumbley.

Smith had asked the jury during her closing argument to acquit her client, "not just for Jennifer Crumbley, but for every mother who's out there doing the best they can, who could easily be in her shoes."

James Crumbley, 47, is expected to stand trial next month on the same involuntary manslaughter charges.

Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in her own defense. She testified that her son was generally worried about his future after high school and was "depressed," but that his mental health never alarmed her enough that she felt he needed to see a professional.

She acknowledged that she could have taken him home on the day of the shooting, but also didn't believe he was capable of committing such violence. More than two years after the shooting, she told the jury she "wouldn't have" done anything differently.

"I don't think I’m a failure as a parent," she said.

Selina Guevara reported from Pontiac and Erik Ortiz from New York.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jennifer-crumbley-trial-verdict-rcna136937

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FistEnergy posted:

You're absolutely correct, but this is also the Democrats as well. It's a frustrating, neverending team sport.

Skex posted:

Bullshit, this is not a loving both sides thing and pretending that it is is pure right-wing rhetoric.

FistEnergy is correct that a large chunk of Democrats absolutely view politics as a team sport rather than about the specifics of public policy because most people don't know many specifics about public policy and take their cues from leaders they trust. This is extremely clear from public polling and human behavior in general.

I think he is wrong in comparing the current situation.

The Republicans getting most of their border demands attached to a broader spending bill, having nearly every elected official turn around and oppose their own bill because Trump wanted to keep the issue alive for the election, and 3/4 of Republican voters approving despite spending years saying that border security was of cataclysmic importance is actually unprecedented.

It would be like if after they spent 2 years negotiating Obamacare, then Obama announced that he wanted to keep healthcare as an issue for the next election, hundreds of elected Democrats all swapped and voted down the Obamacare bill, and registered Democrats went from 90% in support to 80% opposed to government subsidized healthcare in 72 hours.

It is pretty much unprecedented for every elected official and nearly every voter in a national political party to swap positions on an issue that they have rated their #1 most important issue for years in less than 3 days because one person said to.

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mobby_6kl posted:

Is this the first time the parents have been prosecuted?

I read the Columbine book a while ago and it didn't seem like the parents could've been reasonably expected to see the massacre coming. Unless they like searched everything and found the tapes and diaries. I wonder if this is more common rather than the clearly negligent assholes like here.

It's not the first time parents have ever been prosecuted, but it is extremely rare. I can only remember one case from a few years ago when a women was found guilty and put on probation because she didn't take her mentally ill son's guns away after he was convicted of a crime and went on to shoot up his school (nobody died).

There's probably a couple others in history, but it is extremely rare to be prosecuted and they have never successfully done it until today.

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Kagrenak posted:

Here's an article from when they were charged. It seems like one parent once was prosecuted for child neglect and one or two others might've gotten hit with illegal guns charges but that's not directly related to the shooting per se. This seems to be the first prosecution of a homicide crime against parents of a shooter for sure.

E: the one I'm talking about is the one Leon mentioned

Thank you for the article. That was the case I was thinking of.

I had it slightly off, though.

He threatened to shoot up his school, but wasn't actually convicted of a crime before he later shot up the school.

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It in fact is extremely precedented, didn't this happen in 2013 with the gang of 8 immigration deal that Boehner refused to bring up for a vote in the house people there was enough bipartisan support to pass it and Republicans didn't want to give Obama a win (and take away a big argument about Obama's crisis) before a midterm election

The Gang of 8 bill was failing because a chunk of Republicans (and Democrats) opposed it from the start. The fact that there was bipartisan support to pass it was the problem.

The equivalent would be if every member of the Gang of 8 denounced their own ideas and then voted it down because Mitt Romney called on them to do it and then 3/4 of Republican voters across the country who had been saying immigration was their #1 issue for two years changed their mind to say, "Nah, it can wait another year. It's good that the policies I supported aren't being passed now."

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I don't think we're at the breaking dawn of a new day where parents of school shooters are convicted on the regular, because most people when their child texts them saying they're hearing voices and that the demon in the kitchen is throwing bowls around would probably not text back saying "suck it up" and then continue to let them have an unsecured gun and ammunition in their bedroom.

I agree that it is almost never going to really happen again, but it is still pretty striking.

Despite her (and her husband's) repeated and wild negligence, she is probably correct that basically no mother assumes that their kid is going to become a mass murderer and acts with that information in mind. It is extremely rare to hold parents criminally responsible for almost anything their minor child does, let alone multiple manslaughter charges that can carry a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

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Angry_Ed posted:

There's a big loving difference between "assuming one's kid becomes a school shooter" and "repeatedly ignores all red flags to the point of giving him a gun and advice to hide the bullets better".

If mental healthcare wasn't stigmatized in this country this kid might have been able to get some help before he ended up shooting people, but we're not going to know that because his parents failed him.

Right. I agree with the decision. I am just saying that it was literally unprecedented for a reason and it wasn't totally clear from the start that this would be the outcome. Her attorney's argument that we almost never hold parents (criminally) accountable for the violence of their children in other situations isn't incorrect.

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Pennsylvania's Governor is calling on the state to legalize marijuana.

The new Democratic House will start drafting a bill, but they only have a 1-vote majority.

The Republicans have a 6-vote majority in the state Senate. It's not clear how many Republicans would be willing to support legalization (or if there are any specifics re: taxes or regulations that disagreements between pro-legalization Democrats or Republicans could end up killing any potential bill), so it isn't a sure thing.

If Pennsylvania does legalize it, that would make it the 25th state and recreational marijuana would then be legal in half the states.

https://twitter.com/GovernorShapiro/status/1754935387816935752

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They delayed the supplemental bill for 4 months because Republicans demanded that border security provisions be attached to it or they wouldn't bring it up for a vote.

Now, they are demanding they bring the supplemental bill up for a vote without the border security provisions they demanded 4 months ago.

One of the provisions in the bill was an increase in LIHEAP funding for the 2023 winter, so I wonder if that is still in there.

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koolkal posted:

It's amusing that this is the 2nd Dem president in a row where Republicans have saved the country from a lovely bill.

It's bonkers that Republicans have basically had some of the major policy goals they have been pursuing for decades handed to them on a silver platter, but lost everything because they were bundled with a few things Democrats wanted.

And even more bonkers that it happened again 10 years later.

If you are someone who prefers Republican public policy, then it must be infuriating that they refuse to take the win.

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The Lord of Hats posted:

No, no, this isn't the same thing.

They're rejecting the thing they wanted and asking to pass only the additional things the Democrats wanted instead, without the things they wanted.

It's even more bonkers than you're saying.

I don't know if they are planning on including everything that was in the original supplemental bill from October, but there was flood relief for New York/Florida and some other things that Republicans supported as well.

But, yes, they are now pretty much demanding that they pass a bill that Democrats originally wanted to pass and will only vote for it if they remove the parts they originally demanded be added.

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This is what was in the original October version of the supplemental bill:

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- Humanitarian and military aid for Ukraine.
- Humanitarian aid for both Gaza and Israel and military aid for Israel.
- Money for more immigration judges to process asylum requests faster.
- Disaster relief aid and flood insurance reimbursements for Hawaii, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York.
- Approval of sales of U.S. planes to Taiwan.
- Funding for additional inspection technology on the Mexico and Canadian borders to more quickly process vehicles passing through.
- More money for FEMA to fill disaster relief coffers so they aren't required to pass new funding for relief and allow FEMA to act more quickly to disburse money.
- Money to implement a permanent pay reform for national park firefighters that stops them from having their salary cut by 40% if congress doesn't vote to approve every year.
- Money for schools, highways, and rural areas to repair and modify their buildings to be more resistant to natural disasters.
- Additional funding for LIHEAP to provide free and subsidized heating oil this winter.
- Extending the 2021 stimulus bill's provision that subsidized up to $8,000 in child care costs that is set to expire at the end of the year.
- Money to extend a program to provide free internet to low income Americans.
- Reforms and money to encourage the development of enriched uranium and nuclear power to replace sources that previously came from Russia and encourage green energy.
- Money for grants to expand rehab and opioid treatment centers.
- Permanently expand the budget of the "Food for Peace" program that provides international food aid.

It's not clear from their public statements whether they are including all of that or just the foreign aid packages. Some of it, like LIHEAP funding for winter, doesn't make much sense now if it won't be available until April.

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The first phase of the new IRS enforcement project is set to begin this year.

This initial expanded phase is limited in scope while they train and set up the new auditing divisions. The individual and business audit divisions established by the IRA won't both be fully up and running until 2026.

This year, they are focusing on the top 10,000 highest-income individual taxpayers and the top 350 corporations with overdue, complicated, or unpaid taxes and expect to pull in an average of $85.1 billion in extra revenue per year over the next 10 years.

Last year, the tax gap (the gap between taxes officially owed and the amount collected) hit a record high of just over $600 billion. Based on the preliminary data, the IRS expects to capture between 20 and 25 percent of the owed and unpaid taxes this year.

They also expect to roughly triple the audit rate for individuals with income over $400,000 this year and roughly double the audit rate of corporations with at least $1 billion in revenue by next year.

Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO) says these are "pie in the sky" estimates and if they end up being accurate will actually be the result of increased enforcement on people making less than $75,000. He says the number one priority of the Ways and Mean Committee next year will be to defund the remaining $60 billion in IRS funding provided by the IRA.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The IRS is poised to take in hundreds of billions of dollars more in overdue and unpaid taxes than previously anticipated, according to new analysis released Tuesday by the Treasury Department and the IRS.

Tax revenues are expected to rise by as much as $561 billion from 2024 to 2034, thanks to stepped-up enforcement made possible with money from the Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act, which became law in August 2022.

The Congressional Budget Office in 2022 estimated that the tens of billions of new IRS funding provided by the IRA would increase revenues by $180.4 billion from 2022 to 2031. The IRS now says that if IRA funding is restored, renewed and diversified, estimated revenues could reach as much as $851 billion from 2024 to 2034.

Administration officials are using the report to promote President Joe Biden’s economic agenda as he campaigns for reelection — and as the IRS continually faces threats to its funding.

“This analysis demonstrates that President Biden’s investment in rebuilding the IRS will reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars by making the wealthy and big corporations pay the taxes they owe,” National Economic Adviser Lael Brainard said in a statement.

“Congressional Republicans’ efforts to cut IRS funding show that they prioritize letting the wealthiest Americans and big corporations evade their taxes over cutting the deficit,” Brainard said.

The Inflation Reduction Act gave the IRS an $80 billion infusion of funds. However, House Republicans built a $1.4 billion reduction to the IRS into the debt ceiling and budget cuts package passed by Congress last summer. A separate agreement took an additional $20 billion from the IRS over the next two years to divert to other non-defense programs.

Since then, the agency has tried to show how it is spending the money it has left, in hopes of stemming the cuts. New customer service improvements rolled out as the tax season began Jan. 29, and earlier this month the IRS announced that it had recouped half a billion dollars in back taxes from rich tax cheats.

Rep. Jason Smith, the Republican chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said in a statement that the report “calls for even more IRS funding, uses pie-in-the-sky numbers, all without being straightforward about where the burdens of massive new enforcement efforts will fall.” He said increased funding will inevitably result in hundreds of thousands of additional audits for taxpayers making less than $75,000.

After the IRA was signed into law, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen directed IRS leadership not to increase audit rates on people making less than $400,000 a year annually.

Ensuring that people actually pay their taxes is one of the tax collection agency’s biggest challenges. The audit rate of millionaires fell by more than 70% from 2010 to 2019 and the audit rate on large corporations fell by more than 50%, Treasury’s Deputy Assistant Secretary for Tax Analysis Greg Leiserson told reporters. IRA funding “is enabling the IRS to reverse this trend,” Leiserson said.

The tax gap — which is the difference between taxes owed and taxes paid — has grown to more than $600 billion annually, according to the IRS.

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The head of data science and polling for Global Strategy Groups posted a long breakdown of all of their data and publicly available polling data about the 2024 election and Biden's approvals specifically.

Not too many big surprises, but some interesting notes:

- Biden has lost the largest approval rating among voters 18-29 and black voters compared to 2020.

- These are generally progressive-leaning groups, however his deterioration is almost all with 18-29 and black voters who identify as moderate. His decline among voters who identify as left of center has been much smaller.

- There is a huge variance in polling subsamples for 18-29 voters. Biden is either going to do slightly better than he did in 2020, about the same, or do 23 points worse than he did in 2020 among voters 18-29. Multiple polls they consider credible have shown all of those results.

- Trump has a similar situation with black and Hispanic voters. His numbers for them are all over the map. Trump will either do about the same as he did in 2020, slightly better than he did in 2020, or "the biggest single-election shift & the strongest performance for a GOP presidential candidate among Hispanics in 60+ years." Several polls have shown all three results.

- Biden has seen a dramatic drop in support among independents compared to 2020 and that is consistent across all major polls.

- One weird area of positive change for Biden is that he is actually slightly leading among voters 65+ and that is the one demographic he is doing noticeably better with compared to 2020.

- The two biggest policy issues hurting Biden are inflation (specifically grocery store prices) and immigration. Nothing else comes close.

- The one single personal issue that is hurting Biden the most is age.

- The two biggest issues boosting Biden are Abortion and fear of Trump/defending democracy.

- Third party candidates seem to be taking votes from Trump and Biden almost equally (with slightly more coming from Biden). This indicates that there are protest votes/people dissatisfied with both candidates.

- In a twist from historical norms, Biden does much better among likely voters than registered voters. This implies that higher turnout may actually be good for Trump and lower turnout good for Biden. This is likely the result of higher education voters (who are much more likely to vote) drifting towards Democrats over the last 10 years and white people with no degree (who are much less likely to vote) drifting towards Republicans over the last 10 years.

- RFK Jr. is still pulling low double digits in most polls. It seems incredibly unlikely he will get that much in the actual election, especially since he isn't even trying to get on the ballot in a lot of states.

- Another big uncertainty is that Biden has a huge advantage among likely voters who say they dislike both candidates. It's not clear how that will play out in the final results.

- Another huge uncertainty is how voters say they will respond if Trump is convicted of a felony. His total vote count would plummet by about 7% according to some polls.

tl;dr: Biden is objectively polling worse now than he was in 2020. However, the election results have huge potential variances from third party voters, wide ranges in demographic subsamples, and uncertain turnout models.

Which polls are more accurate at predicting 18-29, Hispanic, and black voter choices, what happens with Trump's criminal trials, if there are any big changes in opinion or salience of inflation/immigration/abortion issues before November, and how voters who claim they are voting for a third party candidate or say they dislike both candidates end up voting will determine which polls were more accurate.

Either way, a moderately big victory by either candidate is a real possibility, but a very close race is the most likely outcome (according to polling right now). There is a tremendous degree of uncertainty in the polling, though. 2020 had a significantly narrower band of potential results and fewer large outliers than 2024 - despite the ongoing pandemic. So, the numerous potential variables and sampling models among different pollsters are producing a wide range of results.

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Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 7, 2024

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