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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1752914377395851642

This is like, struggling state party numbers....

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

MAGA Inc raised $46 m in the second half of 2023 for a yearly total of $59m. Unfortunately, that's only $4 m more than the big boy spent on legal last year

quote:

Two of Trump’s committees, Save America leadership PAC and the Make America Great Again PAC, spent $55.6 million on legal bills in 2023, including $29.9 million in the second half of the year, according to the new reports released Wednesday.

The Trump campaign had more than $33 million in cash on hand at the end of last year after raising more than $19 million in the fourth quarter. Save America leadership PAC had about $5.1 million in cash on hand at the end of the year. Across all of his committees, Trump had a war chest of over $70 million at the end of the year, a total that includes cash available to his allied super PAC, MAGA Inc.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

it feels a tiny copey but i think alot of it is trumps eating the money, lots of quiet corruption like with scott, true believers replacing various good earners and alot of billionares staying out of it because they want haley types instead of maga.

I mean I have no doubt the money men can turn on the spigots when they want but that still shows a shocking lack of donor buy in for the year leading up to the election.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Morrow posted:

Even the GOP's control of the house is threatening various tax cuts, since they can't keep their caucus cohesive enough to pass legislation and negotiate.

They're not even going to be able to do a consolation impeachment

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1753134034115281196

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1753938395548516624

Obama got 89% in SC in ‘12. Remember this next time you see a poll with xtabs showing trump winning a third of minority voters.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Discendo Vox posted:

The tweet you got that number from is using a cropped screenshot of the overall US democratic primary result.

Ah, my mistake

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The craziest thing about that, among many, many crazy things, is that both parents were called into the school on the day of the shooting about their son's school shooter behavior and they didn't care.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The border deal was real real bad but the outcome of the very same politicians who have been demanding a solution to the border crisis turning around and killing it for electoral advantage is such a good outcome for the Democratic Party. Pretty risky to put that out there given it could've been passed, but I guess you never bet against GOP intransigence.

It seems almost too conspiratorial to say this was an intentional tactic, I don't think it was, I think the Dems are just scared of immigration since Americans (oh and every other nation in the world) are so insanely reactionary about it. But if it was the plan, it was quite a coup. I mean you got the head of the CBP union on Fox saying the GOP is lying about what's in the bill, you got Fox anchors directly contradicting Nancy Mace on the provisions of the bill.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1754610585923101070

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1754866298457059572

Doocey is pushing back! Doocey!!!

Furthermore, Plan B is now to pass a clean foreign aid package - which is what the Dems wanted in the first place

zoux fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Feb 6, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Yeah, i think the bill sucked but it could have been way way way worse and i am glad the GOP is too insane to play the game now.
anyway, i think plan b gets passed and either narroly passes or dies in the house.

I will say I have zero faith in the American electorate to acknowledge what's going on and punish the GOP for their obvious bad faith dealing. I imagine by April Fox will be full-throated "Bad bill! Good kill!"

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Speculation time: Trump is famously a teetotaller, so do we think AB Inbev paid him for this or what

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/HouseDailyPress/status/1755014821819387947

Mayorkas impeachment defeated on the floor, does the Republican caucus even have a whip

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

FlamingLiberal posted:

Jesus Christ this is such a massive self-own

Just remember that them going after this guy was the consolation prize when they realized that moving forward with a Biden impeachment on shaky ground would just help him

https://twitter.com/MrSantosNY/status/1755014384009548256

Shoulda listened to Gaetz!

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1755017504638841055

Buddy, that's every day in Mike Johnson's House.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Kale posted:

So I assume even if they get the votes in the house the Senate would have to affirm the impeachment and there's basically no chance of that. Unless the system for impeaching a cabinet secretary is somehow dumb

No you’re right.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1753408044824764647

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1755027753995514004

JFK Jr is alive…

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I mean, waiting for the other guys to have some absences isn't cheating, it's part of the ballgame. This happens in every legislative body in the country.

The bill didn't also pass because McCarthy and Santos are gone and Scalise is out for the week, I don't think that we should let them have a mulligan on that poo poo either.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yeah the dipshit thing was Johnson holding a vote that he either didn't count noses on or was so close that he was reckless in holding it, given his insane caucus. Just from a legislating perspective, the House GOP has no idea what it's doing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://x.com/drewsav/status/1755720368638025970?s=46&t=A_iY-gupVf13dcIJPetZhQ

Well, the big fella is off message.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Honestly reading it again I think that's more or less the sort of thing Hurr was trying to suggest. He talks about how Biden would "Present himself" to the jury, which seems to imply intent.

No, you are correct. The problem is the WH correspondents are omitting the ‘present himself as’ part for clicks because they want this narrative.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1755683046915731465

https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1755686469610442789

It’s only a gift if the press continues to remove context: which they absolutely will.



Bottom line is Biden’s gonna have to do more press to dispel it

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

James Garfield posted:

Most news isn't as important as Twitter makes it sound, nobody will remember this in three weeks.

Two weeks ago twitter was sure that a Greg Abbott press release was the harbinger of a shootin war between the Texas National Guard and federal troops. People were saying it was worse than 1/6.

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1755771044705489250

Less than an hour post Biden press conference

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

RFK Jr is running solely on his last name, people finding more out about him is the worst possible thing for his campaign.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

I didn't watch anything yesterday, why was the ad bad enough it needed to be apologized for?



He's so mortified that it's his pinned tweet.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hmmm I googled RFK Jr and I got a video of him listing encounters with Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell like Bubba Gump listing types of shrimp

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Main Paineframe posted:

This seems to be the ad in question:
https://twitter.com/AmValues2024/status/1756847553595760906

Given that the entire rest of the Kennedy clan seems to hate him and everything he stands for, it's no wonder they were particularly pissed about this ad.



lol

Also most of the money from American Values PAC comes from one guy, a Trump megadonor

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The fact that approximately 25% of all sports related content is now gambling related, while a lesser concern than gambling pathologies, loving sucks.

What changed in law to allow this to happen?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I can't find any specifics about the portion of spending for individual customers, but Fan Duels alone had 17 million Americans place a bet last year. I would assume that most of them are 1-2 bet people and there are a large chunk of whales that make up the top 10% or so.

But, the scale is still pretty astounding. With just one company, there are ~17 million Americans throwing around money on sports bets and fantasy football bets. With about $100 billion in money spent on the industry as a whole. That is about 12x more than every major movie at the 2022 box office made combined.

Kayshon Bouette, a Patriots receiver who came out of LSU, was recently indicted on illegal gambling charges from when he was in college and underage - he placed almost 9,000 bets involving half a million dollars in wins and losses in a one year period.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

You may or may have not heard that there was an attempted mass shooting at Lakewood Church in Houston (Osteen's church) on Sunday. The discourse on this one is going to be intolerable, as the perpetrator ended up being a trans woman with "Free Palestine" written on her AR-15. She was stopped by "good guys with guns", so this will perfectly slot into the conservative narrative on guns and mass shootings. (That the off duty cops returning fire likely shot a child who is not expected to survive will be omitted of course).

Fox is already visibly erect over it

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Queering Wheel posted:

The shooter wasn't trans. It's another loving hoax that chuds are pushing and you really shouldn't post poo poo like this before actual authorities confirm it. They've been trying to do this for almost every single mass shooting lately.

https://x.com/Esqueer_/status/1757141101725786617?s=20

Fox has appropriately updated its scary headlline



Houston Chronicle has also updated its story

quote:

Officers continued to engage Genesse until she fell to the ground, Hassig said. Her child also fell to the ground after being shot in the head. Genesse was pronounced dead at 2:07 p.m. Authorities stated that the buttstock of the AR-15 she wielded featured a sticker of the word "Palestine." Previous reports incorrectly stated the long gun featured the words "Free Palestine." Hassig stated "antisemitic writings" have been discovered in subsequent investigations into Genesse. The commander said the shooter used male and female aliases in the past, but has identified as female "this entire time."

Hassig also stated the shooter had a history of mental health illness and was previously put under emergency detention orders by Houston police. Genesse appears to have legally purchased at least one of the guns used in the attack as recently as December. The commander stated the shooter may have been embroiled in a familial dispute with the family of an ex-husband.

"We do believe there was a familial dispute between her and her ex-husband's family, and some of those people are Jewish," Hassig said.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I think more of the frustration is that the media focus on Biden's age as equivalent to Trump's infinite list of disqualifying opinions, actions, and intentions. Like, Trump invited Russia to invade NATO over the weekend and it didn't get four loving columns in the NYT.

https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1756453489163530335

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1756326917970575576

That's the "her emails" connection. I mean, if you're saying that media coverage doesn't affect candidate perception among the public, I'd have to disagree.

https://twitter.com/SER1897/status/1756441569190989897

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Feb 13, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Right. Like John Stewart did a bit last night where he talked about Biden's memory failures then cut to clips of Trump forgetting all the same poo poo in depositions. It's an absurdly false equivalence that the NYT is hammering because, well, probably mostly because the NYT is owned by right wingers.

It's a confluence of things, imo. First, liberals panic-click on bad news like crazy and share those articles with their other panicky friends, so "Dems bad" articles get a lot of engagement. Second, the news industry is in dire straits and the Trump admin was a balm unto their balance sheets, so another Trump presidency would be good for business (provided he doesn't end the free press and put journalists in shackles, of course). Third, the media/news culture surrounding DC and the WH in particular is diseased and the reporters are bored

https://twitter.com/scarylawyerguy/status/1756674613923254685

Senate Cum Dump posted:

It doesn't really matter if it's a false equivalence and Trump isn't getting covered the same way. That doesn't address the root concern which is that Biden is feeble and is perceived as such. Deflecting the issue is not going to change any voters' minds.

Well he can't be replaced and he can't be made younger, so there's nothing to do about it, is there

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Senate Cum Dump posted:

That's rather dismissive and just wrong at face value. He could resign, party leadership could pressure him to step down.

In favor of who?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

"Party Leadership" *waves hands*

I love "party leadership" because it always somehow exists as this source of influence separate from the candidates or elected officials at the top of the party

I'm still waiting for "republican party leadership" to stop Trump

Especially since "party leadership" was the problem such that they got rid of superdelegates in 2020.

DaveWoo posted:

The obvious fallback choice would be Kamala, but somehow I don't think either the media or the folks in this thread would be happy with that.

Literally the only realistic alternative, and she would not be a good candidate. You think Gavin "I WILL be President" Newsome didn't poll a Biden challenge?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Nobody's numbers are doing better than Biden. There isn't some other Dem candidate or governor that's raking in the small dollar donations and packing rallies. I don't know if they're still polling other non-Biden names, but Whitmer and Newsome and whoever else weren't improving on Biden's polling at all.

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I read a story that talked about how much Williamsburg (NY) has gentrified over the years. While gentrification is not great, how would one counteract the process? You can't prevent folks from moving to new places, so I guess something to do with housing maybe?

Fire a single gunshot into the air every morning. (But yeah housing, areas get gentrified because they are cheaper to live in. I'm not sure that you can eliminate it, areas that get gentrified are probably always going to have cheaper housing than other areas, but as you increase housing options and decrease the price, you'd see less people get pushed out of their existing homes due to finances.)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Zwabu posted:

So is the Santos replacement race happening today? Anyone have any news? I listened to some NYT podcast that said it was super close because IMMIGRATION and the GOP candidate being some ultra Zionist.

https://twitter.com/JSweetLI/status/1757435942560747813

I've only kind of been paying attention but there's a big snow storm in NY today and - again this is passively gleaned knowledge so I'll stand to be corrected - the GOP needed a big E-day turnout because early and mail-in voting are fraudulent and so they didn't do em.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

IF this tweet is correct a very low E-day turnout would be extremely bad for the GOP candidate

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Pretty deep bench, I imagine most of them probably polled, or were shown polling, of a Biden challenge and they decided to sit this one out rather than end up like Desantis.

Personally, I think Whitmer would be my choice, done a lot with narrow legislative majorities and she's from a critical midwest state. But watching Gavin dogwalk meatball ron made me less worried about a Newsom candidacy.

zoux fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 13, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Relevant Tangent posted:

That has more to do with federalism than anything.

This isn't relevant to the general discussion but this reminds me about something I've long wondered: are there other countries where "states" or whatever they call their federalized administrative zones, have as much autonomy as the US?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

what the hell is a "great neck" thing

Nancy Reagan's epitaph

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/1757772885110800679

Just wanted to get this out here on the official forums record so we can circle back when she endorses Trump in August.



Trump seems to get that he's not much younger than Biden, it'd be real funny if the GOP was prevented from going after Biden's age because Trump relentlessly pushes against it.

zoux fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Feb 14, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Nucleic Acids posted:

I really do not care about the demographics of his district at all, any level of support for Israel is a moral atrocity.

I think this is a pretty good example of the tension between a deontologist view of politics and an utilitarian one. That district would never elect someone who didn't massively support Israel. In my view, I would rather have a Democrat who is bad on Israel - to my views on politics - but otherwise voted consistently for Democratic policy proposals that I support rather than a Republican who would be just as bad on Israel and would vote consistently for Republican policy proposals. Would you prefer to have a Democrat who is aligns with your views on Israel but loses to a Republican over a Democrat who only disagrees with you on Israel, because those are the two outcomes. There is no world where that district elects the next member of the Squad. So you have to weigh whether you keep the moral high ground, but lose as far as outcomes go, or cede the moral high ground and win on outcomes.

For me, I prefer actual outcomes over moral victories

https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/1757797491829821651

What's the mechanism here?
1 - Taylor Swift is popular
2- ?????
3 - Biden wins

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Feb 14, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Whatever it is I'm going to place money on "It's so stupid as to make you groan"

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1757816432077811770

Well it's something I guess

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