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Wendaug is way more entertaining for pretty much the entire game then Lann so that's enough justification to pick her though it's obviously flimsy from a character perspective, but eh. Double axe chuckin Wendaug is really really funny once she gets a few levels and comes fully online.
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Aeon rules and is probably tied for my favourite mythic path alongside Retribution Angel. Azata is probably my least favourite of the fully developed mythic paths though it’s still much better than the stragglers.
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Almost every mythic theme is fantastic but Aeon is the best one just barely followed by Demon.
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idonotlikepeas posted:I'll probably have a few words about this exact thing once Cythereal gets further into the story. In some ways Wrath really is a game about morality, but I do wish it looked at it through a lens more like Pillars used. Not all games can be created by Josh Sawyer, though, and I don't think it does a bad job for what it wants to be. Yeah for what Wrath is and what I expected it’s actually really solid, I was expecting to be very bored by Angel but found it a lot of fun. It’s got nothing on say Pillars but I do find it a lot more fun to play because my brain is broken in specific ways Pathfinder 1E itches.
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I don’t find power fantasy narratives interesting in most circumstances outside of funny gameplay stuff, which thankfully Wrath has got in droves. Wrath also at least doles out its power fantasies in a ton of different flavors which is a lot more fun to mess around with as a narrative even if I don’t find it that interesting beyond a surface level. Oracle Angel my beloved. RevolverDivider fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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Daeran rules, Nenio is insufferable and has the worst quest line in the game by a mile. Incredibly powerful in combat though so generally worth using.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:
Yeah this is probably a big part of why I don’t like Nenio. There’s a handful of party members I find way more boring than her Sosiel, sorta Lann but he’s a weird character who is all over the place but she’s occasionally funny, but the majority of the party in this game is excellent so her being bleh stands out a lot more.
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I like Astarion more then Daeran, but a lot of that probably comes down to the incredible performance by Astarion's actor and he's probably the single best overall character in that game. Daeran's still really great and I've used them pretty heavily in every playthrough I did of Wrath except for Angel.
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Demons are way more powerful then the regular people they're up against. It doesn't show much since the LP is on Story, but a lot of demons even early on can really mess you up and have a lot of dangerous abilities you need to deal with when fighting them. If it wasn't for the protagonist's presence, the city would have absolutely no chance and be wiped out.
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Daeran and upcoming guy we’ll meet later are easily my favourite companions. Cammy is very funny for the effect she has on people that think they can fix her or are shocked she’s a monster, but she’s pretty flat as a character compared to a lot of the other party outside a few cool permutations of her story. Absolute god monster in gameplay though and I took her with me to the end of the game as Trickster. Not so much Retribution Angel Demon or Aeon.
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Daeran’s great and one of the most memorable and well written party members. He’s got a decent amount of depth to him, he gets along with Ember, and he’s got a good back and forth with most of the party as he can take people dunking on him as well without being insufferable about it. Being anti-Galfrey is also a strong plus for him. Him and Ember are probably the characters I’ve brought with me the most on my runs.
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People can still discuss the stuff they find interesting since there will be a whole lot of stuff people like and want to talk about that Cythereal doesn’t. Pretty much all of my favourite stuff for the most part I expect to get skipped or acknowledged then avoided, since I’m pretty bleh on Azata as a mythic path. It’s part of why Wrath is cool is that it’s got a broad range of interesting content you actively pick and choose what you want to engage with and it’s hard to do that and actually succeed.
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You also don’t really need a dedicated healer? It’s a nice thing in between fights to heal up but you’re not under much time pressure in this game outside of a few specific bits and actions in combat are usually better used to disable or kill enemies.
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Capfalcon posted:Honestly, I think her "No one is going to save us, so time to roll up our sleeves and do it ourselves" attitude is an interesting twist on her otherwise waif-ish goody two shoes nature. This is what actually makes me like Ember, it's an important additional layer to the character that pulls a lot of weight in making her not feel boring.
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Disco Elysium is still one of the best narratives in the history of video games so I appreciate any reason to think about it.
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I like WotR a lot but it's not even remotely on the same level of writing or narrative quality as Disco. But this isn't the thread to really dig into that.
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Trickster is pretty hit or miss for the narrative, there's some stuff that's really funny and some of the payoffs particularly the ending are excellent, but there's some stuff that falls flat. I still prefer it to Azata overall and it was a fun choice for my first playthrough. It's also insanely fun to play mechanically as it's a contender for strongest mythic path for martial classes and has a few variant builds that are hysterically powerful. Persuasion and Mobility are really goofy with the right builds.
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I enjoyed Trickster as my first run, you just need to be prepared for the fact that your character is going to lean much harder into the Chaotic element of your alignment. You are a weird supernatural force of disorder and status quo upheaval with all that entails rather then any sort of good guy who does a funny trick every once in a while.
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Aeon>Angel>Trickster>Lich>Azata=Demon for me. They’re all better than the late game paths by a noticeable margin, though there’s a decent permutation for Demon that requires a lategame path.
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I mean becoming a Lich isn’t a weapon like a sword or basic spell like magic missile. You are intentionally embracing and wielding one of the most evil cosmic forces in the universe. You can mitigate it to a degree, but if you want that full power you have to dive into it. the actual problem with Lich route is how much you are forced to be a kiss rear end.
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Slaan posted:Nothing makes undeath inherently evil Not the case in the Pathfinder setting unfortunately.
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ProfessorCirno posted:I mean, you absolutely can play off your lich as someone who is tempted into dark powers for a greater good, believing they're doing this for the aforementioned reasons of using the dead to serve against a greater evil. It's a legitimate path in the game. Yeah this is a better worded way to put it then I could do. Lich is about one of two narratives, and if you don't want to engage with those narratives it's not a path you want to play. There isn't a story there for the special hero who can become a Lich with all the perks and none of the downsides. Demon into Legend is the closest you can get to that sort of narrative and is actually pretty cool to do, though it still requires you to make the Legend choice which urgh.
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Yeah Aeon is a lot of fun because it’s not so much about being Judge Dredd as much as it is being an alien cosmic entity.
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Yeah my only actual gripe with Aeon is that it feels pretty weak compared to most of its competition. Angel is death incarnate with a merged spell book and can curbstomp Core into the ground with zero trouble, Lich is the same way. Trickster on a martial can tear basically anything apart in a single round of combat and Demon can stack enough bonuses if you know what you’re doing to alpha strike most things in a single turn. Aeon’s stuff is neat and flavourful but has nowhere near the oomph.
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Even on Angel I hung onto it if I recall because lol galfrey
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Galfrey is a good character but also she needs to get dunked on real hard, even as an Angel.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:they did improve on this in Rogue Trader. if you want to start a romance you've got to positively pursue them, and in several cases pursuing too aggressively is going to immediately stop the whole show This sounds rad, I need to pick up Rogue Trader at some point
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Laezal rules and is probably one of my favourite characters in the entire genre. The speedrun was extra funny since it’s not really out of character for her either.
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I have never done nenios quest and never will. I can deal with all their stuff regarding combat but nenios quest is where I finally drew the line
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God I miss Alpha Protocol.
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Angel is one of the most powerful Mythics and Oracle Angel in particular is a contender for the strongest class in the entire game. You also don’t need to be pro Galfrey or Mendev to play an Angel in character, I didn’t give a poo poo about either and the narrative still functioned perfectly fine.
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I just find her obnoxious so I don't want to use her when I've got several characters to use I actually like. I still usually use her anyway to a degree because she casts Save or Dies real good.
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Regill rules and is very fun. He is easily one of the most memorable party members in the game, probably the most memorable for a lot of people. He is also a horrible person. His build would be pretty horrible most of the time, but you can just slam the rest of his levels into straight Fighter and the game has a fairly large number of gnome hooked hammers clearly made for him to make his build function. He won't be able to do anything but blend whatever the closest target is, but if built properly he will blend through anything he gets to full round attack pretty much as hard and efficiently as you possibly can without Mythic Paths even on Core.
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I find Seelah incredibly boring while Regill is really interesting despite being an infinitely worse person.
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Pun Pun is hilarious but it's basically purely a thought experiment.
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Pillars Paladins are by far the best Paladins I’ve seen in a D&D like and while 5th are good I’m still usually gonna be disappointed by comparison.
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Sosiel can be a little boring, but he has an interesting character arc and some variety into how he can turn out. He’s not up with the top dogs but I like him a lot more then say Seelah or Lann.
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Arue's alright. She's not as interesting as her inspiration but that's a pretty massive bar to reach. She has a really, really good bit of content in a very specific path route. Demon to Legend.
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Yeah I don't really see the comparisons between Arue and Karlach at all. Granted I also like Karlach way, way more then Arue. Arue does get her strong narrative moments though if you take specific Mythic paths and choices. RevolverDivider fucked around with this message at 23:58 on May 16, 2024 |
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