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YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
I think the classical-est music I listen to is background music from Civ IV Beyond the Sword

edit: uuuuuugh what a snipe :cripes:

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Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



Is opera part of classical music or is that a separate category? I dont think I like opera very much but I heard it a lot as a kid because my mom loved it. A few years ago she gave me her entire record collection and theres a ton of mostly Italian opera box sets. Im talking gorgeous boxes of six LPs. Lots of Pavarotti. Ive been meaning to try and dive into this stuff and give it a chance but I dont know where to start and I dont know anything about it. The idea of a piece of music that takes almost an entire day to get through is daunting. I checked out the Barber of Seville because of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd and figaro figaro figaro.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Ralph Hurley posted:

Is opera part of classical music or is that a separate category?

An opera is a specific type of musical theatre. Most famous operas are from the classical period and were written by classical composers and so use those instruments. but they don't have to, people kept on writing operas up until modern times and you can also write an opera that uses e.g. rock instruments. thats probably not going to help you with your italian box set. maybe some wine might tho!

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I listen to classical music mostly as background for work and projects like that. I almost always go for Bach and/or choral stuff, but tbh I dont know as much repertoire as I should / people think I do. I am (or was pre-covid) a choral singer, and theres a whole scene for that, new compositions, world premires, celebrities in that sphere.

Im actually more into medieval and Renaissance stuff. Sometimes you just want to vibe with madrigals

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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Anne Whateley posted:

I listen to classical music mostly as background for work and projects like that. I almost always go for Bach and/or choral stuff, but tbh I dont know as much repertoire as I should / people think I do. I am (or was pre-covid) a choral singer, and theres a whole scene for that, new compositions, world premires, celebrities in that sphere.

Im actually more into medieval and Renaissance stuff. Sometimes you just want to vibe with madrigals

You just reminded me I haven't listened to any motets by Palestrina in a while.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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Dixville posted:

I play classical saxophone sometimes

lol yeah bro I like to honk a sax for a second to two over the course of an hour too

Jelly
Feb 11, 2004

Ask me about my STD collection!
I wasn't going to say anything but I really like the Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves soundtrack.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Here's a quick sampling of modern classical music:


Orchestra

Anna Clyne - Masquerade (2013)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEOchchAuWk

Zhou Long - The Rhyme of Taigu (2022)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8uP-ldAbA

Wind Band

David Maslanka - Symphony No. 4 (1993)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePNJZttpAx0

Steven Bryant - Concerto for Wind Ensemble, Mv. 5 (2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNP6POmNjLs

Choir

Eric Whitacre - Leonardo Dreams of His Flying Machine (2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsLiivVgxmM

Prt Uusber - Ilus Ta Ei Ole (2009)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t9DoJ-02iE

Opera

Philip Glass - "Knee Play 5" from Einstein on the Beach (1976)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjbkg8aNq0

Gregory Spears - "Quite a View" from Fellow Travelers (2016)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6aUA94Fpc

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


I listen to classical (in the broad sense) and opera occasionally but those pieces are often too much of a time commitment for me. I wouldn't mind taking in more though.

My favorite piece by far is Danse Macabre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6TPgwy-nRk

Jelly
Feb 11, 2004

Ask me about my STD collection!

ultrafilter posted:

I listen to classical (in the broad sense) and opera occasionally but those pieces are often too much of a time commitment for me. I wouldn't mind taking in more though.

My favorite piece by far is Danse Macabre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6TPgwy-nRk
Also a very cool non-fiction book by Stephen King so I imagine he must be a fan as well

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
I do when I need to focus on something. I'm doing it right now in fact!

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
the nice thing about classical is you can have tastes in classical that are basic as hell like me but still sound educated and fancy

to wit, this is my favorite orchestral piece, my favorite piano piece is clair de lune which someone already mentioned, debussy and just impressionism in general are great. I think I saw on a list this was the 2nd most performed orchestral piece in the world in 2022 or something but I mean whatever it still slaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGOihjqO9w

the main downside of classical to me is that there's a bunch of pieces that I like but sometimes you just want to listen to the really pretty part and there's like 20 other minutes that are all chaotic or dissonant or otherwise don't have nearly the same vibe (tchaikovsky piano concerto 1 is a good example of this)

I was already used to this somewhat from listening to a lot of prog rock in my teens but sometimes it makes it a bummer


oh here is another really good famous classical bop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY4w4_W30aQ

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Feb 11, 2024

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Ralph Hurley posted:

Is opera part of classical music or is that a separate category? I dont think I like opera very much but I heard it a lot as a kid because my mom loved it. A few years ago she gave me her entire record collection and theres a ton of mostly Italian opera box sets. Im talking gorgeous boxes of six LPs. Lots of Pavarotti. Ive been meaning to try and dive into this stuff and give it a chance but I dont know where to start and I dont know anything about it. The idea of a piece of music that takes almost an entire day to get through is daunting. I checked out the Barber of Seville because of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd and figaro figaro figaro.

hi opera singer here

what kind of opera you like depends on what other kind of classical/not classical music you like and what you value in a piece of music. opera can be a really hard sell to people, especially mid-18th and early-19th century opera, because the drama is in a lot of cases subservient to the musical form and style of the day. a great example of this is Handel operas, which mostly conform to story-aria-story-aria-story-aria all the way through because that's Just How You Wrote Back Then. opera got a lot better once it started being able to have more than one soloist go at a time, imo!

commonly suggested "starter" operas are La traviata by Verdi, which by today's standards is a stuffy period drama but which has lots of catchy tunes in it, Le nozze di Figaro by Mozart, which is loooong and can be hard to follow, but has lots of fun characters, Carmen by Bizet, which has some of the most famous pieces in opera and which is a genuine thrill ride the whole way through, and La boheme by Puccini, which is okay I guess. i also recommend gilbert and sullivan for new opera fans - sullivan uses a lot of early-mid 19th century opera composers (Rossini, Donizetti, Offenbach) as the basis for his musical parody.

but there's more to opera than just pretty tunes! Puccini's Tosca is a gripping melodrama, Berg's Wozzcek is extremely dissonant and dark and depressing, Britten's The Turn of the Screw is both a creepy ghost story and a monument to the expressive power of variation form, and Peter Ash's The Golden Ticket is a funny and downright strange take on the classic Willy Wonka story. i truly believe there's an opera out there to suit anyone's taste. this is an open invitation: tell me what you like in music and I'll give you a few recommendations!

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

nice obelisk idiot posted:

That's very interesting XYZAB. Somewhat related to that, I've found that Schumann can be unsettling to me, and I think that it's related to his very likely bipolar disorder. Almost like my brain starts churning like Schumann's brain a bit.

seconded, i think since Schumann is so canonized a lot of classical music people are sorta numb to how Weird he can get

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



I find the classical orchestral instruments themselves fascinating and the history of how they were developed and how the accepted shapes and sounds of them came to be over time. Especially when you end up with freak instruments like sub-contrabassoons and the octobass that you need to climb a stepladder to play and sounds like a farting elephant.


https://youtu.be/Vc-RWrWxaCw?si=5uIJRoR3JRYL-Ph_

https://youtu.be/gMoOhCh_GUM?si=oe1id2tcIIbyRZii

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Hasturtium posted:

I fell down a wormhole with Hildegard von Bingen a few years ago. This was a surprise to me as much as anyone - Im an agnostic who mostly listens to ambient, house, electronica, metal, and future bass - but Bingen made beautiful music. Its about time I dive back into her work again, but I will happily take suggestions on other medieval classical composers.

Or to step into modern classical. Yes, I like Philip Glass.

i'm not religious either but liturgical music can go really hard when it wants to

i'm really in to late 19th and early 20th century Anglican music, like Charles Villiers Stanford and Herbert Howells. I think Saint-Saens also wrote some great sacred music. and of course there's the verdi requiem for ultimate head-banging pleasure

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



saladscooper posted:

hi opera singer here

what kind of opera you like depends on what other kind of classical/not classical music you like and what you value in a piece of music. opera can be a really hard sell to people, especially mid-18th and early-19th century opera, because the drama is in a lot of cases subservient to the musical form and style of the day. a great example of this is Handel operas, which mostly conform to story-aria-story-aria-story-aria all the way through because that's Just How You Wrote Back Then. opera got a lot better once it started being able to have more than one soloist go at a time, imo!

commonly suggested "starter" operas are La traviata by Verdi, which by today's standards is a stuffy period drama but which has lots of catchy tunes in it, Le nozze di Figaro by Mozart, which is loooong and can be hard to follow, but has lots of fun characters, Carmen by Bizet, which has some of the most famous pieces in opera and which is a genuine thrill ride the whole way through, and La boheme by Puccini, which is okay I guess. i also recommend gilbert and sullivan for new opera fans - sullivan uses a lot of early-mid 19th century opera composers (Rossini, Donizetti, Offenbach) as the basis for his musical parody.

but there's more to opera than just pretty tunes! Puccini's Tosca is a gripping melodrama, Berg's Wozzcek is extremely dissonant and dark and depressing, Britten's The Turn of the Screw is both a creepy ghost story and a monument to the expressive power of variation form, and Peter Ash's The Golden Ticket is a funny and downright strange take on the classic Willy Wonka story. i truly believe there's an opera out there to suit anyone's taste. this is an open invitation: tell me what you like in music and I'll give you a few recommendations!

Thanks for this! Im not home today but later on I might share a few pictures of some of the box sets. Im sure some of the ones you mentioned are there. They all have booklets in them explaining the story and stuff.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

this is my favorite work for string quartet, well outside of the Classical period but also no longer modern, but imo still incredibly gripping and for being purely acoustic instruments its far heavier than a lot of music with distortion and amplifcation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjvTTfbpWjY

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




XYZAB posted:



When I die I want Jupiter played at my funeral.

I was second alto sax in my middle school concert band and we performed Jupiter for some impressive statewide competition.

Probably the toughest thing I've ever played.

I will never not love it.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Classical Gas,
Classical Grass or
Classical rear end

Nobody rides, smokes or fucks for free.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

wesleywillis posted:


Classical rear end


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toAxfm1eq5w

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here
I used to listen to classical music but then I blew up The Institute and the classical radio station with it.

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

It's worth mentioning that there's also a long history of classical electronic music, such as tape music and musique concrte, computer music, electro-acoustic music, etc.

Karlheinz Stockhausen - Studie II (1954)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwj6ZptPnDo

Barry Truax Riverrun (1986)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81IGEFt7dM

Paul Lansky - Notjustmoreidlechatter (1994)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HGAsvl53eQ

As you get deeper into it, you start moving into the realm of installations and sound sculptures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP36xoPXDnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDjn1-Sw8As

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1e6DWSnqpI

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I listen to Howard Shores Lord of the Rings soundtrack, and Ive listened to a few famous pieces while on acid - Holsts Planets was pretty amazing.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Speaking of modern composers, I enjoy David Bruce's ongoing youtube project of trying to make the work of a composer for classical orchestra more approachable and interesting for the rest of us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrjuyXfLD6s

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074121/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_5_nm_3_q_allegro

the bolero sequence is pretty absurd and fun if memory serves

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Yeah, but mainly classics so no new stuff. Have any bandcamp links or recommendations?

Like this:

Loden Taylor posted:

Here's a quick sampling of modern classical music:


Orchestra

Anna Clyne - Masquerade (2013)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEOchchAuWk

Zhou Long - The Rhyme of Taigu (2022)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8uP-ldAbA

Wind Band

David Maslanka - Symphony No. 4 (1993)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePNJZttpAx0

Steven Bryant - Concerto for Wind Ensemble, Mv. 5 (2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNP6POmNjLs

Choir

Eric Whitacre - Leonardo Dreams of His Flying Machine (2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsLiivVgxmM

Pärt Uusber - Ilus Ta Ei Ole (2009)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t9DoJ-02iE

Opera

Philip Glass - "Knee Play 5" from Einstein on the Beach (1976)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjbkg8aNq0

Gregory Spears - "Quite a View" from Fellow Travelers (2016)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6aUA94Fpc

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
Lotta classical music in bideo game also I think

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
a great exposure to classical music is to watch the 80s anime Legend of Galactic Heroes

the entire soundtrack is public domain classical and it rules

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
I listen to a fair bit of classical music. It's probably pretty cliche but the piece that really made me pay attention when I was in my late teens was the rite of spring, which still for being composed in 1912 you can hear phrases and patterns which if transposed to different instruments would sound like so many modern genres and ideas.
I think it's a great entry point, especially if your usual music taste leans a little counter culture.

Lots of great recommendations in the thread.
And I am also frustrated by there being too much dynamic range in recordings.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

I remember once noodling around on the Wood Carving Partita in the high school orchestra room with some friends and acquaintances. It didnt sound half bad for an hour of playing by ear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BSwW9T4W2w

No harpsichord, though; just a grand piano.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I like a lot of classical.

This is my favorite classical piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41IOkVjy3MM

(the whole album this is just a great part)


this is number 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaYWy3eHtCM


oh, and this I guess. is this classical?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTwoMGCtPT8

oh, also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Jiyxu_HH4

Aliensandwich
Jan 21, 2024
My parents were both highly educated musicians, so I grew up with a lot of classical, Jazz, and a lot of Medieval stuff. I never went the musician route myself, but I do appreciate some classical radio on a lazy rainy day.

Fantastic background music. Nothin like some haunting Gregorian chants during a game of 40k

Aliensandwich fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Feb 12, 2024

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

nah i dont even pretend to

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I like debussy. Everyone wants that bussy

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Treecko posted:

Twinkle twinkle little star

I kid.

You might be kidding, but Mozart wasn't (Mozart was absolutely kidding)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS7yiD6cz8A

cuter video below but not enabled for embedding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezvj-De6bxY

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Speaking of Mozart, The Pope decided Allegri's Miserere mei Deus was too beautiful to allow the common folk to listen to, and forbade it to be published. This drove up demand for access to the Sistine Chapel Tenebrae services as a handy side effect.

he was right about the beautiful part, anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX1zicNRLmY

Anyways, Mozart heard it while touring Rome at 14. He then proceeded to transcribe the whole thing, later, from memory. Eventually giving it to a publisher who released the song to public.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




redshirt posted:

What's that classical piece that's in a lot of movies about the devil and Satan? It's big and loud.

Verdi's Dies irae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-PXcTxLkuQ


sometimes (Disney's Fantasia) Modest Mussorgsky's A night on Bald Mountain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fizh0M8TczA

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Dixville posted:

I play classical saxophone sometimes and even I don't listen to it on my own accord unless I'm trying to learn something. I know people attend concerts but it pretty much has to be either they know someone in the band or its a super famous one. I think it's mostly old people that still listen to it. Anybody wanna prove me wrong? Everyone here is old now so maybe someone's kid listens to it?

Actually, between TikTok and Spotify it's probably more likely a bunch of kids out there have favorite Classical pieces they like than 10 years ago.

Like my kids listen to 60's soul, '70s funk, and '80s pop just because of memes, Hell, my wife knows a bunch of Classical stuff because the Piano Guys were big on YouTube back when that was a thing.

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yugioh mishima
Oct 22, 2020

redshirt posted:

Dumb question perhaps: Is there an active scene of new classical music? People making it, and people listening to it? Going to concerts?

one of my friends from school is a classical composer. like, thats his job and he makes a reasonable living from it and he wins awards and poo poo. its funny to me because i remember him better as a true kvlt black metal kind of guy

anyway i still sometimes listen to classical myself, my fav kind is old stuff that uses more unconventional tonality like carlo gesualdo (who also famously murdered his wife after finding her in bed with another man) or the ars subtilior, who were some french guys doing super weird poo poo in the 1300s:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rH2a-rg6Y

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