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going to continue doing direct action of feeding the hungry in my area and helping them get geds, and protest voting against genociders and rapists (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2024 19:52 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 19:19 |
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volts5000 posted:This whole discussion is just focused on us as individuals. As if our decision to vote blue/third party/not at all only effects us individually. "What is the burden that I have to bear? How can I and I alone change the system? Maybe if I opt out, the system will crash. Then I will have done a good deed." A business doesn't close because "you" stopped shopping there. A labor union doesn't collapse because "you" decided you didn't want to pay your dues. A pandemic didn't spread because "you" didn't wear a mask. It was a collective action.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 20:01 |
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volts5000 posted:Because there's no talk of collectivizing. What organization are we forming? How are we making our demands known to the political parties? There's none of that! It's just people saying "Oh I'm totally voting for Cornel West. That'll show 'em!" more serious, i do explain my reasoning and the problems as i see them to whoever will listen to me at the food bank before and after we hand food out
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 20:11 |
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the trolley problem falls apart when you add "derail this murderous train. my god why won't the engineer slow down?!" as a potential option
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 20:43 |
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im saying that its worthless to drag out that loving powersliding train in a vacuum argument because we are not bound by it
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 20:48 |
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ill respond later, getting busy with life, aint ignoring you
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 21:31 |
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i will vote for those who pass a minimum threshold of behavior and policies. biden has not done that because of the same reason i gave in 2020. i believe him to be a credibly accused rapist/sexual assualter and i will not put my support behind that. it is a hard line ive drawn and i will not cross it
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 17:44 |
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those fall under the minimum as well, it's just i had already made that decision back in 2020 and everything else is just extra on the poo poo pile
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 18:22 |
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Eiba posted:I guess I don't see a vote as an endorsement, rather it's a tool. You have a (very small) ability to steer the course of events. I don't want to overstate the importance of that- your individual influence is negligible, and voting is very definitely not enough on its own if you want the world to be less lovely, but it's also not more than that if i went to he food bank i volunteer at on election day instead of voting i would have done more to make the world a better place that day
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 18:58 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 19:19 |
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yes, i think who you endores to be a leader above you is more significant than it seems you do we probably won't find common ground on this
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 19:10 |