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Game theory requires that I never vote because it is almost statistically impossible that my individual vote will make the difference and the cost of my time is too high. But, if everyone knew that, then it would become a collective action problem. So, the most optimal form of electoralism is to not vote, but strongly encourage everyone else to vote for their preferred candidate. The ideal scenario is 99.99% turnout with you as the sole abstention.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 15:48 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 00:00 |
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We have already solved the problem of electoralism with math. Game theory dictates that your individual vote will have an almost statistically non-existent chance to impact the outcome of the election, but if everyone acts that way it becomes a collective action problem that does impact the outcome. Therefore, the only solution is to encourage everyone else to vote, do whatever you want on election day, and don't let anyone else know what you did. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 03:40 |
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I was following you up until this point, because "I would prefer the outcome where all trans medicine and civil rights will be banned because Biden has released legal reforms that protect the legal rights of trans people in all areas except for public school athletics (which he has said will be coming separately, but hasn't been released yet)" is a really weird conclusion to reach following the statement "I care about trans rights."
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 20:15 |
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If I were deciding how to vote, then I would simply assess the policies of the two candidates and then select the one whose overall platform is closer to my preference. For example, if you considered Sonia Sotomayor a better Justice than Clarence Thomas, then I would vote for the candidate who would appoint more justices like Sonia Sotomayor to replace her and not the candidate that would replace her with someone more like Clarence Thomas.
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 20:41 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't care how other people plan to vote, but I do find it disturbing that there doesn't seem to be any lower bound for voting for the lesser evil. And there's a pretty obvious trend of having to accept greater and greater evil for that strategy, to the absurd point where we're arguing over whether it's acceptable to vote for the guy who is literally funding a genocide. I really don't think that can be stressed enough. What are you going to be asked to support in 2028, as long as the other guy is worse? What are you willing to support? Is there ever going to be a point where both parties are too repugnant to vote for? Joe Biden and Donald Trump will be the nominees in the 2024 election in America. If either of them had lost the primary, then there would be different nominees. You should generally vote for the outcome that will more closely match with your preferred outcome. If you think Donald Trump's policies are closer to your preferences, then you should probably vote for Donald Trump for President in 2024. If you think Joe Biden's policies are closer to your preferences, then you should probably vote for Joe Biden. If you aren't sure, then an easy heuristic that I use is to read their positions on various issues, count the ones for each candidate that are closer to my preferences, and then select the one with the higher number. It seems very unlikely that both candidates have an equal number of issues that are identical to your preferred outcome, but if that is the case, then you can either flip a coin or not vote at all because each outcome will literally result is as many issues being equally as close to your preferred outcome as the other. There will be upcoming primaries for President that will begin in 2027 and many state issues (such as ballot measures and local elections) that will occur in 2024, 2026, and 2028 (or 2025 if you live in New Jersey or Virginia). For those, I generally follow a similar heuristic process. In 2028, I will likely cast a vote in the primary for the candidate that most closely matches my preferred policy outcomes to assist them in securing the nomination. Regardless, you can probably rest easy because your individual vote is not a moral act and has an incredibly statistically improbably chance of being the sole vote responsible for changing an outcome, so you will only be making a difference in a collective action context. Your vote, regardless of who it is for, will also not preclude you from participating in public life in other ways, so there isn't any concern about an opportunity cost or zero-sum choice between voting or other activities. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:29 on May 9, 2024 |
# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:25 |