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echinopsis posted:it’s like the computer is afraid to use more than 32gb honestly I don’t think Ive seen it more than once which was when I tried to render a 4k image at 1000% resolution lol casually trying to render an 803mp image
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echinopsis posted:do I have to trial this in bios or can I use the amd in-windows tool the best/easiest way to do this is to pay yuri bubly for the hydra pro software at his patreon, https://www.patreon.com/1usmus, and just run it following the instructions also on said patreon. it also has a RAM overclocking function and can do some with the GPU.
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Branch Nvidian posted:for the best performance you're going to want a 3600MHz kit so the infinity fabric interconnect between your cpu chiplets can run at 1800MHz, and a cas latency of 16 or better, so something like 16-16-16-36 will really squeeze all the performance you can out of the system is it possible for me to get some kind of idea of performance jump? how would I work that out tbh i’m mostly daydreaming here. IF i could sell 64gb and get 32gb or something better AND the performance boost was noticeable i’d look at it but otherwise i’m not looking to spend any money lol
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I have a threadripper and it’s perfectly good I actually need to upgrade my dogshit gpu
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echinopsis posted:is it possible for me to get some kind of idea of performance jump? how would I work that out it's gonna depend on exactly what you're running now and what your subtimings currently are today will be the day echi discovers he never enabled xmp
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the gently caress is xmp lol
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lol I gently caress around in bios whenever I get a new pc and if something seems good I turn it on and vice versa and then a year later learn I did something backwards
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echinopsis posted:the gently caress is xmp lol boot into your bios and what is the RAM profile set to? "Default" or something like "XMP," "DOCP," "EOCP," "EXPO"? ddr4 memory runs at a jedec standard speed of like 2133MHz. the kits we buy that say 3200MHz or 3600MHz means they're tested and rated to run overclocked at those speeds and come preloaded with a full set of timings and subtimings to run at those advertised speeds. if you don't turn on xmp/docp/etc. though it just runs at 2133
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when I get home from work i’ll check
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Oh yeah for blendering you could probably do a little better these days. but it looks like to cut your render time in half that you'd have to lay out $1k nzd. and buy a new board and ram. really genuinely worth it? as far as undervolting, yeah. its the modern overclock. cpus and gpus will boost clock until they hit thermal limits these days. The idea is to run lower voltage to the chip, but not so low that it stops CPU'ing. undervolting has a squared effect because current consumption also goes down when you do that. so pulling numbers out of my absolute rear end: if a transistor on a cpu normally runs at say 1.2v at 2 nanoamps it generates 2.4 nanowatts of heat if you cut the voltage by 10% to 1.08v, it now draws 1.8 nanoamps and generates 1.95 nanowatts of heat, a 19% reduction in TDP. So the chip runs cooler and says to itself "we can clock higher." "why don't they do this at the factory then why the 1.2v default" everybody asks. Cause they spec them on the 'won't crash' safe side, and that's a voltage a hair above what they successfully stress tested the chip at on a $39 shenzhen dogshit motherboard that they buried in mud for a week. Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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thanks for that, makes sense and yeah seeing as I just do blender for fun there’s no real use spending more money, it’s pretty fine as it is
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echinopsis posted:thanks for that, makes sense you definitely should make sure your ram is running at the appropriate speed though because otherwise your computer is running considerably worse than it otherwise should be another buddy of mine had his pcie bandwidth turned down for some reason so he was only getting x4 instead of the full x16 for his gpu, which was resulting in super lovely performance that he couldn't figure out
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my bios blinked and took my 3200 ddr4 down to that jedec bullshit. i noticed my ffxiv fps was low, and after going back and resetting it to 3200 i went from like 90 fps back up to the 144 i'm used to that ram speed is v important.
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Jonny 290 posted:my bios blinked and took my 3200 ddr4 down to that jedec bullshit. i noticed my ffxiv fps was low, and after going back and resetting it to 3200 i went from like 90 fps back up to the 144 i'm used to worried the graphical update is going to put me below 240 fps and drive me crazy
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every time my game pc gets put into sleep mode i come back and the poo poo won't break 35fps in Limsa. the accepted solution for this so far across the internets is "don't put your computer into sleep and then try to play a game." the only fix for me is a gpu driver reinstall. its so dumb. or just never sleep it. but thats annoying. it SHOULD work.
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i just let my monitor shut off but the system itself stays on constantly
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i got da need..... da need, for weed 
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Look, I need you to 'not' right now.
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well, thanks to this thread i apparently finally configured my memory appropriately after 4 years, christ. thanks!
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finally got home and checking my settings and lol there’s not an obvious setting for memory profile but I can see I’ve got the ram set to 2700mhz lmao imm run a test scene in blender as a benchmark then change it is it possible that you could set something in bios and make the system so unstable you can’t get back into bios anymore? as in, does bios run everything at the most basic speeds etc to make itself stable? many moons ago I remember doing this and having to use some jumpers to reset the bios .. is this a risk a person takes if they try hitting too-high speeds on the ram or undervolting ?
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echinopsis posted:finally got home and checking my settings and lol there’s not an obvious setting for memory profile but I can see I’ve got the ram set to 2700mhz lmao you can just remove the cmos battery or short the “clear cmos” jumpers if you have those (or press the clear cmos button if your board is fancy enough to have one) I strongly suggest using the automatic undervolt/overclock utility I linked earlier since it hooks into the bios settings via AMD’s software and will revert if it detects instability. the bios will run at whatever settings you tell it to run at. if it’s unstable and won’t load it has built-in defaults that it will reset to when cmos is cleared if you can tell me what brand and more specifically what model motherboard you have I can tell you exactly how to enable comp Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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this is the bios for gigabyte’s aorus sub-brand, in “advanced mode.” you go to “Extreme Memory Profile,” hit enter, select “Profile 1,” make sure the FCLK Frequency is half the memory frequency, then save and reboot 
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Mods please rename thread "I need help with my RAM clocks"
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sorry for derailing this, as much as this thread can be derailed, lol
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i thought this thread was for what u need when u need it. if u have 2 ask ASK
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discovered it’s called docp in amd land not xmp. I found it just crashed windows. lmao
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echinopsis posted:discovered it’s called docp in amd land not xmp. I found it docp is the "standard" name while xmp is the intel brand-name, but like so many things the brand-name is what caught on for most people and so a lot of board makers just use "xmp" on everything regardless of amd or intel
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No shade, this is hella informative. Threads title can get the word out. Sorry about your OG thread idea and windows crashing OP
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echinopsis posted:discovered it’s called docp in amd land not xmp. I found it change it back if it continues crashing, though it shouldn't
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Branch Nvidian posted:change it back if it continues crashing, though it shouldn't i used ctr cos the hydra download link isn’t working it defo made the fan run less before it crashed lol mem speed didn’t do much at all to render time will revisit undervolting echinopsis fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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echinopsis posted:i used cyr cos the hydra download link isn’t working brother, enable the docp setting in your bios first before trying to uv/oc. and assuming you mean ctr and not cyr, that's for older ryzen chips hydra requires subscribing to the guy's patreon, and is actually maintained and updated versus the older ctr software Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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Branch Nvidian posted:brother, enable the docp setting in your bios first before trying to uv/oc. and assuming you mean ctr and not cyr, that's for older ryzen chips i did the docp ill try n find the hydra
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echinopsis posted:i did the docp https://www.patreon.com/1usmus
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i need to SLEEP i havent slept well since 2012 when my daughter was diagnosed type1 diabetic several years of setting alarms to wake up every 90 minutes at night to verify blood sugar for a kid in elementary school has hosed me up pretty bad. shes on a cgm now so we have not had to do that for a while, but i might be permanently broken. i used to sleep like rip van winkle. any time, any place, out like a light for as long as i needed. now my wife tells me she thinks i do not sleep at all as far as she can tell. at any time of night she can ask me whatever and ill answer. i know i must be getting sleep because im not dead. at least i dont think im dead. i think id feel more rested if i was. who can say, really.
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fresh_cheese posted:i need to SLEEP do a sleep study. if you’ve got apnea a cpap will change your life. changed mine
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Branch Nvidian posted:do a sleep study. if you’ve got apnea a cpap will change your life. changed mine hmmmmmm the good: sleep. also darth vader noises the bad: i cannot sleep on my back. cant. …. maybe youre on to something…..
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fresh_cheese posted:hmmmmmm I’m a side sleeper, and the cloak still works in that position too. seriously, get a sleep study done
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Branch Nvidian posted:I’m a side sleeper, and the cloak still works in that position too. seriously, get a sleep study done note. tooooo. self. sleeeeeep. studyyy….. but nooooot daay beeefour. colonoscopy. my brother is narcoleptic. the dichotomy amuses me.
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