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I bought a 3D printer on Amazon sale and a new timesink hobby has been unlocked. Trying to resist the urge to print a ton of poo poo that I will never get around to painting. I decided to start with this lil man. 
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Thanks, it's interesting to hear other people's perspectives. While they're of course better than anything I'll ever do, it's nice to see some of these details and think about how to apply the concepts some day. It's interesting to me that something so important at higher levels of execution is a bit at odds with intro-mini-painting advice, namely how there's so much emphasis on a "base, shade, and highlight" approach to painting including slap chop, zenithal highlighting, contrast paints etc. that it almost teaches you not to create areas of focus on the model. e: came across a video but lost the link of a pro painter commenting on the GD entries, and one painting element here they called out was that some of the organic elements of the vampire transition too abruptly/don't carry through as far as they should. Particularly the purple tones at the joints In vaguely-related beginner painter news, color is weird. I'm planning out the colors to use for my first OSL/Grisaille-esque outing and have learned that a number of my intuitions were very wrong. What I thought were shades of yellow are entirely different hues all at the same value, and the actual shades of yellow are different varieties of olive. I somehow thought this while also knowing the contradictory fact that red + yellow = orange. Bark! A Vagrant fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Mar 30, 2024 05:35
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Marco Frisoni applies a lot of his fine art experience into his models and he talks a lot about model painting from that point of view. I can't tell you exactly where he talks about what so I guess you should just watch his entire channel! Less jokingly he does talk a lot about playing with contrast and saturation as well as texture. He'll use rougher brush strokes on cloth or leather so they look like they feel different to the touch from metal or space marine ceramite. It's very much not "base, shade and highlight" but that's because those people are teaching basic painting to get a good result for tabletop gaming. Even if someone isn't explicitly using fine art techniques on their model to produce a display piece a skilled "model painter" is still operating under the same principles of light and colour as anyone else.
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Mar 30, 2024 05:40
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I know people hate the painting phase guys, but the person they interviewed sounds incredibly creative and artistically talented https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fr7Z5R6nw. So it was very interesting to listen to him and how he works. There are "art techniques" but the big part is also thinking about things differently. He's a sculptor and one of the big things I got from his that you need to work with your medium, for organic, smooth, and round objects it's easier to work with putty when it's soft and malleable to produce the desired effect. And the opposite is true for inorganic, a harder putty that dried provides the sharper edges and planes to create that perception. It's not some incredible revelation or anything, but you could also probably figure these things out on your own when you spent enough time hobbying stuff and your brain isn't constantly occupied with simply getting the basics of shadow and light correctly.
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Mar 30, 2024 07:21
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Wow! I just did the lighter trick on the metal nozzle of this citadel glue. You guys weren't kidding! It worked out great!
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Mar 30, 2024 07:57
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Starting progress    I see I need to brighten the area to the right of his outstretched leg a bit, and do something about the back side. I want to capture two light sources: the lantern with a yellow/orangey light and a much paler moonlight. My initial plan was to use greys for the moonlight, but from my initial attempt (not pictured) getting the greys bright enough to see contrast requires a much brighter grey than I want, and what you see pictured was trying to step up from pure black to very dark grey (with a patch hit with a contrast blue to see what it'd look like). Looking at a couple reference pictures of people carrying lanterns at night, I think I need to work with desaturated blues instead of greys.
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Mar 31, 2024 02:58
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Lostconfused posted:I know people hate the painting phase guys, but the person they interviewed sounds incredibly creative and artistically talented https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fr7Z5R6nw. So it was very interesting to listen to him and how he works. Yeah, Valbjorn is awesome and not click-baity. I support him on Patreon, especially since Space Wolves are my main army.
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Mar 31, 2024 03:20
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The true servant of Chaos is the wind patterns that manage to gust at the exact moments when I push the spray button on my spray primer can.
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Mar 31, 2024 22:52
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He is r- oh. False alarm, it's just a bunch of mari lwyd jokers in the graveyard again.  I can see a hundred tiny flaws but you have to tie it off sometime. And I'm pretty happy with this little Underworlds team.
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Apr 1, 2024 01:22
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   Dusted off the cobwebs and had a crack at some Shatterpoint models tonight. I had a blast painting the slightly larger scale.
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Apr 1, 2024 12:27
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The stormtroopers look great! What was your process for the white?
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Apr 1, 2024 12:58
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Dead white through the airbrush. Soulblight grey shade. Then Corax white on the raised/flat areas for cleanup and then dead white edge highlights. Only thing to watch is that corax white is very unforgiving so you really need to thin it and let it dry before you come back to it, else you'll get lumps/streaks.
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Apr 1, 2024 13:14
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I have gotten to the point we all eventually get to, perhaps sitting with a power drill in one hand, and a bottle of paint in the other, trying to figure out how to macgyver a vortex mixer
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Apr 1, 2024 13:23
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I don’t get too much time to sit in my paint corner right now, but I think I’m more or less done poking at this guy. Need to do the base now. Really regretting attaching him to the base before doing that.  
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Apr 1, 2024 14:10
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tehsid posted:
Nice! Shatterpoint is interesting, as they are in fact, a larger scale, but they have realistic proportions, so in some ways, parts of them are actually smaller than 28mm GW stuff.
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Apr 1, 2024 16:30
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Shatterpoint Grievous' head is smaller than his Legion one. The legion model looks awful mind.
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Apr 1, 2024 17:38
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I'm really happy with how this turned out!   Inspired by  abs yeah that's gonna be the theme for my underworld set
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Apr 1, 2024 23:32
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Bohemian Nights posted:I have gotten to the point we all eventually get to, perhaps Don't do it man... it's only $40 for a vortex mixer: https://www.amazon.com/LABFISH-Vortex-Function-Stainless-Acrylic/dp/B0BWDH285V and like $10 for a pack of hematite beads
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Apr 2, 2024 00:11
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Bohemian Nights posted:I have gotten to the point we all eventually get to, perhaps I would just buy the vortex mixer, but if you have a stubborn paint and need something in the meantime you could use a ziptie to secure the paint to the outside of a hole saw drill bit, if the bit has holes. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftu5UWoI_Rc
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I would just buy the vortex mixer, but if you have a stubborn paint and need something in the meantime you could use a ziptie to secure the paint to the outside of a hole saw drill bit, if the bit has holes. Tape the lid closed, chuck it in the dryer on a no-heat cycle. Do all of them at once for extra agitation.
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Apr 2, 2024 05:07
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I would just buy the vortex mixer, but if you have a stubborn paint and need something in the meantime you could use a ziptie to secure the paint to the outside of a hole saw drill bit, if the bit has holes. 
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Apr 2, 2024 08:30
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The first prototype consisted of an empty cardboard roll of toilet paper and copious amounts of electrical tape- it was a resounding success on my horrible wraithbone pot, but the risk of painting my entire living room with citadel paints in an expressionist style possibly outweighs the benefits of a perfectly mixed pot..Eej posted:Don't do it man... it's only $40 for a vortex mixer: https://www.amazon.com/LABFISH-Vortex-Function-Stainless-Acrylic/dp/B0BWDH285V This is probably the right call, but I live somewhere with insane import tax, so that mixer would probably end up costing closer to $80, as I've been unable to find any domestic vendors- even looked for some nail polish shakers, but same deal there
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Apr 2, 2024 09:05
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Ominous Jazz posted:I'm really happy with how this turned out! kick-rear end scheme for a kick-rear end team
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Apr 2, 2024 09:46
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Eej posted:Don't do it man... it's only $40 for a vortex mixer: https://www.amazon.com/LABFISH-Vortex-Function-Stainless-Acrylic/dp/B0BWDH285V Do you need the beads for the mixer to work? I'm a bit leery of beads as I suspect they're going to jam my droppers.
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Apr 2, 2024 09:59
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Z the IVth posted:Do you need the beads for the mixer to work? I'm a bit leery of beads as I suspect they're going to jam my droppers. No, a vortex mixer will work without any kind agitator in the pot, but it works better and quicker with than without. And you dont have to worry much about them jamming the droppers tbh, just hold the bottle so its at a slight angle instead of at 90 degrees to your desk and its pretty much a non issue. Obviously if you squeeze and nothing comes out stop squeezing until you've investigated just in case, but thats already true for clogged nozzles too.
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Apr 2, 2024 10:29
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Z the IVth posted:Do you need the beads for the mixer to work? I'm a bit leery of beads as I suspect they're going to jam my droppers. You don't need the beads, though they also aren't going to jam your droppers. Plus if they somehow did you could unjam them with a paperclip end in about two seconds. Progress shot current then before:  Messy, but the back feels like it's trending in the right direction. Before was dark blue-grey with black shadows; the current one mixes the dark blue-grey with crimson/purple for the shadows, dark blue-grey and dark blue-grey mixed with a saturated blue for the mid-tones, and a blue-grey mixed with a bit of a saturated blue for the highlights.
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Apr 2, 2024 10:38
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I got the beads for Scale 75 paints cause they're basically goop in there. Don't need em for anything else that I've seen.
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Apr 2, 2024 14:09
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Need is relative, stuff rolling around on the bottom of the bottle helps pickup whatever pigment or medium settled there. You know like the white stuff that tends to settles at the bottom of citadel contrast paints.
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Apr 2, 2024 15:26
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Crosspostin'Safety Factor posted:Finished up my first batch of chaos warriors over the weekend. My original test model was really helpful and I was able to modify the scheme a bit to get it where I wanted. For example, I pushed the contrast in the metallics a bit more and deepened the shadows on the cloaks. I was aiming for something I could knock out relatively quickly. There's a fair bit of drybrushing here - the cloaks especially. I still took some time to wet blend things like the horns and the color change on the banner. Speaking of which, I took my first real shot at freehanding on this banner which was definitely a learning experience. So without further ado, here are the models:
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Apr 2, 2024 15:30
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That blue is beautiful mate. How did you achieve it?
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Apr 2, 2024 15:44
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buncha 6mm stuff battlemechs!         medina shops from the lazy forger     gas tank from the lazy forger   scum tanks from iliada games    sand cat from iliada games    ram wagon from the lazy forger     
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Apr 2, 2024 16:35
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I'll be the dissenting voice and say yes, you do need the mixing balls for most acrylic paints. The difference in effectiveness and required duration for all but the thinnest of airpaints is drastic.
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Apr 2, 2024 16:37
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I'm going to make an order from Pro Acryl because their titanium white is so well regarded and nobody stocks it locally. Are there any other colors from their line that are must-haves?
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Apr 2, 2024 17:24
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Kylaer posted:I'm going to make an order from Pro Acryl because their titanium white is so well regarded and nobody stocks it locally. Are there any other colors from their line that are must-haves? If they sell it separately, the Payne's Grey from Vince's set and the Dark Jade from his set as well. In fact, just get the whole set because every paint in it is a banger.
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Apr 2, 2024 17:31
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Can confirm it’s good paint. Just don’t thin it much - it comes pretty good from the bottle as Doobie said
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Apr 2, 2024 17:33
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It's also very hydrophilic, so I have actually been keeping a double layer of parchment on part of my wet palette for those to live. But I'm a bad person who keeps them on there and tries using paints far past when I should, so grain of salt.
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Nessus posted:Can confirm it’s good paint. Just don’t thin it much - it comes pretty good from the bottle as Doobie said  I hate thinning so this is a big plus. I know it's easy but it fills me with the feeling that I'm not going to be able to make it consistent batch to batch.
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Apr 2, 2024 17:41
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Kylaer posted:
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Of parchment on the pallet I mean
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