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Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Jonny Nox posted:

Box in your closet

I endorse this. I have a set of hand made traditional oils that probably have a value around $3k and I keep them in a very large tupperware in a closet.

Do not worry, I did not pay nearly that much for them. I got an insane deal on them when a friend was moving his art store. I've got like ~500ml of genuine ultramarine, 50ml of mercury red, almost a litre of various cadmium pigments.... They are gorgeous and I live in total fear of wasting them.

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Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

At that level they are usually judging based on flaws. Presumably numbers two and three had more technical errors that the judges could see.

Art contests involving high levels of skill aren't judged on flaws. Flaws will count against you extremely heavily, to the point of essentially being disqualifing. It is far more likely they are judging concept and execution. Basically, what was the artist's original concept, and how do all the elements of design and painting support that concept.

I submit art to contests periodically (and have judged too), if I send something with flaws I know I won't win. It isn't even enough to send a good piece without flaws. To win, I must send something where all the elements of design are working in unison to support my concept.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

w00tmonger posted:

Kid went into my Ikea bin of basing supplies and knocked a litre of white glue sideways. Proceeded to slowly ooze through all my moss, Sand, cork, magnets etc

I used to teach kids art, I feel your pain deeply.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Muir posted:

Well, I was having a lot of fun with the model and just kept painting. I think I'm done with it for now but may add a little dude later. Thanks everybody for the input. I did go with the Dark Angels tattoo on the forehead to bring home that this is a former Space Marine and not just a genestealer in some stolen armor. I also went with the classic colors as it made sense to keep that consistent. I love the blood on the hammer but am less sold on the splatter on the armor.







Yes!

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Make sure you know what pigments you are powdering. Don't want to powder a heavy metal. Odds are cheap pastels won't have the good pigments, but always worth checking.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Z the IVth posted:

Are the non-toxic pigments considered "good" or more expensive than the heavy metals?

Oh sorry, I sometimes forget what is common knowledge I guess. Generally artists consider cheap non-toxic pastels to be bad, and the one containing traditional pigments (often heavy metals) to be the good ones. If you are powdering them get the non-toxic cheap stuff. Just make sure to check your pigments anyways, and then still treat it as a standard dust hazard.

Good to remember those cheap pastels are usually mass-produced in the third world for pennies. I'd never truly trust the non-toxic labelling on something, but if they are dirt cheap you can be fairly sure they aren't putting in the expensive heavy metals at least. I personally know one artist that got cadmium poisoning from paints they bought in bulk on aliexpress years ago. She had terrible safety practices, licked brushes, ate in our studio space and all that. Something from your local art supplier should be far more trustworthy, and if it isn't and you get hurt the manufacturer might be held responsible.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Z the IVth posted:

Yeah I am aware of that. Just wondering whether buying cheap pastels would be more likely to get you toxic stuff or if the heavy metal stuff is actually more expensive and harder to source. Or if they don't ever get made into pastels in the first place.

I am sure there are purists out there who would insist on using "original" pigments no matter how toxic they are.

I'm that purist haha. I have a full set of hand blended oil paints using only the pigments available in the renaissance. I don't really think it looks better than newer pigments, but a traditional palette gives a strong unified aesthetic that I like. IMO too many people just buy a million different tubes of paint and use them with no thought to building a colour palette. It doesn't need to be traditional, but color choice should be deliberate.

I have some very toxic paints, a mercury red possibly being the worst, as well as lead white and naples yellow. I also work with heavy metals at my job, mostly cobalt, copper, and various chromium compounds. These are all very dangerous materials and they must be treated with respect, but you can absolutely use them perfectly safely. I find the people who get into the most trouble are those that see safety as black and white, dividing materials into mental categories of safe vs unsafe, when in fact safety is more a spectrum. Something as inert as silica can kill you in as little as ten years if you encounter it daily as a crystalline dust.

Art supplies are fun in that you can just buy stuff over the counter that would require extensive mandatory safety training if you were to encounter them in the workplace.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Dreylad posted:

I didn't know about using chalky watercolours as pigment, although I had a suspicion there was a way to get pigment colours without paying miniature paint companies a lot of money for them. Thanks thread!

I'll go check out Michaels and see what I can find. Sadly all the little cool art stores around here have closed down since COVID. I'm lucky the hobby store is still around.

Avoid Michaels, go support your local supplier, odds are their prices are better too. You can just straight up buy pigments, then you are only getting pigment and no filler.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Dreylad posted:

I know you're out east but any recommendations around the GTA? I haven't found a good supplier around here, or at least one still in business.

I was going to say Curry's, that was where I went when in KW, they were good. I definitely prefer a much smaller sort of art store though, which is harder and harder to find. I live in PEI and get my supplies in Fredericton because I like a tiny store there so much. Known the owner for maybe 20 years now when I think about it.

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Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Kylaer posted:

Cross-post from the specialist games thread, here's my first fully-painted model for Legio Catholicus, "The Powerwolves," Beast of Gevaudan.







I still don't enjoy painting, and I look at some of the stuff that people in this thread produce and wonder why I even bother, but having a painted model is kind of satisfying even if the paintwork is trash, and maybe I'll get it on the table some day :unsmith:

I think you're being a bit too hard on yourself. This is looking good, if you go back and touch up a couple bits of misplaced paint around the trim it is going to be even better. Remember that it won't be viewed up close 95% of the time, your bold scheme is going to look really nice on the table.

Something to remember is that a good number of the people posting here paint at a very high level, and have probably been at it for decades potentially. Keep at it, and experiment with techniques and you will improve too.

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