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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > MLB N/V Spring Training: Aroldis touching the upper 90s again.
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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Cubs boat logo would have to be a rust stained ore hauler that's hoping the winds of November don't come early

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 My understanding is he was born in a gay log cabin.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Also not very good at American Ninja Warrior.

e: lol she also repped Puig

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Big developments in the "Is Kiké Hernandez back?" saga

https://twitter.com/kikehndez/status/1762209708314927244

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/MLBHRVideos/status/1762212812305158633

Jorbit

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

General Bullshit posted:

Someone please sign Joey Votto.

It's too late, he's been jokerfied
https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1762649821289325052

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/jcmccaffrey/status/1762913685473812956

Jesus Christ, those poor kids

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Also cancer. What a nightmare.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/BBGreatMoments/status/1763012065050956178

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/status/1763580796114186508

Aww that's a shame.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 I don't follow a single Yankees account. This one was from defector Barry. I also don't follow Schwab, who is the really mad guy, but I do follow dozens of other Astros accounts.

https://twitter.com/barry/status/1763604009355534584

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Could be worse. Could be Apple.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

FlamingLiberal posted:

https://twitter.com/feinsand/status/1764652317532434890?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

Highest AAV ever signed in a contract extension.

https://twitter.com/dobrienatl/status/1764329731577503989?t=VjfO6v3EoAZhWPfo2DgDBw

I hate this poo poo

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 I'd wager they'd be the very last team to stop doing so. We only do it on Sundays.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Joc's a D back now

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Oh no he's teaching Corbin Carroll how to smoke

FlamingLiberal posted:

Josh Donaldson is retiring

Noooo I think he can still go out there and contribute

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

rickiep00h posted:

Jesus someone sign this guy. Look at him! He's so sad!

Joey Votto cast as Neo in The Canadian Matrix

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Do you guys not eat the standard American diet?


https://twitter.com/thecarnivorebar/status/1765045115230515493

zoux fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Mar 7, 2024

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

RCarr posted:

This is probably a joke but if not, are they trying to say the average American eats over 6,000 calories a day? Or eats enough McDonalds for a family of 4 every day? That just silly.

:jerry:

The seed oils thing is a dead giveaway that this is some Rogan bro influencer

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Dameius posted:

I'm not up to date on my dumb rogan bullshit, what are they going on about with seed oils?

Health food influencer conspiracy theory.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Trevor May actually addresses the diet question in his ama vid, sounds like Jazz was getting his nuggies extracurricularly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4EgbcIHIM&t=654s

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 US army man who killed people in a DUI (e: navy, two people)

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 You guys wanna hear a confession...

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1766116033373286500

I've never liked JVs delivery.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 The Ryne Stanek experience. Great stuff, tons of walks. He's All-Star caliber when he's got it dialed in, tho

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Make sure he gets the Albert Pujols Farewell Tour balls

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 How'd he do that.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Good article on pitcher injuries in the Athletic, if for no other reason than it sums up the latest thinking on what the hell is going on. It's framed as "this famous elbow doctor thinks that breaking pitches are the culprit" but there's so much disagreement that again I must conclude that we don't have strong causal evidence for the rise in pitcher injuries.

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Meister, who pioneered the hybrid elbow procedure that combines a traditional ligament reconstruction with the addition of an internal brace, said surgical techniques changed markedly over the past decade in response to how pitching evolved.

As teams increased their emphasis on velocity and stuff, injury-list placements for pitchers rose from 241 in 2010 to 552 in 2021 before decreasing slightly each of the past two seasons, according to a Major League Baseball spokesperson. The days pitchers spent on the IL more than doubled over a slightly longer span.

A hyperfocus on performance often begins at the youth level. Many pitchers experience problems before ever reaching the majors. The number of pitchers drafted in the top 10 rounds with a history of elbow reconstruction rose from six between 2011 and 2013 to 24 between 2021 and 2023, the league spokesperson said.

Meister, 62, said he repaired approximately 230 elbow ligaments last year and is “way ahead of that pace” this year. Shohei Ohtani threw more sweepers than anyone in baseball from 2021 to 2023 before undergoing his second major elbow procedure. Of course, pitchers who do not throw sweepers or power changeups also are getting hurt, as evidenced by the mounting injuries this spring.

The Boston Red Sox’s Lucas Giolito might require a second elbow reconstruction. The Houston Astros’ Justin Verlander, New York Mets’ Kodai Senga and Toronto Blue Jays’ Kevin Gausman and Alek Manoah are among those dealing with shoulder issues. The San Francisco Giants’ Sean Hjelle is out with an elbow problem, and Tristan Beck had surgery to remove an aneurysm in his arm.

And that is only a partial list.

“We used to say, you get your one TJ, you’re good. Then it was, you get 10 years out of one. Then it was seven to eight,” Meister said. “Now guys break down in three to five, depending upon who they are, the stuff they have, what they throw.”

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“Analytics says velo is super important,” said one pitching coach who was granted anonymity for his candor. “Pitchers and analysts pursue velo. The pitchers that don’t do this retire. The ones that stay take on some injury risk to avoid working at Costco.”

Meister, director of the Texas Metroplex Institute for Sports Medicine, acknowledges the dangers velocity poses. But, he said, “spin is worse.”

The sweeper puts tremendous stress on the inner elbow, Meister said. The power “movement” changeup, as Meister calls it, also puts inordinate strain on the arm. “And to throw these pitches,” he said, “you have to squeeze the crap out of the baseball.”

Years ago, Meister recalls hearing the late Johnny Sain, a former major-league pitcher and independent-minded pitching coach, say when a pitcher is holding a ball correctly, he should grip it in a way that he could throw a raw egg without breaking it.

Today it’s the opposite, Meister said. Pitchers apply a “death grip” to the ball, essentially pre-loading every muscle in their arms. At release, those muscles acutely lengthen in what is known as an “eccentric contraction.” The result can be almost like a hamstring tearing, affecting different pitchers in different parts of the arm.

“We’re seeing all these tears in the lat and teres, all these tears of the previously reconstructed ligament, a lot more flexor-tendon tears,” Meister said. “I can tell you it is a consequence of predominantly those two pitches — the sweeping slider and these hard movement changeups.”

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Not everyone in pitching research and coaching agrees with Meister’s belief that spin is more problematic than velocity.

“A sweeper is just a curveball with a different grip,” one pitching coach pointed out, adding that research is divided on the link between grip strength and spin rates. “And guys aren’t screwballing their changeups to get this movement. For both pitches, they are leveraging the seams to get it to move differently.”

Glenn Fleisig, Biomechanics Research Director for the American Sports Medicine Institute, also expressed doubt sweepers are cause for greater concern.

“We have not studied sweepers, per se, in the biomechanics lab, but we have shown in a number of studies that curveballs and sliders are no more stressful than fastballs,” Fleisig said in an email.

“Therefore, I have no reason to believe sweepers are more of an injury risk factor than other breaking pitches or fastballs. The science points to three main injury risk factors — effort (velocity is an indication of this within pitchers), amount of pitching and mechanics.”
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The caveat to research from Fleisig and others focusing on the risks of velocity is that at least one study from Driveline Baseball showed that stress on the elbow per mile per hour on the pitch is higher for secondary pitches like changeups and sliders. Thus, a pitcher who throws his slider as hard as his fastball actually will put more stress on his elbow.
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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Permanent, for now means temporary.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/smartbackwards/status/1766466162706002074

This looks like the yips or an arm injury

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 So what were Roy and Roger hitting on the gun

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Congrats to Yankees fans on their impending new SP signing. I hear he was electric vs the Dodgers minor leaguers yesterday.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 He looks like Lance Berkman

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Kevlar v2.0 posted:

Assuming a person is a sphere with a radius of 26 cm (I curled up into a ball and had Poque measure me for an estimate) this player would have a mass of around 35,338,560,000,000,000 kg, which would make the player more massive than Mars's moon, Deimos.

This player's schwarzchild radius is measured in picometers so I'm afraid that he would collapse into a singularity from which nothing, regardless of EV, could escape.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 We won't know until he shows up in the clubhouse wearing a Keith Meister ballcap.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 I mean at this point would either of them be ready by opening day

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 Yeah Aroldis was trending on twitter and I was like, oh did someone sign him, lemme see.....ah

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

 https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1767922488581742738

I think you just need to ask the MRI guy what's up

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lumpy posted:

I kind of like the idea of a bunch of private investigators combing the five boroughs for the word on the street re: Gerrit Cole's elbow.

*longshoreman stacking boxes on the pier* Oh yeah, I remember dat elbow, came through here the other day. I sez to Lenny, that elbow don't look so good

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

DeepDickPizza posted:

Getting reports that Aroldis Chapman has been released due to the “Goddamn that’s weird” clause.

"Though a clear violation of the existing CBA, everyone is fine with it."

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