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I really want to like gnome, but it just feels so off. I also don’t like how the dock hides itself unless you click the super button also also I keep trying to use macOS shortcuts like cmd + space bar and then getting annoyed lol
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for now at least, i assume some jackass at gnome is working on removing that feature as we speak
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Progressive JPEG posted:for now at least, i assume some jackass at gnome is working on removing that feature as we speak I don’t think I could use a desktop made by foot fetishists
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Progressive JPEG posted:for now at least, i assume some jackass at gnome is working on removing that feature as we speak why use keyboard shortcuts if every device is a touchscreen
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guh gnome
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:new version of gnome-terminal will only accept gestures as input toe gestures
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is there a way to do like 3 finger swipes to change workspaces in uhhhhh kde (i think? whatever came with linux mint)? that's the big thing i miss running it on my old mbp
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how do I know if a KDE theme is going to rm -tf my poo poo? I switched from gnome-bazzite to KDE-bazzite and it’s insane how many customisation options there sre
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I will say that I liked how much more straightforward and simple gnome was, but that dock/window manager thingo it was doing was awful
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I will say that I liked how much more straightforward and simple gnome was, but that dock/window manager thingo it was doing was awful kde is a settings manager for people who like changing a lot of settings and don't really have anything else to do. you can fix gnome's stupid defaults in 5-10 mins and then you're off to the races with a clean, productive desktop shitface posted:I mentioned I usually install a few extensions to take some rough edges off of gnome. the first thing I do on a fresh gnome install is install "Extension Manager" not "Extensions", which is similar but worse.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:also also I keep trying to use macOS shortcuts like cmd + space bar and then getting annoyed lol install ulauncher and rebind cmd+space shitface posted:there’s lots of them. i settled on ulauncher. can even do nice things like integrate 2fa codes in there also, if you're missing Mac-isms shitface posted:if you don’t wanna go full compiz but you miss the genie minimize effect from Mac, “Compiz alike magic lamp effect” gnome extension does the trick well.
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kde is good and it displays the creative wonderment that is the linux community, for it stands for something you would never expect: "K Desktop Environment" brings a tear to my eye tbh
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I don’t particularly mind it, tho themes don’t seem to install correctly when loading from flatpacks. the only thing I didn’t like about the stock gnome that came with Bazzite was that you couldn’t see the dock unless you hit super, and I really prefer having super be the main shortcut button. the windows button on my ergodox wasn’t supposed to be easy to reach so I didn’t open it while gaming lol
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also I used alsamixer to make my mic not sound like poo poo tonight and until I figured it out I was really annoyed that if this is just how it’s going to be then that’ll be a deal breaker lol
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I don’t particularly mind it, tho themes don’t seem to install correctly when loading from flatpacks. the only thing I didn’t like about the stock gnome that came with Bazzite was that you couldn’t see the dock unless you hit super, and I really prefer having super be the main shortcut button. the windows button on my ergodox wasn’t supposed to be easy to reach so I didn’t open it while gaming lol what you’re asking for is exactly what the arc menu and dock to panel plugins do
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:also I used alsamixer to make my mic not sound like poo poo tonight and until I figured it out I was really annoyed that if this is just how it’s going to be then that’ll be a deal breaker lol theres a couple of settings in the kde system settings under sound/input devices too, but if you're using alsa alsamixer is decent and pretty easy to use too FAT32 SHAMER posted:I don’t particularly mind it, tho themes don’t seem to install correctly when loading from flatpacks. the only thing I didn’t like about the stock gnome that came with Bazzite was that you couldn’t see the dock unless you hit super, and I really prefer having super be the main shortcut button. the windows button on my ergodox wasn’t supposed to be easy to reach so I didn’t open it while gaming lol you should install themes from the kde system settings (or via the official website, if the description there tells you not to). i haven't seen kde themes in flatpacks tbh, idk where you're even getting them from. you can install GTK (gnome) themes from there too so they match e: "system settings, system settings, it's not a control panel, there's no such thing as the control panel" i mutter to myself as they strap on the straightjacket Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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like keep in mind whatever desktop environment you end up using, it's going to have a learning curve. gnome's philosophy is that there shouldn't be a learning curve and that their defaults are good enough for everyone and that if you want to change it you're a deranged lunatic. good luck using a bunch of janky hacks! (signed,) kde doesn't treat you like you have extensive brain damage, so it is a bit more difficult to configure (by "a bit more difficult" i mean like changing five or six settings in the system settings app). you might have to download a theme manually here or there, but that's usually far easier than getting some extremely version-specific gnome hack to work. like i said you can also install (and even preview) GTK themes from the same system settings screen, it's not like GTK apps won't work under KDE e: by "plugin" or "extension" above shitface means "hack" (much like themselves). those aren't officially supported lol, and will absolutely break version-to-version. ignore them and use kde Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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idk, I was under the impression that the Discovery app on Fedora was Flathub, and that also has a bunch of themes and kde stuff  shitface posted:what you’re asking for is exactly what the arc menu and dock to panel plugins do hmm. is there a resource to deep dive all the UI customisation stuff?
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oic. the discover app is made by KDE, not gnome, and yeah it just has downloads in whatever format is available, so yeah there's flatpaks and snaps on there etc. but you should be using the dedicated system settings theme uhh panel? lol to install themes (imo). i'd think you run into far fewer issues, plus like i said if it needs to be installed manually the descriptions on there will explicitly say so e: unless you're talking about some fedora-specific "discovery" app, in which case idk and can't help with Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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discovery is probably kde since on the gnome variant the “App Store” was called something else and had a different look/feel/organisation good to know about the system menu though! most of the themes I tried either couldn’t unpack an archive or wanted to make changes to SDDM, which then failed and I’d have to go through all the customisation options and nuke what did install successfully ok I’ll keep fuckin around. this is fun! im impressed how much betger the experience is since i last did this in 2016 haha
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discovery is KDE's frontend for package management via flaptak, snap, and packagekit. most people use it for flatpaks/flathub. fedora does not include snap. in fedora, flathub is disabled a source by default until you click "add flathub", it also hooks into dnf for your update notifications and poo poo. it is generally unwise to install things like themes and poo poo through discovery / flatpaks. go to the KDE system centre and click "Add New" where it'll search the kdelook thing store website for themes for you and install them "properly". numix is the best theme so you can ignore most of it.
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again idk if you're talking about something fedora specific, because kde's thing is called "discover", not "discovery"
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discovery is KDE's frontend for package management via flaptak, snap, and packagekit. it is named discovery when we choose to mispell it once and gaslight ourselves into believing it was always called discovery and not discover. there's only 3 lights, beef.
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Nobody Interesting posted:discovery is KDE's frontend for package management via flaptak, snap, and packagekit. it is named discovery when we choose to mispell it once and gaslight ourselves into believing it was always called discovery and not discover. i'm onto you spoonheads 
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:hmm. is there a resource to deep dive all the UI customisation stuff? gnome is intentionally deep as a puddle. it's a pretty substrate for, you know, getting things done. with that said customisation is done via extensions. install "extension manager" and search for what you want want wibbly-wobbly windows like compiz? search for "compiz"  want a sane panel? search for "panel"  I will note that search by relevance is dogshit. search by downloads instead because that will prioritize the extensions that are used/tested and solved the same things for other people install these and you can go gently caress around with actual applications, instead of your desktop. a panel. a fast, customisable menu that can take on the look and functionality of whatever version of windows you last didn't hate, has fast search, and can be assigned to windows/super. none of that dumb overview poo poo you didn't like. just a lean, functional desktop that doesn't get in the way  if instead you want you want the DE equivalent of a fidget spinner - and that's entirely valid if your use case is loving around with "linux" and I get that - stick with KDE e: I see Beef remains mad from his prior meltdown he had in his parents basement at 3am over being mildly disagreed with about linux. that's kde_user.html alright. woods/trees shitface fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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rotor posted:gnome is the mac of linux windowmanagers pretty much. opinionated defaults but generally not much to gently caress around with, or needs loving around with. gnome has a few more badpinions by default, owing to a misguided attempt to be a tablet/mobile ui, that are easy to fix
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rotor posted:gnome is the mac of linux windowmanagers xfce is the linux of linyux window managers
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rotor posted:gnome is the mac of linux windowmanagers so i guess kde is like snow leopard server with the server management app for all of the settings panels
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how is kde scaling these days? i mainly switched from a mix of kde and sway to gnome because i started carrying gpd win like devices, and gnome scaled really well on the high-res small screens, and the ui is really touch friendly
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I was kind of starting to like plasma 6, but then after waiting in queue for a squad server I finally got down to 5/18 and plasma crashed and took the game with it. nearly immediately re installed with gnome, and it’s still crashing on screen blank I’ll try it when I build the new computer, maybe I just shut my computer down at night lol. I’m assuming the package I downloaded today was the Fedora 40 image, but it occurred to me that I was just trying to replicate Mac lite on kde and gnome was better at it and I didn’t feel like I keep actively breaking the stock theme lol
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I was kind of starting to like plasma 6, but then after waiting in queue for a squad server I finally got down to 5/18 and plasma crashed and took the game with it. nearly immediately re installed with gnome, and it’s still crashing on screen blank unironically just try clear, couldn't hurt at this point outhole surfer posted:how is kde scaling these days? pretty well, you might remember i primarily use it on smaller screens too, i love me some dense pixels i use it either at native res (10" 1920x1200) or 4k (11", but i use hidpi, scaled to around 1440p equiv). if you're having trouble i'd just use more simplified widgets and such, they're far easier to find than more complex ones anyway. like, even when i'm using the 4k laptop i'm still using a 11" screen, and pretty much anything still works fine (though at straight up native res it's uhh extremely hard to use, lol, definitely use hidpi). your eyes and fine motor control (to hit targets etc with any kind of accuracy lol) are the limit basically Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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im currently using arch and its nice but one downside seems to be that if you use a debian based distro there's usually a deb straight from the source for everything, but on arch you're dependent on stuff in the AUR from random guys which idk how much you can trust.
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mila kunis posted:im currently using arch and its nice but one downside seems to be that if you use a debian based distro there's usually a deb straight from the source for everything, but on arch you're dependent on stuff in the AUR from random guys which idk how much you can trust. running anything but debian/rhel based distros is essentially installing an automated dick/pussy punching machine. if you really want to be continuously punched in the genitals, you should do that
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mila kunis posted:im currently using arch and its nice but one downside seems to be that if you use a debian based distro there's usually a deb straight from the source for everything, but on arch you're dependent on stuff in the AUR from random guys which idk how much you can trust. and half the time the aur just downloads a deb, extracts it, then packages the contents up in a pkg
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