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FAT32 SHAMER posted:it’s surprising that they haven’t just come together and come up with standard binary containers. even just .exe and .dmg standins where the .exe standin is non-containerised and the .dmg standin is containerised would be huge Thats what flatpak is, and also appimage
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Nobody Interesting posted:Thats what flatpak is, and also appimage right, but isn’t that also what snap and deb are too? lol
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:if Linux users could all agree on a unified standard they wouldn’t be Linux users
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system deez nutz
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:if Linux users could all agree on a unified standard they wouldn’t be Linux users
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idk, app images now being linux systems is a clever ploy to make linux users embrace proper application distribution images. basically linux on the desktop right?
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shitface posted:running anything but debian/rhel based distros is essentially installing an automated dick/pussy punching machine. if you really want to be continuously punched in the genitals, you should do that idk much about linux, whats the tradeoffs between debian vs redhat based distros? i'm familiar and comfortable with apt and understand its pretty good, but i also i heard debian tends to get out of date pretty quickly - eg, i'd like to use kde 6. i guess fedora would give me that
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mila kunis posted:idk much about linux, whats the tradeoffs between debian vs redhat based distros? i'm familiar and comfortable with apt and understand its pretty good, but i also i heard debian tends to get out of date pretty quickly - eg, i'd like to use kde 6. i guess fedora would give me that well it’s Linux so neither is good at desktop apps. red hat is like a big company or something and Ubuntu has a funny name
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:right, but isn’t that also what snap and deb are too? lol no, a deb is just an archive that extracts to predefined paths and maybe sets some settings or it could be basically source to make that archive i never cared enough about snap to look into how it works and i'm not going to
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shitface posted:running anything but debian/rhel based distros is essentially installing an automated dick/pussy punching machine. if you really want to be continuously punched in the genitals, you should do that you're a moron
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Beeftweeter posted:you're a moron  Beeftweeter posted:no, a deb is just an archive that extracts to predefined paths and maybe sets some settings or it could be basically source to make that archive  postinst scripts mila kunis posted:idk much about linux, whats the tradeoffs between debian vs redhat based distros? i'm familiar and comfortable with apt and understand its pretty good, but i also i heard debian tends to get out of date pretty quickly - eg, i'd like to use kde 6. i guess fedora would give me that despite repeated attempts to reinvent it I've always had more issues from the rpm/yum/dnf stuff than dpkg/apt*. more importantly (to me) I trust redhat about as far as I could throw beeftweeter, which is likely not very far. they already hosed centos https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/ and I don't particularly trust them not to gently caress fedora in some way, even though that relationship is different, being mainly financial support it's true that Debian-derived distros tend to move slower than fedora for things like major desktop updates. for me, I favour stability over the latest shiny thing so I'm ok with it. fedora does tend to ship the latest thing fast if it's a priority for you all I'm saying is that running one of the major distros is going to be easier because that's where the users are. that's where the project packagers and maintainers are. that's where the independent packagers are (for example it's extremely likely that someone will package kde 6 in an ubuntu ppa before it's shipped by debian or canonical). that's where the users who report problems are. it should be self-evident to anyone that that's where you're going to have the best/easiest experience. if you value these things over riced compiler options, that's where you should go
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oh man you sure owned me by posting penny arcade or whatever that dumb poo poo is
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kde would probably be fun if I had more free time to gently caress around with stuff, but gnome is a much more gentle transition from macOS all day at work
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shitface posted:
iawtp
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:kde would probably be fun if I had more free time to gently caress around with stuff, but gnome is a much more gentle transition from macOS all day at work this is going to sound like an advertisement but: you can make kde function like macos with just a couple of clicks. just download a theme from control center and apply it it's unlikely but i guess you might have to add a global menubar widget yourself if the theme doesn't come with one, but that's also extremely easy, just right click on the desktop and go to add widget also you want to download plank for a dock probably, it's dead simple to set up and use ime. others that are good but more complex are docky and latte dock i feel like you keep saying you're trying kde but are not actually doing that. all of these things are pretty easy and even easily discoverable, and we're talking about linux here ffs
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:it’s surprising that they haven’t just come together and come up with standard binary containers. even just .exe and .dmg standins where the .exe standin is non-containerised and the .dmg standin is containerised would be huge why are you so against new and exciting innovation from the dynamic linux software distribution ecosystem?
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Beeftweeter posted:this is going to sound like an advertisement but: you can make kde function like macos with just a couple of clicks. just download a theme from control center and apply it im not actually trying kde, or gnome
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fart simpson posted:im not actually trying kde, or gnome you should
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Beeftweeter posted:this is going to sound like an advertisement but: you can make kde function like macos with just a couple of clicks. just download a theme from control center and apply it or you can just buy a mac and get a unix that works without all the bullshit. and with better hardware than you can get anywhere else
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fart simpson posted:im not actually trying kde, or gnome well if you ever do, mila kunis posted:kde is great gnome is not. simple as
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akadajet posted:or you can just buy a mac and get a unix that works without all the bullshit. and with better hardware than you can get anywhere else yes, in general, don’t run Linux as a desktop unless you have no access to Macs. even the x64 container stuff runs well enough locally on M series that at this point, there’s little excuse. for anything that doesn’t, there’s servers. still, if you have x64 hardware you want to use Linux as it’s unequivocally less bad than windows the worst thing about trying to recreate macOS - or really any os - one for one with themes, generally made by some shut-in tween called ~~**2dark4u**~~ is it will never feel right. it’s a fools errand to the uncanny valley. Mac and Windows themes are only ever going to lead you to the uncomfortable place of, “it kinda looks like it, except when it doesn’t, and nothing is where i expect it to be”. it’s a waste of time. let it be what it is. the best thing to do is assess whatever OOB desktop fits you best, gnome, cinnamon, kde, xfce, whatever you want. there’s an Ubuntu spin for about everything (except cinnamon, just use Linux Mint which is also cool and good), and each of those have the largest communities for those DEs, so i will unashamedly recommend it to anyone starting out or not yet fully confident. gently caress the nerdlingers and ricers and their “noobuntu” nonsense. if you outgrow it later, and want to go deeper, cool. shitface fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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shitface posted:you can have another meltdown now, beef. it’d be better for everyone if you didn’t, especially you, but you can. shut the gently caress up
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Beeftweeter posted:shut the gently caress up i hope you have some real friends around here because when you’re getting melty about linuxpionions you’ve got some serious mental poo poo going on if anyone actually gives a gently caress about beeftweeter now would be a good time for an intervention. tia
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shitface posted:i hope you have some real friends around here because when you’re getting melty about linuxpionions you’ve got some serious mental poo poo going on it’s just linux window managers op it doesn’t really matter or merit an intervention
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fart simpson posted:it’s just linux window managers op it doesn’t really matter or merit an intervention when you get very, very mad about them to the point where you can’t reasonably state a case, only post insults or tell people they simply aren’t trying hard enough to like what you like, it seems like it does
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Shaggar posted:linux is junk and you shouldnt use it if you dont have to i had a hard time finding a laptop that ran linux without dogshit battery life so i stuck with macos there, maybe i'll try asahi at some point. but for my desktop i want to play video games and i dont want to use windows
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fart simpson posted:beeftweeter has convinced me to use kde if i ever need to use desktop linux again if kde seems cool to you then, great, fart. enjoy its many options and incredible Mac themes and, uh, maybe its nebulous ability to maybe or maybe not add something that may or may not resemble the mac global menu bar  
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shitface posted:if kde seems cool to you then, great, fart. enjoy its many options and incredible Mac themes and, uh, maybe its nebulous ability to maybe or maybe not add something that may or may not resemble the mac global menu bar cool is a stretch. it seems fine for what it is
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fart simpson posted:cool is a stretch. it seems fine for what it is whatever floats your boat 
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mila kunis posted:i had a hard time finding a laptop that ran linux without dogshit battery life so i stuck with macos there, maybe i'll try asahi at some point. but for my desktop i want to play video games and i dont want to use windows just use windows you dweeb
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but why. no need to use wsl when i can use the real thing. ive been able to game with no problems so far, proton's pretty good.
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your operating systems are supposed to be a piece of poo poo not your personalities fuckin chill
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:right, but isn’t that also what snap and deb are too? lol isn't snap just the ubuntu not-invented-here reimplementation of flatpak?
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