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the imminent death of windows 10 has my partner pretty excited about linux. she has the kind of adhd that has her up all night reading manuals and documentation on just about anything - she is immensely excited about KDE/Plasma and knows more about it than i do despite never having used it. we almost had it on her new laptop but an ACPI bug meant no audio and also MS Office is doing too good a job of keeping linux at bay right now. the ACPI bug affects windows too and there is no audio on a fresh install until you let windows update do its thing. lol.
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ryanrs posted:Wifi is on a Realtek RTL8723DS, not the Rockchip. glinet own. i have the GL-A1300 which i think has gigabit, but no PoE or microsd card. it's a "travel router" but it works great even when not traveling.
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Beeftweeter posted:is it a max98357a? that's used in a lot of chromebooks, and it has the same acpi problem. there's a script that enables audio (for chromebooks! i'm not sure if this will work on a regular pc) here https://github.com/WeirdTreeThing/chromebook-linux-audio it's an asus zenbook, but kernel 6.7 came out in the meantime and fixed the issue. couldn't move her to linux in the middle of the semester, and i don't have a solution for ms office yet. she does a LOT of collab stuff in Teams or whatever.
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Elder Postsman posted:installing steam os and uhhh actually kinda makes sense because steamos does some fuckery with the screen orientation on the steam deck, probably part of why there's no real installer for it yet
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wsl is good except for when it isn't. linux is always good
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hbag posted:this was quite literally the very first thing i did. come on microsoft are extremely dumb and do not know how to distribute software correctly. you can actually install two entirely distinct versions of wsl! isn't that great? i don't mean being able to switch between wsl1 and wsl2, i mean you can have the Microsoft Store version installed alongside the...windows? version? this is usually what kills lxss in my experience. i've never fixed it properly because i just reinstall windows whenever the smallest problem occurs. only ever install wsl with wsl.exe --install is the moral of the story.
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actually the moral of the story is that linux is good
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yeah it's ridiculous. wsl is the best thing microsoft have ever produced (alongside windows terminal, which honestly owns and i wish i could bring it to linux) but they are simultaneously unable to figure out how to distribute it in such a way that doesn't completely gently caress your system. microsoft are the only company i can think of that consistently do the best things in the worst possible ways.
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Beeftweeter posted:just reinstall windows imo
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Jonny 290 posted:wat lol EOL next october. yes i know it doesn't really matter. yes i know LTSC w/ massgrave activation is a thing.
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Beeftweeter posted:the theme really is very good oh gently caress i hope it plays well with plasma 6. i used eXPose for a little bit and i enjoyed how it was styled like XP but not exactly a clone.
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hbag posted:do you still need a really specific kind of cpu to run windows 11 or what because if so lol & also lmao at microsoft thinking people are going to upgrade officially, yes. if you don't have the right generation of CPU, TPM 2.0, and Secure Boot enabled, you cannot install win 11. without some registry tweaks: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e the marketing fluff is "you might not get updates and your system might run like poo poo if you do this", the reality is probably that neither of those things are true. but also they could be. who knows? e: lol the same page states that using dism to install an image also skips the check
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InternetOfTwinks posted:I ended up using Manjaro for this machine, my first serious foray into linux, and I'm seriously considering starting fresh with arch at this point tbh. Shouldn't be too bad to get everything I actually use set back up, but leaner i recommend it. Manjaro is dangerous because they mix repos, so you have a weird crossing of stuff from the real Arch repos + whatever Manjaro does. then there's the scummy poo poo they do like DDoSing the AUR by 'accident' and forgetting to renew SSL certs and telling their users to just change their computer's clock to get around it. you can build something better with just arch
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:I was looking into putting Linux on a laptop that is slightly too old to run win 11. but all the results about running a good Linux on it was like opening a portal back to 2010 or something a possible problem there is that linux works great on that laptop now, but nobody has written about it since. try it and see. dual-GPU can be a pain still to this day though, but look at up to date information on it instead of that specific laptop.
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i have never been able to solve the battery thing, but i understand the general concept. windows does fuckery in the background to disable processes, reduce disk activity, downclock the CPU, whatever the gently caress the gently caress modules... so the concept is to replicate that in Linux but it's extremely hard to do so because not everyone is making their software to understand this kind of thing. Arch Wiki (as expected) has a good article on it - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management. even just laptop-mode-tools saved me a few hours of battery life back in the day. my method of dealing with it nowadays is twofold; i use desktops and if i ever use a laptop i plug it in  generally any time i had to use a laptop without a power source just wasn't a worthwhile laptop-using time. i'm not - as much as i'd like to be - rms
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ryanrs posted:don't be rms i am contractually obliged to mention the time i ate chinese food with him
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Arson Daily posted:I just switched to ubuntu server from Win10 on a thinkstation to run all of my piracy crap and its working pretty well except for some dependency bullcrap making deluge not work at all. getting to act like a 13 year old 1337 h4xor using the command line again is kinda fun too but also kind of a pain cuz i don't know all of the commands by heart yet so I've got like 15 tabs open for poo poo like mount or rm. it's not what you want to hear but you'll probably want to just run debian. that dependency crap could very well be snap doing some bullshit. sorry. debian is literally just ubuntu without snap. especially so for debian sid ("unstable")
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:same except he was going to stay at my house while in uni but had a weird list of demands including no dogs lol how did you get to be the one to house rms
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:do you need to use the server version to run a bunch of dockers or can I use the normal version? ubuntu server is just ubuntu with a different set of default packages. you can run anything on any version of any linux. excpet ms office. FAT32 SHAMER posted:nobody in my class had room in their flat so they asked me lmao
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Arson Daily posted:So like I don't use docker but keep hearing thats its best practice or whatever for running plex and *arrs and all that stuff. Why? What does it do that just running the programs without it doesn't? I literally haven't done any studying on it so sorry if this sounds dumb. also I chose server because it doesn't come with any GUI stuff which seemed better since I'm running that computer headless but idk I'm just a dummy who wanted a computer project to do To go into a little more detail on it, docker is good because Containers!  But also docker is bad because Containers! (as with a lot of things, it's personal preference) Typical Linux system is like this: you have a filesystem and in that filesystem are all of your files - executables (binaries), libraries (DLLs), resources (icons and poo poo), config files, porn stash etc. In a typical Linux system all of this stuff lives harmoniously together - /usr/lib/somefuckinglibrary.so is accessible to all binaries on your system. File permissions control access to the files (maybe your web server doesn't need to read the config files from your torrent client). Containers are a way of taking that concept of the Linux filesystem and bundling it up in its own little thing. Only stuff with access to that container can access stuff in that container - so if I'm running Plex or whatever in Docker, its config files, libraries, binaries, everything are completely hidden from everything else on the system - they don't even know of its existence! What makes this good? First - you can run many applications that all rely on specific versions of somefuckinglibrary.so independently of each other, and not have to worry about keeping somefuckinglibrary.so up to date - it's handled in the container! Second, the container is portable. You can lift that container out from this system and just put it on another one. It'll be like it never moved at all. What makes this bad? Okay well a security vulnerability got discovered in somefuckinglibrary.so and you have 5 containers running the vulnerable version and the maintainers aren't updating them. Good luck trying to do that manually (you can't, not easily anyway). There's also an extra layer of complexity added because the container is - as far as the application running inside it, and all of the applications outside of it are concerned - a completely different physical loving computer. You now need a thing called a "reverse proxy" to access it in any meaningful way, and you'll actually be utilising local TCP/IP to do this. In modern scenarios it's pretty easy to just do it, but many argue it's a layer of complexity that just isn't needed. Debugging? Lol. If you're lucky, the container contains bash. In most cases it's just sh, so hopefully you don't need shell access to the application for anything!
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yospos: putting the fun into -funroll-loops
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booting up my arch linux desktop at work, ready for a full day of posting
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hbag posted:i believe my laptop is a dell G3 3500 that's what you believe, but i believe it is an asus eeepc!
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oh man, speaking of which, an asus eeepc 1001 was actually my only laptop for around 5 years or so. it came with XP and ran like poo poo. installed arch on it and it was capable even of running a competent game of warcraft 3 through wine. incredible little piece of poo poo. i did most of my first two years of university with it before jumping aboard the refurbished thinkpad train.
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Beeftweeter posted:using windows is counter-revolutionary
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btrfs sanpshots, as it turns out, fully own. i didn't understand them and i don't think i entirely do yet but i installed snap-pac (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Snapper#Wrapping_pacman_transactions_in_snapshots) to make snapshots before and after -Syu. disk space usage is negligible and i now have HUNDREDS of snapshots. you can even just loving boot into a snapshot what the hell this is incredible. i can hose an entire directory of configs but roll back to a snapshot and fix everything???? i can even just loving browse the snapshots and pull out intact files i need. just amazing stuff linux is great one thing that did suck is that it's not entirely trivial to separate /boot and /boot/efi, so my kernel images are not covered by snapshots.
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gnome is fine once you realise the default configuration makes a ton of weird assumptions, such as the fact that you'll be using a touchscreen.
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rotor posted:has anyone used steamos as like a regular desktop linux thing? It's arch based now, insomuch as Valve take a snapshot of the Arch repos and add their own for kernels and poo poo (this is different to the bad thing manjaro does because they do not take a snapshot, but rather mix repos wholesale). It also uses the concept of an immutable root filesystem. this means you do not make changes in / because it's read-only. Even if you do make changes to it, they will be overwritten at the next upgrade. For general desktop use there is no official release. The closest you get is HoloISO which is a project that builds an installer for SteamOS based on the repo information. So using it as a desktop os? Not worth it. The only way to do it is with an unofficial installer and even though that installer doctors stuff it is still very much an os for a weird shaped handheld. Immutable fs can introduce frustration for some, too. I wouldn't bother. Linux is pretty good btw.
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i went to the gym and then had a long walk hoo boy that was a long time to not be using linux for
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it's reasonable to choose fedora over arch if you don't want the fun of installing abso-loving-lutely everything. i call it fun without sarcasm.
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fedora really is great for a 'just works' distro. dnf is a poo poo package manager but a normie would ignore it and use flatpaks most of the time, without even knowing they are using flatpaks. use fedora if you want to use windows
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apt is actually poo. why is it so slow???
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it might honestly just be that pacman spoiled me. it downloads the files, and extracts them to the place. in comparison, apt is like doing a bank transfer.
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linux distro package manager that is. obviously there's pooey web tech ones like npm.
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fart simpson posted:??? bank transfers take milliseconds sorry, should have specified international ones or maybe i meant that apt is instant. who's to say?
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