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mcmagic posted:Can we just get an OG, Randle, Brunson series vs the Celtics and see what loving happens? Randle turns back into a pumpkin, Brunson averages 38ppg but Knicks lose because he can’t win a series by himself.
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fart simpson posted:im still laughing about that defense today. intentionally not guarding jaylen brown, daring him to score, so he gets 19 points in the first quarter? it's probably the weirdest defensive game plan ive ever seen in the nba what about 
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elime anning posted:what about yeah that was worse, i had forgotten
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Very much enjoyed shai deciding in the 4th this shitshow is over then proceeding to make every shot
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elime anning posted:what about They were making sure he couldn’t do his deadly backstep three
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Metapod posted:Very much enjoyed shai deciding in the 4th this shitshow is over then proceeding to make every shot Yeah I was really hoping the suns could bank a big enough lead to withstand it when he came back in. Just not good enough. Suns might be the 10 seed by the time booker is back. Rough watch lately
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elime anning posted:what about Lmao first thing that came to mind for me
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I was looking at the 2013 all nba teams, as one does, and was reminded that David Lee of all people was 3rd team all NBA that year. And not for dumb reasons, the guy was 18th in win shares, and the 5th best forward by win shares that year, so he at least deserved it on paper. Which got to me thinking, what would David lee be in today's NBA? An undersized center who was merely an ok defender? He was considered a great offensive player at the time, and shot a ton of midrange shots so he probably would have adjusted his range to shoot 3s if he came up in a different era, but what would he be if he was in today's NBA? Tobias Harris? Harrison Barnes? And mind you, this is the 5th best forward in the league we are talking about. Which got me thinking, people keep talking about offense and how its out of control, and keep talking about shooting and 3 pointers being the culprit, but like... what if NBA players are just too good today? What if the quality of nba player today is so high that it is not reasonable to expect to scheme defensively for them in a way that would make scoring even comparable to what it was 10 years ago? Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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David Lee would pretty much just be a bad version of Sengun/Domas/kanter and would be pretty hard to play unless he developed a reliable 3. Even then he’d be hunted in the playoffs. You just can’t be a bad 3point shooter in today’s league unless you are an elite rim defender + lob threat.
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Paul Zuvella posted:I was looking at the 2013 all nba teams, as one does, and was reminded that David Lee of all people was 3rd team all NBA that year. And not for dumb reasons, the guy was 18th in win shares, and the 5th best forward by win shares that year, so he at least deserved it on paper. The question that's impossible to know is if he could have trained himself to shoot threes instead of long twos if he was in today's NBA. Before looking up his stats I was like "well he must have shot a few, even Barkley shot threes sometimes" and the man was 1/29 from three for his career. Even David Robinson was 25/100 (and no it wasn't during the shortened line years). If he could have been moved out to shoot threes, he'd be useful, if he couldn't, nah
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david lee would probably be an undersized offense first center, so like idk montrezl harrell?
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Fun David Lee fact is it took him getting injured for Draymond to get his first real minutes which is what unlocked the recipe for Peak Warriors.
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Declan MacManus posted:david lee would probably be an undersized offense first center, so like idk montrezl harrell? David Lee was not really a hustle guy, or at least not as his primary thing. In today's NBA he'd definitely would have stretched out to the 3pt line and then he'd be a undersized center/PF with handles and a drive game so maybe like smaller Naz Reid or like defensively-deficient Tobias Harris. Julius Randle who needs to hit the gyym? PJ Washington or like Jabari Smith Jr are maybe not super far off that archetype, maybe. That kind of player is definitely gone from the NBA, but I think there are a few who maybe aren't too far off.
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edit beaten. (David Lee got replaced by Draymond and the team got way better)
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elime anning posted:what about Same, but the Lakers "arms behind the back" defense on Harden.
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Papes posted:David Lee would pretty much just be a bad version of Sengun/Domas/kanter I'm chuckling at this and trying to think of other things to fit into this format. Jalen Green would pretty much just be a bad version of Jordan/Wade/Waiters
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this is what a 76% FT shooter looked like in 1950 https://i.imgur.com/nKGKq18.mp4 if you ever wonder what basketball would look like if nobody dribbled ever here's some footage
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dokmo posted:this is what a 76% FT shooter looked like in 1950 What the gently caress
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there used to be a youtube channel called something like wiltatkansas or something like that, it had a bunch of great old archival footage (nba probably nuked it into oblivion) but in addition between learning basketball from red auerbach and watching aba dunk contests i also watched a lot of footage from the 50s-70s and even just comparing games at the beginning and the end of each decade the development is wild but you'd also notice the same thing trying to watch a game from the long ago halcyon days of 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yrjchNg7Fk
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OzFactor posted:I'm chuckling at this and trying to think of other things to fit into this format. Jalen Green would pretty much just be a bad version of Jordan/Wade/Waiters Heh, didn’t mean to imply those guys were on the same level at all. The reality is David Lee would be even worse than kanter!
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david lee's defense was suspect even back then, i think he'd be steve novak/ryan anderson levels of unplayable now
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big boi posted:Oh hey a new thread for no reason Remember how annoyed the hockey mod would get if a monthly thread stayed open even a day too late? He’d kind of meekly start asking no one in particular when the new thread would be open like a step-dad who’s been told he can’t discipline his wife’s kids. And then we wouldn’t see him again for another month lol
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big boi posted:Oh hey a new thread for no reason The circle of power to protect against Grayson Allen started to fade.
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Chris James 2 posted:I may never see the Washington Wizards win another game Yeah but you get the joy of watching Jordan Poole Other note: is Harden washed or is he just in a bad system for him/spacing issues/coaching* or whatever *I don't know enough about ball to really spot these things but I've gathered that either a player is bad or it's one or more of those reasons or possibly all of them in addition to being bad
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sharknado slashfic posted:Yeah but you get the joy of watching Jordan Poole He’s not scoring 30+ a night anymore but he’s still putting up 17/5/8 on the most efficient shooting of his career. He’s still very good
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I love seeing what the NBA decides to fine people for flops and what they just choose to ignore. https://x.com/NBAOfficial/status/1764727544299782175?s=20
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soggybagel posted:I love seeing what the NBA decides to fine people for flops and what they just choose to ignore. Just another little reminder that Draymond pretended to get hit in the face and subsequently laid on the ground for almost a full minute and was never fined.
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sharknado slashfic posted:Yeah but you get the joy of watching Jordan Poole I think it’s more that he’s 34 and no longer a team’s first, second, or only scoring option.
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The Maestro posted:Just another little reminder that Draymond pretended to get hit in the face and subsequently laid on the ground for almost a full minute and was never fined. It looks like Theis got the offensive foul call he was flopping for, so maybe the refs are more likely to fine if they fall for it.
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DeimosRising posted:He’s not scoring 30+ a night anymore but he’s still putting up 17/5/8 on the most efficient shooting of his career. He’s still very good No poo poo, i guess that's what I get for reading Twitter
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snyprmag posted:It looks like Theis got the offensive foul call he was flopping for, so maybe the refs are more likely to fine if they fall for it. Wolves played like poo poo and didn't deserve to win. But it is funny that they lost by 1 point.
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Rick posted:The circle of power to protect against Grayson Allen started to fade. 
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Another reason to be a Denver rather than Detroit fan According to James Edwards III, on his latest podcast, Mike Muscala actually was fine with staying in Detroit but because Monty (aka Troy) told him that he likely wouldn’t play in favor of James Wiseman, they offered Muscala a buyout so he can go to another very young team in OKC that actually has a chance to make noise this year.
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Speaking of podcasts, Tim Legler has a four-days-per-week podcast with Adam Mares called All NBA, and I really liked the episode I listened to. They watch games and talk about the games, if you can believe it.
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not sure i believe that. every time ive tried listening to any of those espn type sports guys they clearly aren’t actually watching the games
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Legler is a decent enough analyst, I don’t agree with everything he says but it could be worse.
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big boi posted:Speaking of podcasts, Tim Legler has a four-days-per-week podcast with Adam Mares called All NBA, and I really liked the episode I listened to. They watch games and talk about the games, if you can believe it. Yeah it's good.
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