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xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Schultz off the board

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1765077130109751347

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xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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quote:

The Panthers will clear only $52,000 in cap space by cutting Hurst before March 16, with $9.9 million in dead money.

Lol

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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That Madubuike contract is waaaay more than I would feel comfortable giving him after an outlier year on a loaded defense. If I'm Christian Wilkins and I actually have multiple years of production at that level under my belt, I'm asking for like $30m (and if I'm Chris Jones I guess I'm asking for Danny Dimes money?)

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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He doesn't have multiple years of double-digit sacks, but I would say being a solid interior pass rusher and one of the best interior run stoppers in the league puts him on a similar level as 2023 Madubuike

Borsche69 posted:

'way' more is a little bit of a stretch. if he had two years of that kind of production, then this would be a massive underpay. he was pretty good in 2022 and fantastic in 2023. with that + the cap explosion, going for slightly more than the second highest contract feels about right. he's trending in the right direction and there's a decent chance it looks like a good value within a year or two.

Yeah I guess I would have thought a "solid deal" would be locking him in at like $3m less AAV, but I'm just surprised they had to pay him top-of-the-non-Donald market money and guarantee 75% of the contract. I guess there's a chance it was worth paying what they had to now and waiting until after the Jones/Wilkins deals would have only driven the price up more, though

It's also hard to judge because I look at the DT contracts on the books now and my first instinct is to go "drat, they paid him $2m a year more than Dexter Lawrence and gave him $15m more guaranteed??", but at the same time I could go "They paid him $2m a year more than Daron Payne...I guess that's fine." The one thing I'm certain of is that Lawrence contract is going to age like fine wine

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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What would Bosa even get paid if he hit the open market right now? Dude's still got some juice when healthy but there's just no way you can expect to have him for a full season at this point

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1766931372042502228

Baker is BACK

edit:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1766931533300932843

Seems like a good deal for Tampa, both on the guarantee and AAV?

xbilkis fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 10, 2024

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1767031634728034531

Cursed images

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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That's only a tick higher on the AAV than I expected for Greenard. Could be a solid deal if he's as good as the ~metrics~ make him out to be

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1767236741407109283

Titans slowly assembling a real line

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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That's so much money for a team that is going to do jack poo poo over the life of that contract

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1767250441337741463

C'mon man don't let the Eagles have him for that much

edit: $34m guaranteed, what are other teams doing

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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This seems super cheap for a guy coming off a real good year

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1767287357097623657

Good price on Stone given the safety deals so far

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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The Panthers need to build an entire offense so they know if their #1 QB is a bust or if he just sucked because every player around him sucked. But also a few of their best defenders were hitting free agency now and they didn't have a ton of cap space despite having 0 foundational pieces under long-term contract. So they end up letting dudes like Burns and Luvu go so they can sign a guard for $20 million and overpay someone like Calvin Ridley and recoup some of their lost draft capital

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767346864561525140

Doesn't seem bad considering where the market is heading

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1767380882417930295

Carolina paying their guards $33m a season and I still can't definitely say they're going to be good

(the guards, not the team itself)

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767679137244733846

Big one

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1767679353465249846

That's actually a super reasonable deal given his age. Full guarantee doesn't really hurt when it's only two years

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Rapoport said Hunter had teams willing to pay him above $25m/year but he took a hometown discount, which makes that contract make more sense

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Mystic Stylez posted:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1767715723718402185?t=kHd9Pojgt6eBRd3almSAww&s=19

Bryce gets his WR1!

(I literally never heard this guy's name before)

His most memorable play in Chicago was declining to take an easy path out of bounds on a potential game-tying drive and immediately having the ball ripped out of his hands to end it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fara5f6N_LI

Then he returned a punt for a TD against us with Carolina. Generally not a good-for-the-Bears guy, can't comment beyond that

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1767981888524767264

No Mack hitting the market :(

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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This isn't really accurate; Jordan Schultz just said in some video yesterday that he'd be "surprised but not shocked" if he went back to Jacksonville. I can't figure out exactly when it published, but it looks like it predates a lot of the smoke about him likely re-signing with the Jags. Still interesting that at least one guy heard it's not a lock pretty recently

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Not if they do it after 4 p.m. eastern today. That's why people have been speculating he's just holding out for the new league year to re-sign

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1768021822874796389

Whoa

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Ornery and Hornery posted:

What an awful loving trade for Seattle.

They now don’t have a second or third pick.

If they are going to trade, maybe trade for Justin Fields??

They very much still have a 3rd round pick

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Let's gooo

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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I would say they're definitely going to take a WR at 5 now but I don't want to underestimate Jim Harbaugh's hatred of the forward pass

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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You're going to have to narrow it down, on account of all the clowns in the entertainment industry. (Just joking around — much respect to all celebs. - x)

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Wasn't Bosa a San Diego Charger

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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^edit: she's a legit source for Panthers news; she's broken a couple of signings this week

SirPablo posted:

How is this guy?

The Bears played three awful centers last year and Feeney was the worst one / only got used as a last resort, so not great

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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Yeah the Burns move was fine in a vacuum; he's not a $30m AAV guy. The problem is that they had better opportunities to trade him in the past and didn't pull the trigger, but that was a different regime so you can't really hold that against them now

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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I don't think Young and Clowney are particularly similar at all.

Young had a good rookie year, then took a step back before blowing up his knee. Post-injury, he's looked like a pretty good pass rush specialist who has basically no discipline when he's got scheme responsibilities that go beyond "get to quarterback." There's some usefulness in that, but it is the kind of thing that gets you a bunch of mercenary one-year contracts from teams that think "We need to get to the quarterback more!" but eventually get annoyed by 17 games of a guy consistently being in the wrong place

edit: And yeah, it's concerning that he got to a contender with a loaded D-line and his production/discipline/focus did not improve

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xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

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I think it's underdiscussed how Minnesota might be pretty badly situated to move up, even though they're sitting just outside the top 10. Any team in that 4-6 stretch wouldn't just be giving up on their preferred prospect by moving down to 11; there's a good chance they'd be giving up on the entire "blue chip" tier of prospect in this draft.

I feel like most teams would have no more than 8-9 guys classified on that level — some combo of the top 3 QBs, top 3 WRs, maybe 1-2 LTs, maybe an EDGE or a CB, maybe Bowers. A trade down with Minnesota would be hard to swallow unless you're really high on Bowers, a defender or a non-Alt tackle.

And then from Minnesota's perspective, you've got an inverse situation going on, where it's totally reasonable for them to ask "How much should I really have to pay for the right to move up 6-7 picks and draft the 4th best QB in this draft?". It's hard for me to imagine them finding common ground with another team on a fair price to trade up.

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