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trem_two posted:Man United are planning on knocking down Old Trafford Big deal I've been suggesting this for years *lampardishly* no but it's a bit snug around there since you've got train tracks one side and a canal on the other. Looking forward to seeing some ridiculous artists impressions
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The canal can easily be built over and wouldn’t be a problem.
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the sex ghost posted:Big deal I've been suggesting this for years Supposedly some of the biggest issues with revamping the old one is poo poo like electricity and other cabling, and how difficult that would be to modernise.
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TheRat posted:Supposedly some of the biggest issues with revamping the old one is poo poo like electricity and other cabling, and how difficult that would be to modernise. Nonsense, they’re finally hiring a Director of Football
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Old Trafford is massive but it's also rusting and old as poo poo, Emirates is space age comparatively. Lol, I just googled it, Maine road was built over a decade after Old Trafford. Dravs fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Mar 8, 2024 |
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TheRat posted:Supposedly some of the biggest issues with revamping the old one is poo poo like electricity and other cabling, and how difficult that would be to modernise. If this discussion was happening 20 years ago it would be easy because money was a lot cheaper. The amount of work required to do the Emirates for example was colossal and it cost a lot because of it. The other downside to not being able to repeat a trick that can only really be done once is that redeveloping the same site doesn't give you the opportunity to sell hundreds of apartments in London. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-t-5JCIkzg
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senile trafford
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are they going to get government money for this
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brocked posted:Except all the ones that sucked gently caress YOU I AM GOOD
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mila kunis posted:are they going to get government money for this In the USA this is always the case or the teams decide gently caress you we will move, which I don't think is a thing in Europe? Either way, the sports teams end up paying back the government funds well over because of the impact they have on the local economy. It keeps fans happy, brings in money, and usually only anti-sports people are the ones bitching.
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T Bowl posted:In the USA this is always the case or the teams decide gently caress you we will move, which I don't think is a thing in Europe? Either way, the sports teams end up paying back the government funds well over because of the impact they have on the local economy. It keeps fans happy, brings in money, and usually only anti-sports people are the ones bitching. Wait what? Public financing of private sports stadia are rarely ever profitable for the city. There's an argument that keeping teams around brings expressive benefits to cities and fans but I don't think there's a financial argument that they're good investments.
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nawilo_420 posted:theres nothing more cringe than city fans trying to defend their club lol. ive seen them irl too How do you figure out whether you or the district of culembia get the big tv when both teams are playing at the same time?
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Akbar posted:Wait what? Public financing of private sports stadia are rarely ever profitable for the city. There's an argument that keeping teams around brings expressive benefits to cities and fans but I don't think there's a financial argument that they're good investments. It's profitable long term and not just government, it's the overall effect of an area.
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T Bowl posted:It's profitable long term and not just government, it's the overall effect of an area. This is what every team claims, and... Akbar posted:Wait what? Public financing of private sports stadia are rarely ever profitable for the city. There's an argument that keeping teams around brings expressive benefits to cities and fans but I don't think there's a financial argument that they're good investments. ...it's hardly proven or to be taken as fact. tl;dr billionaire owners of private property should pay for that property to be redeveloped. 2-1 over Brentford, never in doubt (because I saw the scoreline before watching the highlights this morning  )
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Arsenal...ftw
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harperdc posted:billionaire owners of private property should pay for that property to be redeveloped. 
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sourdough posted:Arsenal...ftw I have been hearing this
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kri kri posted:I have been hearing this More and more people are saying it
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https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1767095325779440003?t=v5zOIFPmQvfINRR-jvsxOA&s=19 Lovely to see city and Newcastle's directors love their club so much they work for free.
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Leeds wanted to pay the directors more but spent all the money on Americans (various)
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
It's good op more billionaire owners should do it
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Newcastle put their director of football on gardening leave for exactly this kind of Twitter graph
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Looks like Chelsea don't know something that eludes all the other clubs
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Their directors are the best because they pay them the most money
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I was watching an analysis vid from FourFourTwo on the pool-city game and the presenter makes the point that Doku didn't even get the ball first on the high boot to MacAllister. VAR is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwAgbYyAcDk&t=705s
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T Bowl posted:It's profitable long term and not just government, it's the overall effect of an area.  , no it's loving not and never has been, you dimwit
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https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1768030597316833546 Good news
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Lock down his shithousing skills early
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sticksy posted:
You are taking the government recoup method I see, which is loving stupid.
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don't give billionaire cunts money
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mila kunis posted:don't give billionaire cunts money I agree, but that's the thoughts behind it. They'll just pick the next bidder. lovely system.
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Very good news indeed
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T Bowl posted:It's profitable long term and not just government, it's the overall effect of an area. I can't speak to European football specifically but studies of US sports and stadium projects has shown that there's a substantial crowding out effect where spending on the sports team and related stuff (e.g. nearby bars that get traffic from fans) mostly replaces other spending that would have occurred in the area rather than causing it to secularly increase. It's horrendously inefficient public spending as far as economic returns are considered.
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T Bowl posted:You are taking the government recoup method I see, which is loving stupid. I'm not taking anything, the entire thing is welfare for the least deserving and should be dismissed out of hand, especially given the past 30 years where it's been consistently shown to stiff local government and tax payers. Every loving time. Please cite a single study not underwritten by a billionaire or consortium that actually shows it remotely makes financial sense for anyone to subsidize these.
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https://x.com/MattHughesDM/status/1768918353572241581?s=20
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a "jocular slap"
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love it when my boss gives me a jocular slap
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