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Budzilla posted:Isn't Pine Gap more of a NSA facility than a CIA one? Same poo poo
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Same poo poo Like bikes and cars.
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hambeet posted:Like bikes and cars. Also black and white.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Same poo poo
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Well it’s a good thing they clarify that in the first few minutes of the video then I guess e - “for all the nerds out there” lol Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Bucky supporting click bait methods. You hate to see it. ‘One man designed a cycling super highway, but you won’t believe what happened next!!!’
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hambeet posted:Bucky supporting click bait methods. You hate to see it. And I would've finished that Super Highway, if it wasn't for that dastardly Cycling Australia!!!!!
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hambeet posted:you won’t believe what happened next!!!’ Unless you have any familiarity whatsoever with Auspol
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Budzilla posted:Being critical of the overreach of intelligence agencies particularly after Prism is a good thing. But if you don't know the difference between the premier civilian HUMINT and military SIGINT agencies of the United States in your video title then you are showing ignorance. Weird that these guys also seem to subscribe to these other gems; + Putin was forced to invade Ukraine by NATO + Boris Johnson directed Ukraine to not pursue a peace treaty with Russia + Zelenskyy was installed by the CIA through a coup not a popular revolution + Slobadan Milosevic was unfairly attacked by NATO Etc etc
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Paracausal posted:Weird that these guys also seem to subscribe to these other gems; So tankies basically
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I remember back around the turn of the millennium when people like John Pilger and and Noam Chomsky were part of a largely coherent worldview in which America and its western allies were far less benign than they liked to seem, and were tipping into monstrous evil in Iraq and Afghanistan. The receipts were there. I met government officials who confirmed that the aluminium tubes intelligence on Iraq was bogus (they were for rocket bodies, not uranium centrifuges). The US failed to confirm any of their claims despite gaining total control of the country, etc. Then Julian Assange came on the scene with a perfectly cogent reason for anonymously releasing records of government and military malfeasance and exposed an overt war crime. And since then it’s spiralled off into this weird world where formerly incisive critics are interlinked with networks of Kremlin-puppeteer disinformation spruikers of varying degrees of purity. It seems like there are several things all happening at once. I’m getting older, tireder and nore gullible. Putin has emerged as a new challenger against Dick Cheney for the drown of “worst ravager of the concepts of truth and order in international relations”. And it’s sort of one of those “everything happens twice, first as tragedy then as farce” things except it’s “then as farce + nuclear sabre rattling”. America has no doubt got better at propaganda, and I’ve got more tied into algorithmic propaganda networks for “my side”, and at the same time Russia has been exposed to be running massive disinformation efforts that were probably always there in weaker forms. Mainstream America also seems to have genuinely resiled from the worst excesses of the war on terror (which makes it all the more remarkable how much terrible poo poo they still get up to). The thing that does my head in is trying to work out how much better America has actually become (relative to the rise of figures like Putin) vs how much the wool has just been pulled over my ageing eyes. 20 years ago I thought pine gap was an affront to our sovereignty, and it still is, but part of me also thinks that maybe in the third and fourth decades of the 21st century there might be worse things than belonging to an alliance that can see everything, everywhere. The Artificial Kid fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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Nuclear is the real punk rock. We don’t want grandpa’s stuffy old solar panels.
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Paracausal posted:Weird that these guys also seem to subscribe to these other gems; Zelenskyy didn't even become president until 6 years after the euromaidan protests! I know asking for critical thinking skills from tankies is stupid, but come on.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Well it’s a good thing they clarify that in the first few minutes of the video then I guess 1:03 - "One of the most important CIA's spy bases" 1:13 - "It shouldn't be controversial to say that the CIA wants to control the world" 2:30 - "These CIA guys are literally out here laughing as Bond villians" Finally at 3:45 he talks about the nerd poo poo. Why can't the video creator have the video title "We sneaked into the largest US spy base in the southern hemisphere" or something catchy like that? The CIA has done lovely things over the years but it is no reason to make lazy rear end poo poo clickbait like this. Pretty lol that their previous video is "Youtubers Will Promote Anything"
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We snuck into a top secret military base so that we could see classified documents. And you know where else you can see classified documents: the forums for War Thunder, the sponsor of today’s video.
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mario voice: so long, white bastard
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hambeet posted:mad keen to learn the next buckyism Well in honour of the new thread here’s a few on the shortlist for ya: Garden Island Literally some of the most prime real estate in the world, so kick the navy out and create an arts & culture precinct and super-yacht mooring facility.  Waste State takes the whole thing over. No more relying on business and councils to work out a cost-positive way of doing it right. Build a big gently caress-off MRF/ recycling / organics processing facility at Eastern Creek (between the drag way and the M7). Capture all commercial and residential food waste. And a giant warehouse for council collection stuff that gets sorted into grades of usefulness and salvagability. Eliminate disposable packaging at dine-in fast food. X sports centre Competition-grade skate park, big air, etc. Just next to the Wanderers football park seems like a good location. Leppington Cargo Already discussed, but bears repeating - move the freight depot south a few miles and extend the train line a few hundred meters and we can take a shitload of trucks off the road.  (move big red circle to little red circle) Sydney Games Kind of like a modern corroboree. Centennial park is a massively underused resource, so for one weekend a year, have a massive tournament. Most of the major sports. Split the city up into 32 regions to make the table easy, have primary / secondary / open divisions. And while we're at it, an Australian Games at Homebush as well. Somewhat related, one major difference I noticed between Sydney and Melbourne, is sport. Most sports fields in Sydney are empty. Seriously. But the few nights I've spent riding around Melbourne, they're packed, with people playing relatively high grades. Schools Lunch provided. I am so loving sick of all the kids' nutrition relying on millions of parents having to do it individually. Kitchen Garden in every campus, competition for best produce More partnerships with retirement homes Make Science Fairs more of a Thing Aquatic Recreation Harbour baths. Few of these things scattered around the bays would be alright:  And for those not by the harbour, an olympic-sized natural public pool at Prospect. But you can only get there by active transport. And speaking of prospect, whack in a zipline from the lookout down towards the filtration plant.  And a communal outdoor fireplace in each suburb. Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 9, 2024 |
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I posted this in the chill thread, but now this is open I want to say it again: I've honestly lost count of the number of times some white person in a position of authority or power has faced the slightest push back from a minority and some goon has rushed in to say that racism against white people is totally real and just as bad and quoted loving dictionary definitions at people. And then, in the space of half a dozen posts, has gone from "I'm the only one here who's really standing up for what's right" to "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children". 100% serious - as soon as someone posts that "the dictionary defines racism as..." you can start the countdown to racist implosion.
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EoinCannon posted:I thought everyone here was too old, cynical and ironic for a real meltdown to occur. Last time we almost had a meltdown was the 'read theory' guy a couple months back, but he's actually turned out to be pretty cool now that he's chilled out a little.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Well in honour of the new thread here’s a few on the shortlist for ya: Bucky Fullminster posted:Pretty entertaining 48 minutes Unlike your posts
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Last time we almost had a meltdown was the 'read theory' guy a couple months back, but he's actually turned out to be pretty cool now that he's chilled out a little. We all have our poo poo phase, some never leave (me)
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:Unlike your posts Great stuff as always man! Good chat, fun times
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I posted this in the chill thread, but now this is open I want to say it again: It's really bizarre. He didn't even get that much prodding, just a few questions, a bit of push back, and he completely flipped his lid, ranting about secret groups trying to destroy 'his' country.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:...the dictionary defines racism as... *starts countdown* Captain Theron posted:It's really bizarre. He didn't even get that much prodding, just a few questions, a bit of push back, and he completely flipped his lid, ranting about secret groups trying to destroy 'his' country. A friend of mine recently said to me something that really stuck with me. If your politics are based on whatever makes you personally least uncomfortable rather than positions being ethically or morally defensible you can't make a distinction between criticisms of your positions and/or actions and personal attacks. So instead of apologising for being wrong and having done harm, i.e. owning your mistakes, you continue to try to minimise discomfort by going on the attack at the source of the discomfort which is the person pointing out you did harm.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Great stuff as always man! Good chat, fun times always the one saying it, never the one hearing it
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Captain Theron posted:It's really bizarre. He didn't even get that much prodding, just a few questions, a bit of push back, and he completely flipped his lid, ranting about secret groups trying to destroy 'his' country. It's like the movie, A Few Good Men when Tom Cruise's character is talking about how to get Jack Nicholson's character to admit he ordered an attack on one of his own men. One of the legal team Cruise is working with wonders how they can get Nicholson to admit what he did, and Cruise points out he wants to admit it, he's desperate to admit what he did. He's not ashamed of it - he's proud of it. All he needs is the excuse. A "You can't handle the truth!" tirade from the put-upon-martyr is what every person like that secretly lives for. That said, it's a real bummer. I know I disagreed with the poster before, but I really thought they were better than that.
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The Artificial Kid posted:The thing that does my head in is trying to work out how much better America has actually become (relative to the rise of figures like Putin) vs how much the wool has just been pulled over my ageing eyes. On the contrary to the wool being pulled over your ageing eyes, you have grown up and come to the correct understanding that the world is a more complex place than it appeared when you were in your late teens or early twenties and were taking your political lessons from tankies.
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The Artificial Kid posted:Russia has been exposed to be running massive disinformation efforts that were probably always there in weaker forms. Yes they were always there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5WjRjz5mTU I don't think this is the actual video I wanted but you get the idea
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I’m not sure now is the time to talk about how thank god mainstream American politics has come back from the brink of the early 2000s
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bucky we need less mooring places for super yachts not more also weird, perth also has a place called garden island also used by the navy
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Yeaaaah come on, gently caress the super yachts. Also how many time does it need to be said Prospect Res is part of Sydney's water supply and you can NOT do what you want there. Not like there is a water park just across the road too......
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Spookydonut posted:bucky we need less mooring places for super yachts not more I feel like every coastal city has a Garden Island The one in Adelaide is near where the AUKUS stuff will probably never get built but all the shipwrecks are cool https://www.environment.sa.gov.au/topics/heritage/maritime-heritage/visiting-maritime-heritage-places/shipwreck-trails/garden-island A garden it ain’t though
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Do I really need to explain the logic behind giving billionaires a place to open their wallets Also the pool would be a few hundred meters back from the reservoir. The waterpark across the road is cool and all, but it’s an expensive noisy mission, and not exactly nice and relaxing.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Do I really need to explain the logic behind giving billionaires a place to open their wallets I don't think we need an entire island to build a guillotine.
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freebooter posted:On the contrary to the wool being pulled over your ageing eyes, you have grown up and come to the correct understanding that the world is a more complex place than it appeared when you were in your late teens or early twenties and were taking your political lessons from tankies. To be clear: I don't think my views of that time were substantially wrong, although they were probably more youthfully exuberant and unchallenged. The most salient thing for me is that I used to have right wingers, racists and hawks calling me a liberal as a slur because I believed in peace, international order, healthcare free at the point of care and a generous social safety net. Now I have self-proclaimed leftists calling me a liberal, also as a slur, for essentially unchanged beliefs. What seems to have happened is a bunch of people went so nuts, between America's crimes and the Russian propaganda firehose, that they can no longer really deal with nuanced reality at all. But I can't help acknowledging the possibility that if I suddenly find America under Biden more palatable maybe the problem is I'm not seeing as clearly as I used to. Solemn Sloth posted:I’m not sure now is the time to talk about how thank god mainstream American politics has come back from the brink of the early 2000s
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Do I really need to explain the logic behind giving billionaires a place to open their wallets Do I need to explain the logic of "Billionaires are the main cause of how hosed things are and can gently caress the hell off"? It does not matter where you put the pool, it is still restricted area due to catchment for the dam. Full stop. And uhhh.... since when is a public pool NOT noisy? Season pass for Raging Rapids is hundred buck for the season, that's not exactly bad value. The main issue is there's effectively no public transport even if a suitable bike path - actually quite a good one that's getting close to completion - exists from Blacktown. If you still are keen for a public pool in the area, Blacktown Drive-In has land around it suitable altho Blacktown itself has a public pool already
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Do I need to explain the logic of "Billionaires are the main cause of how hosed things are and can gently caress the hell off"? The problem with billionaires is that they have too much of the money, so if you have a more realistic way to redistribute it than to If the drive-in is the best you can do then fine I'll take it, but I'd rather be surrounded by birds and trees than asphalt and the M4. Also the speedway is closer to the reservoir than some possible locations for the proposed pool. I know it's "restricted", that is what is being reevaluated in this hypothetical. Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Mar 10, 2024 |
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