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Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
If there is a dig at the final episode I feel like we repeated the shot of
Lucy, let’s go home/Lucy looks utterly devastated” five or six times in a row? It got to the point where reminded me “Babe, babe, babe, baaaaabe!” from hot rod.

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Ironhead
Jan 19, 2005

Ironhead. Mmm.


grobbo posted:

No, he apparently tried his luck with Fallout too, if a random internet user is to be trusted:

https://twitter.com/gremlish/status/1766167406819618928

It's certainly possible because he's a dumbass, but anyone that works in the industry wouldn't claim to be a "master of props and crafts". There would be one "Prop master" on site, and, well, craft services is food. They would both be union. I guess there might be some IATSE members out there teaching college classes, but they keep alot of their education internal.

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



Rubellavator posted:

Never watched Tim Cain talk about anything before but he seems like an absolutely swell dude.

He has a blog with reviews of chocolate and baking recipes that he started in the 90's that is still being updated regularly, too.

https://chocolateihaveknown.wordpress.com/author/timothycain/

Most of his games hide a recipe or a chocolate bar joke somewhere (in Fallout, it was a recipe for mushroom-shaped meringue cookies in the manual.)
Here is one hidden in Stonekeep's data folder.

Entorwellian fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 19, 2024

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Ironhead posted:

It's certainly possible because he's a dumbass, but anyone that works in the industry wouldn't claim to be a "master of props and crafts". There would be one "Prop master" on site, and, well, craft services is food. They would both be union. I guess there might be some IATSE members out there teaching college classes, but they keep alot of their education internal.

Are you suggesting somebody would just make things up to get a sick burn in on El*n?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Arc Hammer posted:

https://twitter.com/Tunnelsnakefool/status/1781132376531476504?t=q-KSN9w17D7kyok88deYlQ&s=19

Cool project someone is doing syncing up the maps from FO1,2 and Vegas.

But why does it have to be a low res twit video?
Large picture would work 1000% better and you can post those on twit too.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Obviously the best thing is to not feature Elon Musk on your TV show. But if you must include a cameo, he should have played himself in that room with all the villainous badguys all sitting around plotting together, with references to his companies and everything. He'd probably walk off set after being told what his role is, which circles back around to the ideal outcome anyways.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
I wonder if he’d play the role and be proud for a month before finding out on twitter that the show was making fun of him

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

counterfeitsaint posted:

Obviously the best thing is to not feature Elon Musk on your TV show. But if you must include a cameo, he should have played himself in that room with all the villainous badguys all sitting around plotting together, with references to his companies and everything. He'd probably walk off set after being told what his role is, which circles back around to the ideal outcome anyways.

No, he should have played that idiot wearing a diaper that wanted to marry Lucy.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Steve Yun posted:

I wonder if he’d play the role and be proud for a month before finding out on twitter that the show was making fun of him

He did unironically use JC Denton as his twitter profile pic for awhile, despite being the most Bob Page motherfucker who has ever lived.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Rubellavator posted:

Never watched Tim Cain talk about anything before but he seems like an absolutely swell dude.

He could have thrown a vault uniform on, walked right on set, and most people wouldn't know he was just playing himself.
"Swell dude" seems absolutely right-on.

Massive_Idiot
Jun 21, 2007

Receiving data bursts, everything to do with it.
I am one of those people who came out of the gate fomenting bile for exec producer Todd Howard and his management of the series but the reality is the show is fun and good. I do feel this article best summarizes some of my thoughts on storytelling and agency, change, in the fallout setting and the concerns I’d have with becoming too invested in it in future titles or media.

https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/i-loved-the-fallout-tv-show-but-i-did-it-in-spite-of-bethesdas-stifling-take-on-the-wasteland/

I’d be curious to see some thoughts. Season 2 could easily fix up the hiccups found in season 1 and I agree with the idea of change and even killing of sacred things in relation to a setting but good writing pulls that off not “quick” writing which I see signs of in the production of this show. It’s good.. but rushed. It needs to slow down and take its time or it’ll run out of gas imo.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
I’m making a show about how rich people ruin the world. I can think of a little worse than to have people arrive via private jet for cameos.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
I think the show does a good job at condemning hypocritical ways of thinking and acting. Vault-Tec destroys the world to "save it". Hank raises his children to have morals and principles and when asked to live up to that by example, he crumbles and leaves. Both Lucy and Norm idolize Hank, Lucy: If my dad knew I had taken a fusion core from a vault and damned everyone living in it, I couldn't look him in the eyes Norm: if my dad was here he would be the first one to feed the raider prisoners hope lies in the young generation, one brought up to act out their morals instead of just giving them empty lip service when things are convenient. Lots of stuff going on in my personal life ATM that really reinforces the idea that we are judged by our actions when things are hard, not the poo poo we say when things are essy.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc
I'm really stupid so it took me until today (I finished the show on Wednesday) to get the Lucy Goosey bit.

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

Nancy posted:

I'm really stupid so it took me until today (I finished the show on Wednesday) to get the Lucy Goosey bit.
wait...


...


gently caress

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc
Glad I'm not alone :v: I was thinking about how funny that Vault 4 scene was and it hit me.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Nancy posted:

I'm really stupid so it took me until today (I finished the show on Wednesday) to get the Lucy Goosey bit.

Ah.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
More tropes I love:

there’s an entire war going on outside, people dying left and right, and yet somewhere in the middle of it there are a bunch of people talking and they’re having a war of words over the soul of the main character. Never get tired of that one.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Steve Yun posted:

More tropes I love:

there’s an entire war going on outside, people dying left and right, and yet somewhere in the middle of it there are a bunch of people talking and they’re having a war of words over the soul of the main character. Never get tired of that one.

Every Fallout game had a "The Man in the Room" confrontation this one is no different.

DarkLich
Feb 19, 2004

Massive_Idiot posted:


https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/i-loved-the-fallout-tv-show-but-i-did-it-in-spite-of-bethesdas-stifling-take-on-the-wasteland/

I’d be curious to see some thoughts. Season 2 could easily fix up the hiccups found in season 1 and I agree with the idea of change and even killing of sacred things in relation to a setting but good writing pulls that off not “quick” writing which I see signs of in the production of this show. It’s good.. but rushed. It needs to slow down and take its time or it’ll run out of gas imo.

The author does a good job of arguing for his preference, but it misses a bigger aspect of the Fallout setting. Every studio that's contributed to it has had different mediums and different motives. Fallout isn't some immaculate egg of canon, it's a hodgepodge of creative efforts over decades with various owners.

Interplay had access to older game tech, and established an RPG in a red-scare setting with B-movie rulesets.

Bethesda resurrected the IP with 3d and their existing engine. They had to introduce the game to a much wider audience, without alienating original fans too much.

And now Amazon and their creatives are visiting the setting in a completely different medium and storytelling structures. Same as Bethesda, they need to capture as much audience (old and new) as possible, so they're going to rely on those familiar symbols and factions.

That may create that sense of stasis that some people dislike. But it's probably the smartest thing that the studios can do when trying to reach new viewers. As you said, I think the real display of their ability to evolve a story will be in future seasons. People will have their preferences, but when comparing them as storytelling media, remember that each "Fallout" had very different handlers and goals.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Arc Hammer posted:

Every Fallout game had a "The Man in the Room" confrontation this one is no different.

Guess I’ll play one soon!

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Kyle MacLachlan continues to be the treasure

https://twitter.com/Kyle_MacLachlan/status/1781383929574117523

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

DarkLich posted:

The author does a good job of arguing for his preference, but it misses a bigger aspect of the Fallout setting. Every studio that's contributed to it has had different mediums and different motives.

Meta buys the IP. Fallout 5 us a metaverse only experience. The wasteland never feels no full of horrors as lifeless beings wander a post apocalyptic digital void.

Radiation from the bombs dropping now canonically removed everyone's legs for unexplained reasons.

Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.

Chet perving an IG profile.

DarkLich
Feb 19, 2004
a true method actor, getting horned up to really sell the character of undersexed cousin

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



drat good coffee....and hot!

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Probably not my favorite gag in the show, but one thing I really loved was cyclops Chris Parnell putting on a normal pair of glasses, and never acknowledging or drawing attention to it.

Most comedians would have hammed it up and drawn such a minor joke out way too long, but such a subtle dumb little thing was the best.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

funniest joke in the show was Lucy saying she thought the brotherhood were the good guys

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




“sometimes a fella’s got to eat a fella”

“rear end jerky don’t make itself”

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Cojawfee posted:

No, he should have played that idiot wearing a diaper that wanted to marry Lucy.

The example of the valid reason you don't go beyond cousin stuff.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Maybe not as funny, but Maximus paying up six caps instead of five for faster repairs on the core part for the Power Armor, got a chuckle out of me. He technically has more knowledge of the Wastelands than Lucy, but just lower in social and negotiation skills overall.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

I like to think that was Max’s own tooth he got shot with. If you love something, set it free.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's pretty dark but I though "A Man and his Dog" was a good gag.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

zoux posted:



drat good coffee....and hot!

drat now I want him to hit the slots at the New Vegas casino and go HELLO-OOOOO

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



So I was thinking about this just now:

Is The Ghoul/ Cooper a Marked Man, or something like them? He seems to have the extremely high pain tolerance, his skin seems red and flayed, even compared to other ghouls. He was VERY close to the LA blast zones.

It makes sense the direct blast would do it to him, like the Marked Men in New Vegas.



fatherboxx posted:

drat now I want him to hit the slots at the New Vegas casino and go HELLO-OOOOO

Kyle finally returns to Vegas, after the disaster that was Showgirls

Enderzero
Jun 19, 2001

The snowflake button makes it
cold cold cold
Set temperature makes it
hold hold hold

TulliusCicero posted:

So I was thinking about this just now:

Is The Ghoul/ Cooper a Marked Man, or something like them? He seems to have the extremely high pain tolerance, his skin seems red and flayed, even compared to other ghouls. He was VERY close to the LA blast zones.

It makes sense the direct blast would do it to him, like the Marked Men in New Vegas.


Kyle finally returns to Vegas, after the disaster that was Showgirls

Interesting. But he wants to know where his family is, which implies his daughter is still alive and she was there with him.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Enderzero posted:

Interesting. But he wants to know where his family is, which implies his daughter is still alive and she was there with him.

The daughter is an interesting thread to follow up on. Clearly he has some reason to think she might be alive, so something happened after the bombs. Tim Cain also mentioned a better reason for not thinking Vault-Tec actually started the war, why would Barb let her daughter go to a birthday party on the day they were going to destroy the world? She would've known the plans and had her safe in a Vault somewhere.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Enderzero posted:

Interesting. But he wants to know where his family is, which implies his daughter is still alive and she was there with him.

My theory is he got his daughter in the vault but due to conflict with his wife, was denied entry himself, and got blasted by the heatwave outside

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

TulliusCicero posted:

My theory is he got his daughter in the vault but due to conflict with his wife, was denied entry himself, and got blasted by the heatwave outside

Denied or just didn't want to go in. While he would his daughter to be safe obviously, he also hated everything about vault tech/those related people and what not and could've just decided in the moment he wanted nothing to do with those fuckers.

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TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Grand Fromage posted:

The daughter is an interesting thread to follow up on. Clearly he has some reason to think she might be alive, so something happened after the bombs. Tim Cain also mentioned a better reason for not thinking Vault-Tec actually started the war, why would Barb let her daughter go to a birthday party on the day they were going to destroy the world? She would've known the plans and had her safe in a Vault somewhere.

House has stated in New Vegas as well that the exact timing of the bombs even surprised him, and happened before his calculations, and if he had an inside scoop on what Vault Tec was up to that day, he would have for sure finished his preparations, rather than being about 20 hours off

I think Vault-Tec DID have a plan for it to happen their way, maybe even the day after, but Life and their escalation of the Geopolitical conflict came at them fast, and they themselves were caught off guard.

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