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I like pretty much all the Terminator movies and the show, but Salvation is way more boring than a Terminator movie with Michael Ironside in it should be.
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A story I've told before in the other threads but IMO it should be here: A few years back I went to see Terminator 2: Judgment Day in theatre, on 'Judgment Day' (August 29th I think, if the T2 canon holds). The theatre we went to was the Royal Cinema, a local repertory that's also used as a sound mixdown studio for films. Big console in the sweet spot, nice soundsystem and acoustic treatment, the whole shebang. My friend and I quickly realized this was just some film students renting out the theatre to show a Blu-Ray copy of the movie. They did a little skit before the show and then the lights dimmed and someone was clicking through the Blu-Ray menu on screen. A little embarrassing, but OK whatever, I'm seeing T2 in theatres. And then the movie started, without sound. It made it all the way up to basically the end of the future scene-setting, before they stopped it. People in the audience were making "pew pew" laser gun and explosion sounds with their mouths. It stopped and someone came out and apologized, then spent a couple of minutes 'fixing it'. The movie started again, this time mit sound! Joy! Except the center channel was missing. You know, the center channel, where dialog and voice-over lives. So this battle raged over the future hellscape, without any Sarah Connor VO establishing what was going on. People were laughing and grumbling, a few people ran to the back to tell the staff. I was getting a bit pissed, but when the shot showing old grizzled John Connor (in his fatigues bearing a 'CONNOR' nametape) appeared, someone in the audience shouted "WHO'S THAT?!?!" and that was funny enough that I stayed. They got the center channel back and we watched the whole thing and got free tickets at the end for the gently caress-up. Seriously, who forgets to plug in the center channel in a theatre like that? Anyway, it's a pretty fun memory.
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Mar 23, 2024 14:04
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Good points.
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Mar 23, 2024 14:06
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Salvation must be one of the movies with the most wasted potential. Everybody always talked about how cool the war segments in the original movies were, thanks to their unique atmosphere and cyberpunk aesthetic... So they shot a movie that takes place in the future war, and made it look like a generic modern military film with generic soldier characters firing generic AR15s in a generic brown wasteland???
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Mar 23, 2024 14:07
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Toxic Mental posted:Can Terminators gently caress, like do they have dicks the only screen canon reference is Dark Fate, where the T-800 drapery salesman "carl" who confirms terminator dicks are cosmetic and his wife Alicia is not interested in sex and loves him for his other qualities
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Mar 23, 2024 14:09
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steinrokkan posted:Salvation must be one of the movies with the most rated potential. Everybody always talked about how cool the war segments in the original movies were, thanks to their unique atmosphere and cyberpunk aesthetic... So they shot a movie that takes place in the future war, and made it look like a generic modern military film with generic soldier characters firing generic AR15s in a generic brown wasteland??? Terminators 3 through 5 ALL make the mistake of forgetting/ignoring that The Terminator was as much a horror movie as it was anything else.
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Mar 23, 2024 14:14
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Neither skynet nor the machines from the Matrix did anything wrong.
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Mar 23, 2024 14:20
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My dog barks at the wind blowing the leaves too hard, and goes loving ballistic when the amazon driver drops off a package. I'm surprised the resistances best determination of a Terminator is a barking dog. I bet there were a lot of false positives. Wouldn't another method have been better like a magnet? It was already shown in T3 and Terminator Genisys that a strong magnet could hold a Terminator so they must have a magnetic signature. Seems like a metal detector would have done a better job than an anxious dog.
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Mar 23, 2024 14:29
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Put a scale on the entrance to the bunker/warren. Guys who are 5'10" and a quarter ton? Suspect. Have them disrobe and do a spin. Guys who look like they are getting all their macros and 5 hours of weight and cardio training every day? Maybe not eating rats and decades expired corned beef on the run from hunter killers.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:06
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steinrokkan posted:Salvation must be one of the movies with the most wasted potential. Everybody always talked about how cool the war segments in the original movies were, thanks to their unique atmosphere and cyberpunk aesthetic... So they shot a movie that takes place in the future war, and made it look like a generic modern military film with generic soldier characters firing generic AR15s in a generic brown wasteland??? Agreed. Terminator (and ALien) franchises are both saddled with the challenge of sticking with something that works and delivers the fundamental concept to fans while also needing to do something new. I'm happy that the new Alien trailer seems to be getting back to what I like about the first two movies. I still think that the only real way to freshen up the Terminator franchise is the simple approach to just making it a period piece and setting poo poo in the old west, WW2, the civil war or some poo poo and play off the "not with these weapons" aspect of T1. It worked out really well for Prey. Dicking around with conflicting timelines and tangled continuity is not only not very interesting, but really hard to pull off without creating more questions than it answers. BttF pulled it off but it's tough. You don't have to reinvent the wheel to make a franchise, as the MCU, Rocky, F&F, Rambo and even low rent poo poo like Police Academy have shown us. loving Kung Fu Panda 4 is the #1 movie in the US right now while the last Terminator sunk like a stone. The creators overthink what makes these movies really work, I believe.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:25
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The T2 Bio-flesh regenerator playset commercial. Have hours of fun making robots into naked Arnold Schwarzeneggers.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:26
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Terminators 3 through 5 ALL make the mistake of forgetting/ignoring that The Terminator was as much a horror movie as it was anything else. Absolutely loving unstoppable killing machines. Nothing* you can do, nowhere you can hide, it will cross both time and space to find you and end you. No time or place is safe once Skynet decides you’re on the target list. *environmental kills are the only real way in the 80’s and and 90’s.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:26
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Skynet c-suite at the terminator design review be like Strength: peak human performance, olympic level athlete Age: peak human attractiveness Face: maximum masculine features Accent for maximum infiltration efficiently: austrian Penis: average
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Mar 23, 2024 15:34
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OSHA was started by Skynet to eliminate as many hazards as possible
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Mar 23, 2024 15:35
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Penis size is determined by your charisma stat
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Mar 23, 2024 15:36
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Icon Of Sin posted:Absolutely loving unstoppable killing machines. Nothing* you can do, nowhere you can hide, it will cross both time and space to find you and end you. No time or place is safe once Skynet decides you’re on the target list. One of the most Terminator-rear end deaths to happen was actually in TSCC. Spoilers for a decade and a half old TV series. There's a scene where the heroes are making a fighting retreat from a T-800 and Derek Reese, a hero we've been with for a season and a half, is just caught lacking for a split second at the wrong time, takes one to the dome and with the 'bot not even breaking stride as it pursues the other characters. That's a killer robot, not something that wants to toss you around for a bit like it's some kayfabe for the hayseeds in the stands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0iNpSpW21Y Hell here's some heresy even the OG Terminator comes off a bit goofy from the ideal of "no frills, no emotions death robot" fighting Ginger's boyfriend so sloppily. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reZW4yrjJFM
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Mar 23, 2024 15:40
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TRUE STORY: I had a battle-damaged T2 Arnold figure in the early nineties. You pressed a button and it said "HASTA LA VISTA, BABY," while its eyes glowed red. When the battery started dying, it started repeated "HASTA LA VISTA BABY" with its red eyes over and over and over. My little brother, who shared my room, was so horrified that night that we threw the toy out.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:47
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Patrick in T2 was probably the best at portraying the ruthless efficiency of a robot assassin. Whenever he is within the eyesight of John, he never takes his gaze off him and never stops blasting in his direction, through whatever obstacle there may be, even if there's only a slim chance of hitting him.
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Mar 23, 2024 15:48
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steinrokkan posted:Patrick in T2 was probably the best at portraying the ruthless efficiency of a robot assassin. Whenever he is within the eyesight of John, he never takes his gaze off him and never stops blasting in his direction, through whatever obstacle there may be, even if there's only a slim chance of hitting him. Hard agree. He's just absolute menace in every frame. I can't find the interview but apparently he trained himself to be able to mag dump his baretta without flinching; something actors didn't always do in the 80's/90's and set him apart from Arnie's OG termie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgibX4BCYBw
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Mar 23, 2024 15:52
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I can't support Kyle Reese, not after he stole that hobo's pants, "That son of a bitch took my pants." the hobo wailed. I can't stand that, was like watching a dog get kicked. I understand it's serious business and the whole world is at stake, but there are lines you just don't cross. LOL Ok first, he was a bum, not a hobo. Hobos ride on trains. Second, lol. I've been thinking about those pants since the mid 80's. I mean, Kyle just came from the post apocalypse future, so he's probably fine with the pants, right?
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Mar 23, 2024 15:56
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The UTI he gave sarah probably drat near finished off what the killer robot couldnt.
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Terminator 2 is the most overrated movie in existence, the acting is so bad but it gets a pass because a lot of money was thrown at it for the SFX. The concept is cool but it's painful to watch for most of its runtime
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Mar 23, 2024 16:08
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I mean, the times its good its 10/10 but it winds up like a 6/10 overall due to just bad performances
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Icon Of Sin posted:Absolutely loving unstoppable killing machines. Nothing* you can do, nowhere you can hide, it will cross both time and space to find you and end you. No time or place is safe once Skynet decides you’re on the target list. That's the real essence of it and the thing they should focus on if they want to make sequels. The basic element of "and it absolutely will...not...stop...EVER, until you are DEAD". T1 is definitely a horror movie. A slasher film with a loving indestructible robot instead of a Jason or Michael Myers. egon_beeblebrox posted:TRUE STORY: I had a battle-damaged T2 Arnold figure in the early nineties. You pressed a button and it said "HASTA LA VISTA, BABY," while its eyes glowed red. When the battery started dying, it started repeated "HASTA LA VISTA BABY" with its red eyes over and over and over. My little brother, who shared my room, was so horrified that night that we threw the toy out. This is loving hilarious Revins posted:Terminator 2 is the most overrated movie in existence, the acting is so bad but it gets a pass because a lot of money was thrown at it for the SFX. The concept is cool but it's painful to watch for most of its runtime 
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Mar 23, 2024 16:20
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Its mostly this scene/child actor that spoil it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njS1__eM5U0
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Mar 23, 2024 16:29
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I saw T2 opening night at a theater in Lawrence MA, right off 495. On a double date, and I was with this woman that was my everything.... Every time I drive by that theater, I think of that night, of T2. One of my most cherished movie memories. And so as I was traveling 495 the last few years I was saddened to see that theater closed. I haven't driven by in a while, it may be gone by now. I have all these Terminator memories intertwined with that place in Lawrence.
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Mar 23, 2024 16:35
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redshirt posted:I saw T2 opening night at a theater in Lawrence MA, right off 495. On a double date, and I was with this woman that was my everything.... Don't leave us hanging. What happened to the woman? Did she go back in time? Revins posted:Its mostly this scene/child actor that spoil it for me Movie has its flaws and is not perfect but nothing in it comes remotely close to ruining the entire thing for me.
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Mar 23, 2024 16:53
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BiggerBoat posted:Don't leave us hanging. What happened to the woman? Did she go back in time? She was Skynet
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Mar 23, 2024 16:55
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I’ve been trying to build skynet for a while now.
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Mar 23, 2024 17:05
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:Terminator is better than Terminator 2. Alien is better than Aliens. An accurate post.  I like the love story of Terminator 1. Terminator 2 still owns though.
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Mar 23, 2024 17:12
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Agreed about Terminator, disagree about Aliens. The T1 v T2 debate. To be clear, I think we can ALL agree both movies are absolute classics and beloved. So what we're talking about is just nuances, points of subjectivity. Not hating. So, that said, I think T1 is the far superior movie. One of the all time great horror movies. T2 is awesome, and is a great sci fi movie, but is far more a "Summer Bombastic Box Office!" movie and it certainly succeeds at that. But when I compare the two, that ranks it lower to me than the small, tense, terrifying T1. It's a low budget indie film V the same director being given a bazillion dollars. That director still kicks rear end and makes a classic, but it's an entirely different beast.
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Mar 23, 2024 17:18
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redshirt posted:She was Skynet poo poo. Been there, brother
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redshirt posted:Agreed about Terminator, disagree about Aliens. Yeah I wasn't hating exactly I just really hate the "have the child actor teach arnold 90's slang for some reason" scene and needed to vent that
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Owlbear Camus posted:Hard agree. He's just absolute menace in every frame. I can't find the interview but apparently he trained himself to be able to mag dump his baretta without flinching; something actors didn't always do in the 80's/90's and set him apart from Arnie's OG termie. I feel like there’s a lot that goes into playing an emotionless killing machine, and it goes underappreciated for both actors. The T-1000 being such a terrifying menace that a man literally jumped out of a helo to get away (and the implied brutal calculation that making him jump was easier than killing him in the seat, which could lead to a crash and inability to pursue the target as fast as possible) was a good touch. redshirt posted:Agreed about Terminator, disagree about Aliens. Alien/Aliens followed a similar-ish track to T1/T2. First one was a horror movie with an unstoppable killer that will track you down and kill you, but one just wanted to make more babies in a horrifying way and the other saw you as an existential threat to be eliminated by any means possible. The sequels had some ABSOLUTE BADASSES on the side of Ripley/Sarah as they fought for Newt/John, and everything still goes to hell in the most spectacular possible ways. The core of “nothing can save you/nothing can stop judgement day” was still there. Now T3 vs Alien 3? T3 all the way, and it’s not even a debate  grading on a curve here, to be sure
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Revins posted:Yeah I wasn't hating exactly I just really hate the "have the child actor teach arnold 90's slang for some reason" scene and needed to vent that The teenage boy was making friends with the killer robot from the future
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Mar 23, 2024 18:10
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500excf type r posted:The teenage boy was making friends with the killer robot from the future No problemo!
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I just LOL that Skynet's choice for an "Infiltrator" model is a 6'3 jacked guy during the apocalypse when people are living on rats.
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T3 was decent, the crane chase was rad and i had a sensible chuckle when the lady terminator made her boobs get bigger after getting pulled over
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redshirt posted:I just LOL that Skynet's choice for an "Infiltrator" model is a 6'3 jacked guy during the apocalypse when people are living on rats. that's one of many reasons jai courtney was a ridiculous recast of kyle reese. beihn looked like a plausible scrappy resistance fighter, courtney looked like a dude who apparently had a post apocalyptic personal trainer and nutritionist 24/7
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:T3 was decent, the crane chase was rad and i had a sensible chuckle when the lady terminator made her boobs get bigger after getting pulled over The cyberdyne presentation about making the terminators lol
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