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Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Robert Patrick is so goddamn good in this. I love how it looks completely effortless when he throws Arnie through the store window. His expression doesn't even slightly change, absolutely no signs of any challenging physical exertion. Same when he breaks into a sprint to chase John as he takes off on his bike.

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Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Quote-Unquote posted:

Robert Patrick is so goddamn good in this. I love how it looks completely effortless when he throws Arnie through the store window. His expression doesn't even slightly change, absolutely no signs of any challenging physical exertion. Same when he breaks into a sprint to chase John as he takes off on his bike.

I said it before in this thread, but both Patrick and Schwarzenegger played their parts to near-perfection. “You are playing a machine, sent to do a job. No more, no less.” sounds like a fairly hard bar to clear, ironically. No emotion, no signs of exertion, don’t even hint that it’s an actual person playing the part.

It’s gotta be a weirdly high bar to clear for someone to pull off that kind of character at all, let alone so well.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Robert Patrick was awesome on the Sopranos

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Robert was apparently an alcoholic during that time although he temporarily cleaned up for the movie since he knew he had to take it super seriously. The years following that movie were lost to a haze of drunkenness and substance abuse which he blames for his career never really taking off. If he would have rolled that dedication immediately into his next role he might have become a really big star instead of “merely” a beloved character actor.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Icon Of Sin posted:

I said it before in this thread, but both Patrick and Schwarzenegger played their parts to near-perfection. “You are playing a machine, sent to do a job. No more, no less.” sounds like a fairly hard bar to clear, ironically. No emotion, no signs of exertion, don’t even hint that it’s an actual person playing the part.

It’s gotta be a weirdly high bar to clear for someone to pull off that kind of character at all, let alone so well.

Right? Like I'm sure there's a rig making Arnie('s stunt double?) go through that window but Patrick really looks like he put a tonne of force into throwing this enormous guy without the tiniest hint of this action being difficult. It's like they're over-acting and under-acting at the same time to be these crazy powerful machines that have zero signs of being living creatures beyond their appearance.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



I think in some ways Furlong is the weakest member of the cast but that's such a high bar that it's not really an insult. Just watching the scene where he and Arnie bond and high five and he's totally believable as a kid that grew up without a dad that now has Best Dad Ever (as far as a 12 year old boy is concerned).

It's a bit jarring how his voice changes but drat, can't help puberty happening during a long shoot.

Time for the bomb scene!

Edit: well that's still horrifying. Why did my parents let me watch these films when I was 8?

Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon

Quote-Unquote posted:

I think in some ways Furlong is the weakest member of the cast but that's such a high bar that it's not really an insult. Just watching the scene where he and Arnie bond and high five and he's totally believable as a kid that grew up without a dad that now has Best Dad Ever (as far as a 12 year old boy is concerned).

It's a bit jarring how his voice changes but drat, can't help puberty happening during a long shoot.

Time for the bomb scene!

Edit: well that's still horrifying. Why did my parents let me watch these films when I was 8?

Because they're awesome and your parents are cool. I too watched it (usually on repeat) when I was like 8.

Speaking of sick performances and the bomb scene, Joe Morton absolutely kills the dying scene.

I also think Edward Furlong did a pretty good job in T2, for a child actor. It's unusual they are really good but he does it well enough that it doesn't take away from the movie. He did pretty drat good in American History X and in Detroit Rock City when he got a bit older and a bit more experience.

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Does Terminator still have to put that they stole from that sex pest bitch Harlan Ellison in the end credits?

What did they steal?

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Real MVP of T2 is the ginger kid from Diff'rent Strokes for instinctively lying to a cop and thus saving all of humanity.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Quote-Unquote posted:

Real MVP of T2 is the ginger kid from Diff'rent Strokes for instinctively lying to a cop and thus saving all of humanity.

That’s Budnick from Salute Your Shorts, and Ug taught him that trick :colbert:

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:

What did they steal?

The idea of time traveling murder robots. Specifically from the short story "Demon with a glass hand".

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Icon Of Sin posted:

That’s Budnick from Salute Your Shorts, and Ug taught him that trick :colbert:

We never got that show in the UK afaik. Most people here never saw Diff'rent Strokes because it was only on cable/satellite TV which very few people had. But that's where I know Danny Cooksey from. I remember watching the opening credits of T2 and asking my parents if that was the same kid from Diff'rent Strokes.

Edit: drat the T1000 finger wag. Why is it trying to taunt its victim? This is another major reason why I like the bits in the EC showing that it is glitching. It's angry now and, in contrast to the T800 that is learning to love to some degree, the T1000 has learned to hate.

Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 27, 2024

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



mllaneza posted:

The idea of time traveling murder robots. Specifically from the short story "Demon with a glass hand".

That and a malevolent AI exterminating all of humanity, from “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Holy poo poo that was Dean Norris in the SWAT team? I don't think I've watched this since watching Breaking Bad.

LOL "play the hit game from LLM/Acclaim on Nintendo" is in the credits. Nooooope!

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

mllaneza posted:

The idea of time traveling murder robots. Specifically from the short story "Demon with a glass hand".

The suit was actually over a different Outer Limits episode called Soldier.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

david_a posted:

The suit was actually over a different Outer Limits episode called Soldier.

The bit with Reese and the criminal psychologist was almost entirely lifted from that episode.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




david_a posted:

The suit was actually over a different Outer Limits episode called Soldier.

it's a good thing I have my memory core set to read/write.

The Oid
Jul 15, 2004

Chibber of worlds

Owlbear Camus posted:

the only screen canon reference is Dark Fate, where the T-800 drapery salesman "carl" who confirms terminator dicks are cosmetic and his wife Alicia is not interested in sex and loves him for his other qualities

There's another one in the TV show. There's a Terminator that goes back in time and marries a woman that Skynet considers important to its development.

If I remember right, it's heavily implied that it can gently caress "because it's designed as an infiltration unit" and if it benefits the mission, it will.

(I Googled and it's Series 1, Episode 8)

The Oid fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Mar 28, 2024

Jimbone Tallshanks
Dec 16, 2005

You can't pull rank on murder.

Good premise for a sitcom. It's T2gether, new episodes weekly on Paramount+

So, did Skynet have to program how to have sex from scratch, or did it find some Cyberdyne employee's secret special project?

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.
You're all missing the point. They never taught murder bots to gently caress. They taught sex bots how to kill.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.

Jimbone Tallshanks posted:

So, did Skynet have to program how to have sex from scratch, or did it find some Cyberdyne employee's secret special project?

"I have detailed files (from Pornhub)"

There are different models, I'd imagine the level of "fully functional" would depend on the purpose and method of infiltration, but it wouldn't be whether they can gently caress that's the main issue, it's whether they can do it without the fact that they have a half-ton titanium endoskeleton causing problems.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Quote-Unquote posted:

Right? Like I'm sure there's a rig making Arnie('s stunt double?) go through that window but Patrick really looks like he put a tonne of force into throwing this enormous guy without the tiniest hint of this action being difficult. It's like they're over-acting and under-acting at the same time to be these crazy powerful machines that have zero signs of being living creatures beyond their appearance.

He also did a ton of training to only breathe through his nose while running because of course a robot wouldn't need to gasp for air, from which he eventually got really fit and ran so fast that he had to deliberately back off so he wouldn't catch up to Eddie Furlong's little dirtbike.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



McSpanky posted:

He also did a ton of training to only breathe through his nose while running because of course a robot wouldn't need to gasp for air, from which he eventually got really fit and ran so fast that he had to deliberately back off so he wouldn't catch up to Eddie Furlong's little dirtbike.

loving hell, that’s some attention to detail that I never consciously noticed :stare:

Jimbone Tallshanks
Dec 16, 2005

You can't pull rank on murder.

Parkingtigers posted:

You're all missing the point. They never taught murder bots to gently caress. They taught sex bots how to kill.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



McSpanky posted:

He also did a ton of training to only breathe through his nose while running because of course a robot wouldn't need to gasp for air, from which he eventually got really fit and ran so fast that he had to deliberately back off so he wouldn't catch up to Eddie Furlong's little dirtbike.

That's awesome, never noticed that before.

032824
Mar 28, 2024
Big Lips is above this Terminator :colbert:

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I posted this in the Aliens thread but I’ll cross-post it here:

Predator vs Terminator story pitch

It follows from the first two Terminator movies as a sort of alternate timeline thing, in two halves. The first half is set in 1984 - the Terminator is tracking Sarah Connor, but a Predator has come to Los Angeles to hunt. His shoulder cannon is damaged early in his hunt, taking it off the table for the rest of the story. He spots the commotion at Tech Noir and his interest is piqued, so he fires a spear at the Terminator… to no effect. This puzzles the Predator, as does its weird thermal signature, so he starts actively hunting it. Confused as to how it keeps shrugging off what should be lethal damage for a human and can seemingly see right through its traps and camouflage, the Predator continues its pursuit. The Terminator, being increasingly sidetracked by the Predator’s attacks, re-prioritizes the Predator as a threat to its mission, and actively engages him - it turns into a knock-down drag-out brawl, but the Predator comes out on top. Satisfied, he claims the Terminator’s endoskull, and leaves.

Part two takes place years later, when the Predator returns to earth for another hunt.
In 2028, in fact. As in, post Judgment Day.
The Predator is a little confused as to why Earth is a nuclear hellscape, but doesn’t get much time to think about it as Skynet detects his ship and shoots it down, leaving the Predator stranded in the ruins of LA. Now being beset on all sides by murderous robots and hostile Resistance fighters, the Predator has to use every trick up his sleeve to stay one step ahead of his pursuers and find a way off the planet. Worth noting is that Skynet might be interested in easy interstellar travel once it figures out that the Predator is from outer space.

ChairmanMauzer
Dec 30, 2004

It wears a human face.
I'd watch those movies.

Mindless
Dec 7, 2001

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As a special experiment, Skynet locks away a T-800 and T-1000 pair in a deep bunker with a time machine to visit the future and report back on Skynet's future. The odd couple emerge in a desolate wasteland. Skynet was destroyed, except them, and humanity moved on into space. But they're not here now. Something went wrong. Once habitable places are now filled with Xenomorph eggs. Impervious to their biological attacks but not to their acidic blood, the pair clear nest after nest of wild xenonorph mutations to reactivate the defense backups with a Skynet virus, then escape to the past before the entire Earth is nuked.

I realize there are some plot holes and I will not be addressing them

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

ChairmanMauzer posted:

I'd watch those movies.

SAme.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Mindless posted:

As a special experiment, Skynet locks away a T-800 and T-1000 pair in a deep bunker with a time machine to visit the future and report back on Skynet's future. The odd couple emerge in a desolate wasteland. Skynet was destroyed, except them, and humanity moved on into space. But they're not here now. Something went wrong. Once habitable places are now filled with Xenomorph eggs. Impervious to their biological attacks but not to their acidic blood, the pair clear nest after nest of wild xenonorph mutations to reactivate the defense backups with a Skynet virus, then escape to the past before the entire Earth is nuked.

I realize there are some plot holes and I will not be addressing them

riffing on your idea:


A T-800 and a cyber-hybrid are fighting during the final attack on Skynet. They fall into a time portal that Skynet has created in its desperation to escape. The T-800 wakes up in a desolate wasteland a thousand years in the future - just in time to see the a Weyland-Yutani ship tumble through the atmosphere. Thinking that the ship remains must incorporate some form of Skynet, it makes its way to the wreckage and begins reassembling the computers. Camera cuts to intact cargo containers full of xenomorph eggs. As the T-800 scans the rebuilt ship computer logs, it realizes that the weapon onboard is the ultimate solution to exterminating humanity
Cyber-hybrid emerges from the timestream 50 years later in a human outpost. Mankind has mostly abandoned earth because of the ecological damage. The cyber-hybrid joins the militia, which is sent out to investigate why small outposts have been disappearing completely. They go to Las Vegas-426 and find all of the people missing, with battle damage all over, with only the entrance point a subterreanean tunnel. There are huge holes cut vertically throughout the outpost, seemingly from acid. There is a skeleton that appears to have been made from metal, destroyed from weapons, which the cyber-hybrid immediately recognizes as a Terminator but they're unfamiliar with the model. The acid doesnt appear to affect the endoskeleton.
The T-800, now old Arnie, has built a Skynet base, and is producing terminators to shepherd the xenomorphs. The queen is restrained and very unhappy. The xenomorphs realize they are being controlled by the robots and revolt. During the revolution, the original T-800 is damaged. The cyber-hybrid finds it and repairs it. Together the T-800, the cyber-hybrid, and the remaining human militia must fight a desperate battle against both Skynet and the Queen to protect the remaining human life on Earth

TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsSRE5wl6ew&t=13s

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

Quote-Unquote posted:

Holy poo poo that was Dean Norris in the SWAT team? I don't think I've watched this since watching Breaking Bad.

LOL "play the hit game from LLM/Acclaim on Nintendo" is in the credits. Nooooope!

lmao im watching t2 on tv at a hotel while reading through this thread and was just about to post this if no one else had

tv edits of r rated movies are so loving weaksauce, they cut all the shots of the melting dummys and exploding skeleton from the nuke scene

Jimbone Tallshanks
Dec 16, 2005

You can't pull rank on murder.

Xenomrph posted:


Part two takes place years later, when the Predator returns to earth for another hunt.
In 2028, in fact. As in, post Judgment Day.
The Predator is a little confused as to why Earth is a nuclear hellscape, but doesn’t get much time to think about it as Skynet detects his ship and shoots it down, leaving the Predator stranded in the ruins of LA. Now being beset on all sides by murderous robots and hostile Resistance fighters, the Predator has to use every trick up his sleeve to stay one step ahead of his pursuers and find a way off the planet. Worth noting is that Skynet might be interested in easy interstellar travel once it figures out that the Predator is from outer space.

In a post-credit scene, two predators are flying their ship when they get an alert. Subtitles translate the message: evidence of time travel has been detected on a known inhabited world. They are obligated to investigate.

They land on what was once an industrial area of some ruined Earth city. They both exit the ship, armed and quickly entering stealth mode. One seems to detect something and trains his weapon in its direction only to go down from a burst of automatic gunfire shredding it's knee.

The second predator aims it's shoulder cannon only for it to also be taken out by gunfire. We hear the loud thudding of heavy steps, the PoV shifts to the assailant's thermal vision, showing how the predators were such way targets. They get a target lock on the remaining, unarmed predator, and we hear some iconic words:

"Your move, creep."

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

This was a long suppressed memory. Absolute trashfire in concept and execution. The lyrics are all just about manners and politeness and dealing with social situations... ah yes, the thing we all remember most from Terminator films.

Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon
How does the time travel work btw, in where people end up geographically? Can they choose?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I'm not sure If they ever say, but in the films I think everyone arrives in LA implying limited geographic range.

which is actually funny because given the constant movement of the planet time travel even a couple seconds into the past or future without some kind of serious location compensation would put you in space

Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon

Owlbear Camus posted:

I'm not sure If they ever say, but in the films I think everyone arrives in LA implying limited geographic range.

which is actually funny because given the constant movement of the planet time travel even a couple seconds into the past or future without some kind of serious location compensation would put you in space

This has always been a weird way to look at it to me. Sure, earth moves but so does the sun and the galaxy and everything else. The time machine might as well consider itself the center of the universe as anything else because there is nothing concrete to call "the center" and so everything moves. If the machine itself is the center of the universe you would not end up in space.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Owlbear Camus posted:

I'm not sure If they ever say, but in the films I think everyone arrives in LA implying limited geographic range.

which is actually funny because given the constant movement of the planet time travel even a couple seconds into the past or future without some kind of serious location compensation would put you in space

Any time machine has to be a "space/time" machine for this point. You'd just end up floating in space instead of 1984 LA

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Man with Hat
Dec 26, 2007

Open up your Dethday present
It's a box of fucking nothing

Exciting Lemon

redshirt posted:

Any time machine has to be a "space/time" machine for this point. You'd just end up floating in space instead of 1984 LA

Where in space though? Let's say an hour time travel, do you end up 67,000 miles into space, 514000 miles into space, 1,3 million miles into space or some other number? I'm sticking with time machines make themselves the center of the universe and everything rotates around them because it's all relative

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