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Dec 26, 2008



SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Terminators 3 through 5 ALL make the mistake of forgetting/ignoring that The Terminator was as much a horror movie as it was anything else.

Absolutely loving unstoppable killing machines. Nothing* you can do, nowhere you can hide, it will cross both time and space to find you and end you. No time or place is safe once Skynet decides you’re on the target list.

*environmental kills are the only real way in the 80’s and and 90’s.

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Dec 26, 2008



Owlbear Camus posted:

Hard agree. He's just absolute menace in every frame. I can't find the interview but apparently he trained himself to be able to mag dump his baretta without flinching; something actors didn't always do in the 80's/90's and set him apart from Arnie's OG termie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgibX4BCYBw

I feel like there’s a lot that goes into playing an emotionless killing machine, and it goes underappreciated for both actors. The T-1000 being such a terrifying menace that a man literally jumped out of a helo to get away (and the implied brutal calculation that making him jump was easier than killing him in the seat, which could lead to a crash and inability to pursue the target as fast as possible) was a good touch.

redshirt posted:

Agreed about Terminator, disagree about Aliens.

Alien/Aliens followed a similar-ish track to T1/T2. First one was a horror movie with an unstoppable killer that will track you down and kill you, but one just wanted to make more babies in a horrifying way and the other saw you as an existential threat to be eliminated by any means possible. The sequels had some ABSOLUTE BADASSES on the side of Ripley/Sarah as they fought for Newt/John, and everything still goes to hell in the most spectacular possible ways.

The core of “nothing can save you/nothing can stop judgement day” was still there.

Now T3 vs Alien 3? T3 all the way, and it’s not even a debate :v:

grading on a curve here, to be sure

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Dec 26, 2008



You Are A Werewolf posted:

Your foster parents are dead.



Technocrat posted:

My favorite episode of TSCC was "Self Made Man", partly because it did the "Terminator arrives in different period" approach.

Sent to assassinate the governor of California at a hotel in 2009, the Terminator accidentally lands in a speakeasy in the twenties. In the process, he also unwittingly kills the guy who would have built the hotel.

So, the Terminator starts a construction business empire in order to ensure the hotel will still be there in the future. The people of the thirties hate him for his egalitarian hiring policies, and find it unusual that he joins in on the work sites himself.

Is this the one that had a special tiny room built for him in the target building, powers down for a while, then Kook-Aid Man’s his way through the wall and wrecks his target out of loving nowhere?

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Dec 26, 2008



Quote-Unquote posted:

Robert Patrick is so goddamn good in this. I love how it looks completely effortless when he throws Arnie through the store window. His expression doesn't even slightly change, absolutely no signs of any challenging physical exertion. Same when he breaks into a sprint to chase John as he takes off on his bike.

I said it before in this thread, but both Patrick and Schwarzenegger played their parts to near-perfection. “You are playing a machine, sent to do a job. No more, no less.” sounds like a fairly hard bar to clear, ironically. No emotion, no signs of exertion, don’t even hint that it’s an actual person playing the part.

It’s gotta be a weirdly high bar to clear for someone to pull off that kind of character at all, let alone so well.

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Dec 26, 2008



Quote-Unquote posted:

Real MVP of T2 is the ginger kid from Diff'rent Strokes for instinctively lying to a cop and thus saving all of humanity.

That’s Budnick from Salute Your Shorts, and Ug taught him that trick :colbert:

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Dec 26, 2008



McSpanky posted:

He also did a ton of training to only breathe through his nose while running because of course a robot wouldn't need to gasp for air, from which he eventually got really fit and ran so fast that he had to deliberately back off so he wouldn't catch up to Eddie Furlong's little dirtbike.

loving hell, that’s some attention to detail that I never consciously noticed :stare:

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