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ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog
Warhammer 40k is also one of those properties where the art has gradually become less awesome over time as budgets and and artist skills went up:



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Valko
Sep 18, 2015

Computer viking posted:

I vaguely recall WH40k as being yet another case of someone writing an over the top "look at these dumb space fascists in a setting where everything is hilariously bad and dumb" and it taking roughly fifteen minutes before the majority of the readers were unironic fans of the space fascists?

Does that surprise you?

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

Remember when games workshop tried to jump-start a young adult novel series for 40k?

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
I hate GW but I like little army mans so now I print my own and play One Page Rules.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

It's a bad mishmash of poo poo cribbed from other, better sources, and it has one of the worst fanbases imaginable, pass.

neato burrito
Aug 25, 2002

bitch better have my chex mix

WH40K nerds, in my experience; are more likely to be slovenly and socially awkward than your average run of the mill pedestrian nerd.

Eclipse12
Feb 20, 2008

What's up with Tau? GW make a faction and then just flat-out forget about it?

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

i went to like a paint your first figure at the 40k store a little while ago and one of the guys there talked to me about his amazing blockchain implementation idea. i asked him some basic questions about how he expected it to work and he handwaved them away.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
I went to a warhams tournament at the race track. It was held in a big hall/vendor area, every side had giant roll-up doors. The entire building was wide open, with a decent breeze, and it still stunk bad in there.

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001

Southern Cassowary posted:

i went to like a paint your first figure at the 40k store a little while ago and one of the guys there talked to me about his amazing blockchain implementation idea. i asked him some basic questions about how he expected it to work and he handwaved them away.

The only reason I don't play Warhammer is because it would require me to interact with the type of people who do.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

neato burrito posted:

WH40K nerds, in my experience; are more likely to be slovenly and socially awkward than your average run of the mill pedestrian nerd.

Which is weird given that it's a social game

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

cult_hero posted:

The only reason I don't play Warhammer is because it would require me to interact with the type of people who do.

Thats fine in person tbh. I can deal with a socially awkward nerd irl or someone overly enthusiastic about liking their overpriced bullshit, but it's the people online that make the poo poo super annoying.

I like terrain building for example, but the subreddits for it are filled with weird rear end mfers.

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

Are the Eldar in 40k actually Elves?

I know they're ha ha space elves, but from Warhammer to 40k did the Elves just turn into Eldar or were Elves devolved Eldar since they were around for so long and just landed on a Warham planet that had dorfs, orks, hugh mons, and dinosaur people.

For that matter are the dinosaur race just biggarlier lizardmen, or somth?

naem
May 29, 2011

Eclipse12 posted:

What's up with Tau? GW make a faction and then just flat-out forget about it?

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
I like the part where half of the bad poo poo that went down in the empire could have been avoided if the Emperor just wasn't a piece of poo poo and actually talked to his large clone sons or maybe even hugged them.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

It used to have dwarves on motorcycles, but then got rid of them, so it's bad

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Nuebot posted:

I like the part where half of the bad poo poo that went down in the empire could have been avoided if the Emperor just wasn't a piece of poo poo and actually talked to his large clone sons or maybe even hugged them.

I'm glad the recently-completed book series continued to crib from Dune in the area of "messianic figures are bullshit and benevolent dictatorships will always crumble, even if you put immortal psychic supermen on the seat of power (especially if you put immortal psychic supermen).

It's also nice that you don't have to read any of that poo poo and you can just enjoy space rambo adventures instead

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

scr*nt

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

covidstomper58 posted:

Are the Eldar in 40k actually Elves?

I know they're ha ha space elves, but from Warhammer to 40k did the Elves just turn into Eldar or were Elves devolved Eldar since they were around for so long and just landed on a Warham planet that had dorfs, orks, hugh mons, and dinosaur people.

For that matter are the dinosaur race just biggarlier lizardmen, or somth?

they used to imply that warhammer fantasy was just one world cut off by warp storms in the 40k universe but they don't talk about that any more and haven't for a while. connection is *shrug* at this point.

interestingly in AoS the lizards went back to space and are now space dinosaurs made of starlight, except for some who touched grass too long and are now extra-strength original dinosaur men.

Redwall 40k also got glossed over and that's bullshit, I wanna see mice vs orks.

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

Thread for posting how you are definitely too cool for warhammer. :lofty:

rain dogs
Apr 19, 2020

Orks

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

sugar free jazz posted:

I’m teh horney type of space demon

You are a pillar of society

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

Warhammer 40Gay

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Mr Teatime posted:

Thread for posting how you are definitely too cool for warhammer. :lofty:

Impossible; Warhammer is the coolest thing out there

TK8325
Sep 22, 2014



orks really are the coolest. every other faction is just try hard bullshit

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

ChickenHeart posted:

Impossible; Warhammer is the coolest thing out there



lol

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

EorayMel posted:

Warhammer 40k is idiot poo poo for fuckers OP

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

TK8325 posted:

orks really are the coolest. every other faction is just try hard bullshit

Orks are legit funny as poo poo and own

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Orks are legit funny as poo poo and own

the opening of Space Marine owns, GE' OFF ME SHIP SPACE MARINE

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Valko posted:

Does that surprise you?



Looks like it's precariously close to splitting right down the crotch and crushing all of those weird fascist dipshits beneath it.

Laopooh
Jul 15, 2000

Anyone have a link to that site with grimdark 40k lore? I remember reading some story about slaves on a battleship getting pumped full of steroids and pulling huge chains to load ammo or something.

Also someone should post the stimperor gif where he's wearing a crown of needles.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Bad Purchase posted:

you can knock fascism all you want but i don’t see any human worlds where democracy or socialism are keeping the ruinous powers in check

Honestly, in that universe, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. The Emperor's whole idea was 'Get rid of all superstition and religious belief and it would starve the bad evil forces that feed on that' and it's basically been outright said that all that would have done is create a new Chaos god representing disbelief. The only way in that universe to not feed Chaos is to be mindless like the space bugs or emotionless like the space terminators. And as the kinky sexgod's creation shows, creating a new chaos god is a REAL BAD SCENE, MAN.

Laopooh posted:

Anyone have a link to that site with grimdark 40k lore?

You mean, like 90 percent of it?

Hell, people will grimdark events in the universe even when it's not only not necessary, but it flies in the face of what the characters would do, and even if the writer LIKES those characters. There was a case where some Grey Knights, who are basically humanity's version of super paladins, incredibly strong, none have ever been corrupted by bad things ever, if anyone could be said to be 'good guys' it's them, they ran into a caste of the warrior women who are also part of the human side, the Sisters of Battle I think? And they decided that in order to defeat some forces of evil, the best solution was to kill their own allies and paint their armor with the sisters' blood to make them super extra special holy. This is basically akin to Superman deciding that the best way to fight crime is to cauterize burn off the arms and legs of every criminal he encounters so they can't do crimes any more. And the guy who wrote this was actually a supposed big fan of the Knights, heck I think he was running a large chunk of the show and had written the most recent rules so the Knights were broken AF on the tabletop.

At some point, it almost becomes a PMM/compulsion to make it GRIMDARK.

Foxfire_ posted:

It used to have dwarves on motorcycles, but then got rid of them, so it's bad

I think they came back, but they now mainly fly on one man blimp steampunk slash futuretech things as their main gimmick.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Mar 26, 2024

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

Poohs Packin posted:

I was at the mall with my wife and she had to buy some clothes and suggested I go "hang out at the warhammer store or something".

Ive never played or shown any interest in WH40k.

lol owned

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Okay full disclosure. My singular warhams experience was playing a game for the first time at a friends house and he had a full squad fully painted cool as gently caress space marines and I got to play as eldar and just got absolutely rinsed.

He was delighted at how much fun he was having beating me even though I didnt really grasp the rules and it seemed lame and cheaty that none of my shots landed. I didnt understand the rulebook really and just had to go on his word that my unpainted space geeks were vastly inferior to his murder squad.

A year layer the same friend tried to pass off a very popular and well known electronica song as his own FruityLoops production and refused to open the piano roll when I asked him.

When I tried to get him to explain how he had basically become a professional music producer overnight he told me, "i asked my mom to help me with the transitions shes good at it".

Anyways Josh is a cheater and a liar and ruined WH40k. Probably dodged a bullet tbqh.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

ive never actually played any warhammer tabletop games at all but i used to enjoy reading the big player manual for their fantasy rpg, i enjoyed the sort of late renaissance period based setting, as opposed to the more medieval approach in dungeons and dragons. although their "fantasy world" was just a badly drawn map of europe which i thought was lazy and dumb as hell

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Poohs Packin posted:

I was at the mall with my wife and she had to buy some clothes and suggested I go "hang out at the warhammer store or something".

Ive never played or shown any interest in WH40k.

lmao

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

Earwicker posted:

ive never actually played any warhammer tabletop games at all but i used to enjoy reading the big player manual for their fantasy rpg, i enjoyed the sort of late renaissance period based setting, as opposed to the more medieval approach in dungeons and dragons. although their "fantasy world" was just a badly drawn map of europe which i thought was lazy and dumb as hell

I tried playing a battle once with my fantasy world army and it was so dull. I just wanted to paint my little dudes and look at the cool pictures.

TK8325
Sep 22, 2014



Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:

I just wanted to paint my little dudes and look at the cool pictures.

thats the way i play. gently caress rolling dice

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Eclipse12
Feb 20, 2008

Nuebot posted:

I like the part where half of the bad poo poo that went down in the empire could have been avoided if the Emperor just wasn't a piece of poo poo and actually talked to his large clone sons or maybe even hugged them.

"Hey guys, I'm gonna go work on a cool teleportation device back on Earth. Don't tell no one. I loooooovvvveee yoooouuuu."

Heresy averted.

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