zoux posted:

zoux posted:

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/matthewkawahara/status/1773376138087125369

Wouldja look at that, a modern, data supported full power lineup. Zero vibes here. No one "earning" poo poo

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/matthewkawahara/status/1773376138087125369

Wouldja look at that, a modern, data supported full power lineup. Zero vibes here. No one "earning" poo poo

mcmagic posted:

lots of scumbags and cheaters imo

tadashi posted:

Honestly, I wish people would try to cheat more in baseball. Not over the top cheating like PEDs and banging schemes, but just trying little things as much as possible.

R.D. Mangles posted:

https://x.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1773382869903085765?s=20

Tatsuta Age posted:

Warming Bernabel

Furnaceface posted:

Bobson Dugnutt

How should I, a casual fan of the Tonto Blue Jays, set my expectations? Right now they are at "Probably not great but could be fun to watch".

zoux posted:

3rd in the AL East

Furnaceface posted:

Bobson Dugnutt

How should I, a casual fan of the Tonto Blue Jays, set my expectations? Right now they are at "Probably not great but could be fun to watch".

bawfuls posted:

This is a good expectation to set for like 90% of baseball teams

Furnaceface posted:

Bobson Dugnutt

How should I, a casual fan of the Tonto Blue Jays, set my expectations? Right now they are at "Probably not great but could be fun to watch".

Mike_V posted:

I don't know why I only just realized this after a lifetime of playing and watching baseball and hearing "6-4-3 double play" a million times, but why are the infield positions numbered like this (specifically why is SS out of order)?

5-6-4-3

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Shannon recalls that, out of nowhere, Bradley began talking about a great ancient conflict between rival camps of scorers, one of which favored the shortstop as “5” and the other as “6.” The inevitable clash occurred, Bradley told him, at the first game of the first modern World’s Series.

The World’s Series, of course, had gone out with a whimper and not a bang in 1890. Though the Brooklyn Bridegrooms and Louisville Cyclones had been tied at three wins apiece, disinterest in that war-ravaged season was so profound that attendance at the last three games had been 1,000, 600, and 300, respectively. They didn’t even bother to play the decisive game.

Thus when the series was restored 13 years later, every attempt was made to keep haphazardness and informality out of the proceedings. Not just one official scorer was required, but two — and the two foremost baseball media stars of the time: Francis C. Richter of Philadelphia, the publisher and editor of Sporting Life, and Joseph Flanner of St. Louis, editor of The Sporting News.

Hugh Bradley could not have witnessed it, but he could have heard it second- or third-hand. As the rivals from the two publications filled out their scorecards, somewhere in the teeming confusion of the Huntington Avenue Grounds in Boston, somebody — probably the more volatile Flanner — peeked.

And he didn’t like what he saw.

Richter was numbering Pittsburgh shortstop Honus Wagner as “5” and third baseman Tommy Leach as “6.”

Questioned by Flanner, Richter supposedly responded that that was the way they kept score where he came from, and why would anybody do it any differently?

The basis of their argument was supposed to have been regional. The shortstop, Bradley told Shannon, was still a comparatively new innovation in the game, and it really defined two different positions. In Flanner’s Midwest, he was positioned much like the softball short-fielders, not truly an infielder and thus not meriting an interruption of the natural numbering of the basemen. In Richter’s East, the shortstop had developed into what he is today — the second baseman’s twin. So what if he didn’t anchor a bag? It was second baseman “4,” shortstop “5,” third baseman “6” and don’t they have any good eye doctors out there in St. Louis, friend Flanner?

Bradley’s recounting of the conflict had voices being raised and dark oaths being sworn before the more malleable Richter gave way, little knowing that he was ceding the issue forever on behalf of generations to come who saw the same logical flaw he had seen.

Bill Shannon’s authority on such matters is near absolute. He can not only recount virtually every game he’s ever seen, but can also run down the personnel histories of the sports departments at the dearly departed of New York’s newspapers. He believes in the long-gone Bradley’s saga of near-fisticuffs between Richter and Flanner — while ‘Nuf Sed McGreevey and his Royal Rooters worked themselves into a frenzy before the first pitch of the 1903 Series — because of its likely provenance.

One of Bradley’s writers when he was sports editor of the Post in the ‘30s was Fred Lieb, himself almost antediluvian enough to have witnessed the Flanner-Richter showdown. Shannon suspects Bradley got the story from Lieb, and that Lieb had gotten it from his fellow Philadelphian Francis Richter.

For now, that’s all we’ve got — a pretty good-sounding anecdote.

Furnaceface posted:

As primarily a hockey fan it is an expectation that is often not met so that is good to know.

Furnaceface posted:

Bobson Dugnutt

How should I, a casual fan of the Tonto Blue Jays, set my expectations? Right now they are at "Probably not great but could be fun to watch".

Eric the Mauve posted:

Doesn't that mean they're still paying him? You'd think it would be the restricted list.

Mustached Demon posted:

Go cubs.

Exodor posted:

Hoping we can avoid another 100 loss season this year. Yeah, you could say I have high expectations.

will_colorado posted:

welp, it's time to prepare for another 162 game season of Rockies baseball....
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Inspector_666 posted:

The funniest possible outcome is players hoarding old uniforms even as they visibly come apart on them.

Isentropy posted:

Praying for you to win 80 and for the Monforts to hire a manager sell the team

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I will take the Detroit Tigers having signs of being real good in the near future please