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Seth Pecksniff posted:Honestly idk it makes no sense that consciousness exists to be destroyed so it stands to reason it probably has to go somewhere That which can be created can be destroyed. I don't think trillions of consciousnesses (only billions if you don't count non-human ones, also only accounting for life on Earth) have been around since the instant of the big bang, so makes sense that consciousness has to be created.
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Pontificating rear end posted:Consciousness would exist independent of this universe, which itself is probably one of relatively infinite universes. Also, if you look at the universe as a whole, from start to finish, the number of souls does not change, it's a finite number. A finite number which is presumably less than the actual number of unassociated souls (also some number approaching infinity). Why obvious? At what moment does a soul enter a body and how would it look or act differently if it didn't have a soul?
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Pontificating rear end posted:Any terms we use to try to suss out the mechanics of consciousness will never work, because we'll just end up in the weeds. Best we can do is some sort of philosophical Occam's razor, which imho is that consciousness is in inherent in life; yes, every living thing has some form of a "soul." I'd go so far to say consciousness is inherent to the universe (or a greater metaphysical multiverse), and furthermore if a universe does not include consciousness it essentially never exists at all. All the business about conscious causing wave collapse and the like aside, which just feels like trying to wrap religious concepts up in scientific jargon, I tend to agree with the line of thought that consciousness is in some way an intrinsic property of matter, in the same way mass, charge, and the like are. But at the base level it's so simple that it only becomes recognizable as consciousness as an emergent thing in a complex system like a mind. That also means it's not really useful to think of the individual base units continuing as reincarnation or a soul or continuation of consciousness in any meaningful way. When a brain dies the exact same matter is there, the same base units of consciousness, but the organization and connection is lost such that it ceases to behave as one larger consciousness.
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If someone is cryogenically frozen at the moment of death, does their soul stay stuck in that dead body or move on? If it moves on, what happens if some far future technology manages to repair and resuscitate that person?
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Apr 11, 2024 10:32
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The Bible posted:I mean, we aren't going to spawn in a time/place that doesn't support life, so of course. Clearly a random sewer rat in medieval Europe had an eternal soul, because what are the odds of that particular rat existing at that particular time and place.
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The Bible posted:
That's a good example. I'm fond of car license plates as well. Every drive it is astronomically unlikely to have seen those particular license plates on other cars in the combination you did.
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