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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1777724030440628648

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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/Bretosionic/status/1777884332033470853

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1778100896808800487

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/YaarDabestaani/status/1778232845510545732

https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1778391642694709256

Danann has issued a correction as of 04:17 on Apr 13, 2024

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/AnimarchyYT/status/1778996674486206580

totally not owned and showing the houthis why the us has no healthcare

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1779282710181081146
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1779287076334178351
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1779307674594684971

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/andrewmichta/status/1779332207401718070

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1778854099003249077

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/itsmichalll/status/1779255370604597396
https://twitter.com/MarshaBlackburn/status/1779249940344045970

Danann has issued a correction as of 04:17 on Apr 15, 2024

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/andreas_krieg/status/1778855948561342899

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/melissakchan/status/1779865536681181432

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/zaugurz/status/1779589021192048960

alternatively: the us will lose ww3 because it has no industry, only spreadsheet touching

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

that graph shows that per capita CO2 emissions hit a peak around the year 2000, and then has been declining ever since

but, we know that the Earth has only been getting hotter since then

so if you take this as some kind of evidence that things are getting better... that's plainly climate change denialism

https://twitter.com/GalenMetzger1/status/1779590520383152352

speak of the devil, :ukraine: emoji havers agree

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/Madame_Ennui/status/1780015250005196867

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/ManilanH/status/1779936588425760917

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Danann
Aug 4, 2013



just remembered that this guy was advising over being forced out of one country and then diving wholesale into two more wars and a dying economy

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/jewstein3000/status/1780590066978468134

I think about “Havana Syndrome” a lot and maybe that’s because of my experiences. I was immediately made sick from the air around Ground Zero and told it was safe and to return to work. I never recovered. 1/

Since then I have had such severe chemical sensitivity that I’ve had to move constantly and I’ve been gaslit every single time I’ve pointed out gas leaks, mold, pesticide (and where I could, I’ve always been proven right). 2/

I was exposed to the Dominguez Channel chemical spill in 2021 and knew right away the government was lying about it being caused by natural phenomena (and was proven right). 3/

I’ve been exposed to people feeling the need to downplay environmental exposures my whole life, even before 9/11, as a sensitive person.

With Havana Syndrome, we had people reporting similar symptoms in one building then other buildings. They had in common their employment. 4/

The CIA minimized and denied their claims. That was expected. They did the same with Agent Orange.

Yet for some reason, there is a large group of people overly focused on denying these patients who seem to think it’s a CIA-backed story. 5/

And there are people obsessed with denying the claims of people who experienced so-called “Havana Syndrome,” even though it’s a small group of people, not supported by the govt, not really affecting anyone’s lives, 6/

The point I should have led with is this: The people obsessed with denying Havana Syndrome will hide behind politics, claiming that it’s racist, that it’s a CIA story, etc.

But ultimately I think it’s just about the pleasure people get from disease denial 7/

There are whole Reddit communities around calling people fakers who say they are sick.

Tweets that claim disabled people are lying or exaggerating are almost always popular. It’s sport!! 8/

I think it comes from the internalized ableism that is at the heart of all ableism: denying disease or illness or physical weakness or sensitivities etc is a way to convince yourself that you have control over your body.

Control you don’t have! Sorry. 9/

It’s connected to the Door Dash discourse: leftists claimed they cared so much about workers they had to deny the experience of disabled people who said they needed their food delivered.

But that was a cover.

These same labor activists had nothing to say about consuming produce from exploited farm workers, admitted to eating in restaurants where workers disproportionately died of Covid, etc.

The discourse became almost entirely about how the disabled people had to be lying.

And not surprisingly some of the Doordash folks also think it’s fun to mock Havana Syndrome.

This is why political allegiance is meaningless to most marginalized groups. We see how you use the rhetoric of politics to play your favorite game: punching down.

I also think it’s fallen out of favor on the left to deny Long Covid (though people like Natalie Shure still do) because it’s so widespread and there’s no political cover for it. They can’t claim it’s a fiction by the govt.

So that’s where Havana Syndrome stepped in.

But it’s still popular on the left to deny chronic Lyme, despite major institutions like Johns Hopkins establishing centers to investigate and treat it. And other rare illnesses.

At best, the deniers will hide behind “Big Pharma” to create a political cover story for ableism.

FYI dunno for sure the cause of “Havana Syndrome,” but the US has been developing microwave radiation technology since at least the Cold War and there were examples of known tests of it in the year before Havana Syndrome was named.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1780593040333410440


the stancil demands exploitation

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

juror 4 gets the news exclusively from an exclusive social club: the something awful forums

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/sock_dem/status/1782135170486964602

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

community notes are written by the same people who become mods lol

Danann
Aug 4, 2013


do any of them realize that they're implicitly associating democracy with unlimited war and failing infrastructure while associating authoritarianism with self-defense and working economies

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

VitalSigns posted:

Also pretty sure that cuts both ways, if they're afraid they might lose because of it.

Sounds like they care more about banning TikTok than saving democracy

(Well unless democracy means not watching pro-Palestinian reels on TikTok now)

feels like i'm cursed by good long term memory to remember the popular folk tale of yesteryear of the prosperous city on the hill that didn't spend all its money on weapons was how the us won the cold war

democrats just want to invoke vibes without any of the icky material changes that happens like increasing unionization as a result of industrialization

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/KnowingBetterYT/status/1782817730527129794

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1783645631556280557

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I gave a presentation this morning, partly about Afghanistan. On the drive home it set me thinking.

My hunch is that part of the reason for Western protests about Gaza is a total failure to understand what urban war is, and what it looks like, and people are horrified to see it. Totally understandable. Now couple that to a powerful disinformation campaign that exploits those feelings of horror and tells them what they’re seeing and can’t comprehend (urban war) is something else (genocide).

As a commander in Afghanistan on my first two tours, which were before the “counterinsurgency” era, I saw my job as being to apply maximum violence to kill the enemy legally within rules of engagement. If I had a Harrier or an A-10 or an Apache to call on, I’d use that as a first option. If not, I’d use mortars or Javelin or machine guns if I had them. Only as a last resort would I commit my rifle sections.

That’s war. And that’s what Israel is fighting, on a far more brutal scale. Hamas and the surrounding Iranian proxies are an existential threat to Israel’s existence as a country. It’s that which people in the West fail to understand. We’re used to expeditionary wars of choice on the other side of the world. Israel has kibbutzim 5km from where their troops are fighting. The IDF in Gaza can look over their shoulders and see their home. It’s a totally different perspective on war from the one we in the West are used to.

Hamas have to be deleted as a fighting force for Israel to survive as a country with safe borders. To achieve that is the single most basic function of government. This isn’t a war Israel wants but it’s one they’ve been forced to fight. They’ve already taken double the fatalities the British did in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

If they wanted to, they could stand off with jets, and hit Gaza City and Khan Younis and Rafah simultaneously and level the place - and legally. If it’s a military target and you can justify the collateral damage, the law of armed conflict says that’s legal. That Israel hasn’t done that tells you all you need to know about whether this is a genocide or not.

I don’t blame people for being sucked in by disinformation about Gaza. It’s been sophisticated and effective information warfare. I have no limits to my contempt for those who throw around “genocide” when they know perfectly well it isn’t. The most serious of crimes shouldn’t be debased like that, and shame on South Africa and their allies who have abused international law in this way.

War is horrifying, brutal, and extremely violent. Gaza isn’t a conventional counter-terror campaign. We saw on 7 October how well armed, organised and tactically aware Hamas are. They use human and humanitarian shields. They’ve forced Israel into the only appropriate response, and it’s the innocents in Gaza who suffer. That the numbers of innocents injured and killed is so low is a testament to the IDF using tactics that have incurred far higher IDF casualties than other options on the table.

“War is hell” is a cliche for a reason. But it’s nothing more than a war that we see in Gaza.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

mawarannahr posted:

what's the Deal With people who Capitalize Weirdly

symptom of troop brain probably

Danann
Aug 4, 2013



:whitewater:

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/Mr_Andrew_Fox/status/1783512305050734761

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/D3andB/status/1783217867896258671

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/davidpgoldman/status/1783918472700842182

the supposed evil seeseepee spy in the AfD is actually an informant for the german government

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Trabisnikof posted:

College kids are protesting a conflict on the other side of the world, while their freedoms and future is being ripped away from them right in front of their eyes. It's like a car crash in slow motion. I'm on the other side of the pond, and it feels like I'm shouting into an abyss to get people to realise what's happening.

If the US loses it's democracy, I'm not only scared for you all, but the rest of us in western democracies.

i'm guessing this is a finnish poster in gbs

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/peel_slowly/status/1785050872873206098

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Shageletic posted:

whats going on in finland

putin derangement syndrome where every bad thing is because of putin especially the rise of right wing politics

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/SenFettermanPA/status/1784982764770439605

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinian-refugees-us-gaza-white-house/

quote:

cbsnews.com
White House considers welcoming some Palestinians from war-torn Gaza as refugees
Camilo Montoya-Galvez
6–7 minutes

Updated on: April 30, 2024 / 8:31 PM EDT / CBS News

White House considers Gazan refugee effort
White House considers bringing some Palestinians to U.S. as refugees 00:24

The Biden administration is considering bringing certain Palestinians to the U.S. as refugees, a move that would offer a permanent safe haven to some of those fleeing war-torn Gaza, according to internal federal government documents obtained by CBS News.

In recent weeks, the documents show, senior officials across several federal U.S. agencies have discussed the practicality of different options to resettle Palestinians from Gaza who have immediate family members who are American citizens or permanent residents.

One of those proposals involves using the decades-old United States Refugee Admissions Program to welcome Palestinians with U.S. ties who have managed to escape Gaza and enter neighboring Egypt, according to the inter-agency planning documents.

Top U.S. officials have also discussed getting additional Palestinians out of Gaza and processing them as refugees if they have American relatives, the documents show. The plans would require coordination with Egypt, which has so far refused to welcome large numbers of people from Gaza.

Those who pass a series of eligibility, medical and security screenings would qualify to fly to the U.S. with refugee status, which offers beneficiaries permanent residency, resettlement benefits like housing assistance and a path to American citizenship.

While the eligible population is expected to be relatively small, the plans being discussed by U.S. officials could offer a lifeline to some Palestinians fleeing the Israel-Hamas war, which local public health authorities say has claimed the lives of more than 34,000 people and displaced hundreds of thousands of civilians in Gaza.

The Israeli government launched a military offensive and aerial bombardment of Gaza after Hamas staged an unprecedented attack across Israel on Oct. 7, killing roughly 1,200 people, most of them civilians. Hamas militants also abducted more than 200 people, many of whom continue to be in captivity.

CBS News has reached out to the White House, Department of Homeland Security and State Department for comment.

The proposals to resettle certain Palestinians as refugees would mark a shift in longstanding U.S. government policy and practice. Since its inception in 1980, the U.S. refugee program has not resettled Palestinians in large numbers.

Over the past decade, the U.S. has resettled more than 400,000 refugees fleeing violence and war across the globe. Fewer than 600 were Palestinian. In fiscal year 2023, the U.S. welcomed 56 Palestinian refugees, or 0.09% of the more than 60,000 refugees resettled during those 12 months, State Department statistics show.

While many Democrats would likely support the move, admitting Palestinians as refugees could spur even more political challenges for the Biden administration related to the Israel-Hamas war. The conflict has already exposed rifts within the Democratic Party, triggered massive protests on college campuses and divided communities across America.

To qualify to enter the U.S. as a refugee, applicants have to prove they are fleeing persecution based on certain factors, such as their nationality, religion or political views. While some Palestinians could say they are fleeing repression by Hamas, others could identify the military and government of Israel, a top U.S. ally and recipient of American aid, as a persecutor.

The resettlement of Palestinian refugees, even if small in scale, could also garner criticism from Republicans, who have sought to make concerns about immigration and illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border defining issues in November's elections.

Soon after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas and the start of Israel's offensive in Gaza, leading Republicans, including presidential candidates, said the U.S. should not welcome Palestinian refugees, claiming that they are antisemitic and potential national security risks.

In recent years, the Biden administration has dramatically increased refugee resettlement, which was slashed to record lows by former President Donald Trump. U.S. officials have set a goal of admitting up to 125,000 refugees in fiscal year 2024, which ends at the end of September.

Camilo Montoya-Galvez

biden is trying to become the tsar nicholas of the american empire

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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/0liviajulianna/status/1785449451215028326
https://twitter.com/0liviajulianna/status/1785462587779358841

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