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credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
In 7th grade, my friend Jared got in a fight with Kevin. It was the same kind of deal as when I fought Kevin in 3rd grade -- we all gathered around in a big circle. But Jared was trying real hard to be cool so he had these enormous JNCO jeans that immediately fell down, and it was basically over but Kevin laid into it for a while, the entire time poor Jared trying to pull up his stupid gigantic pants.

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Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

I saw a fight where there was this scrappy kid who egged a fight on with another kid. The scrappy kid was doing fairly well for like 10 seconds until the other kid popped him in the stomach whereby the scrappy kid projectile vomited a bunch of of pieces of Kraft Dinner he had just eaten into the face of the other kid. That ended the fight.

Monstaland
Sep 23, 2003

First year of what you people overseas probably call secondary school there was some big dumb kid in our class who was much taller than anybody else because he was also two years older than everyone else. Reason for that was he already had to repeat two years during his impressive school career. Everyone was about 12 - 13 years old and this dumb gently caress named Edwin loved to kick smaller nerds around like he was some WWF character. I got some too during the year. I mean no biggie, that's how it goes right. He had a friend named Richard. Richard was 14 years old and had to repeat class just once and he loved to hang around with Edwin the bully. He loved to see Edwin smack the poo poo out of smaller kids until Edwin felt like Richard need to smack some smaller kids too. Richard needs to show his prowess as well so he convinced Richard to start a fight with some random kid at the schoolyard. That random kid happened to be me. After halfassingly pushing me around for a minute while a big crowd of schoolkids was encircling us to watch this spectacle he started to throw punches at me because Edwin kept shouting at him to not be a little bitch. I felt Richard wasn't really a fighter because his punches lacked confidence. In the meanwhile I got angrier and angrier mostly because of that dumbfuck Edwin yelling to motivate Richard to hit me harder. So I got really angry (i am autistic, when i get angry i get really angry) charged Richard and put him in a headlock with my right arm and stomped the poo poo out of his head with my left (i am a leftie) until a teacher came in between. We both got escorted towards the vice-principal through a crowd of schoolkids, some congratulating me - even GIRLS, while laughing at red faced Richard who was fighting against his tears really hard. Probably my most glorious moment till today

Thing that still annoys me is that the vice-principal didn't listen to my story (told her very precisely the situation) and just punished us both the same as her conclusion was when two fight two are to blame. Edwin got away with it to continue kicking kids around for the rest of the year.

Never heard of Edwin since as he had to leave school at the end of the year because of bad school results once again. I always promised myself to hurt him when we meet at a later stage in life but we've never ever met since.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

Monstaland posted:

Never heard of Edwin since as he had to leave school at the end of the year because of bad school results once again. I always promised myself to hurt him when we meet at a later stage in life but we've never ever met since.

You must find Edwin and finish the story.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Animal-Mother posted:

Kevin Hester, Dan Brindley. I love how people will remember and use the full, real, legal names of everybody involved in elementary and middle school stories. Kevin's probably an insurance claims adjuster or some poo poo. Dan probably distributes industrial strength washers and dryers.



They sound like Stephen King characters

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
I haven't tested it but I suspect my girlish scream and flailing arms technique would be undefeatable

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Animal-Mother posted:

Dan probably distributes industrial strength washers and dryers

We ended up being friends, I think he runs a haulage company.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017
i think it would be fun to get beaten up by old timey street toughs.

just guys with slacks and suspenders and mid Atlantic accents just beating the ever loving poo poo out of me.

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
ขอให้โชคดี

Rad-daddio posted:

Krav Maga seems cool to me bc they always talked about on Archer.

I'm not a fan of Krav Maga. Way back in the mid to late 90s when KM was becoming more well known in the martial arts world, the owner of the gym I was training at sent me and another guy to an Official Krav Maga Instructor Training Seminar. He wanted us to be certified so we could offer it at our gym. I think it was a week long course, but we bailed after the 3rd or 4th day. The first day was going through the conditioning routine, which honestly wasn't all that bad. After that, we noticed that there was a lot of emphasis on marketing and licensing during breaks between the combatives portions of the course. It's been a long time but I think there was a rule that "official" KM schools had to be 50 miles apart. Much like the early days of BJJ, there was a lot of infighting over trademarking and copywriting the Krav Maga name. That turned us off and when we told the gym owner about it, he said "yeah, gently caress that." He wasn't interested in getting into the politics of a martial art.

There was that bit of nonsense, but we also thought the instruction was pretty poo poo. Like Kenpo, there was too much emphasis on specific techniques and not enough on the underlying principles - too much "do this" and not enough "this is why". I mean, anyone can make up a specific technique for any attack. Techniques don't matter, the physics underlying them do. Also, if something is useful it will be found in most martial arts and KM is nothing special.

Maybe it has changed by now, in fact I'm sure it has since it's more widespread, but every KM dude that came into my gym got schooled by my students so I've never been impressed. The KM knife defense stuff I've seen was atrocious and dangerous.


Rad-daddio posted:

i think it would be fun to get beaten up by old timey street toughs.

just guys with slacks and suspenders and mid Atlantic accents just beating the ever loving poo poo out of me.

Fun fact:
The early days of popular boxing (c. 1890s) were basically just two bros squaring off and trading punches without much evasive footwork. They held their hands in a predominantly palm up fashion, with forearms vertical, not at all like the more common 45 degree angle style that came later. I'm not saying that's how they fought exclusively, but a fighting stance can tell you a lot about the style. Footwork was basically non-existent. Some fighting historians say that changed when Western fighters were exposed to Filipino boxing in Hawaii and the Philippines. Since the Filipino arts were largely based on the stick and the knife, holding a stick or blade with your palms facing you angled the weapon straight out to the side. If you pick up a stick and do that yourself, then simply turn your fists palm down, you'll quickly see how much better it is both offensively and defensively. The footwork for stick and knife fighting is essential, so once Western boxers started getting rocked by the Filipino empty hand fighters, they adapted the Filipino style.

How true that all is, I don't know but I've heard that from a lot of old school Kali and panantukan (a form of Filipino boxing) dudes.

Internetjack posted:

Ethics question: If you were in a fight another person started for no good reason, where no one was watching and you knocked them down/out, would you grab their wallet and take any cash they had on them? Leaving the rest of the wallet behind of course.

I've never done that but I did break the fingers of a dude after I knocked his rear end out. He was literally a Nazi though so gently caress that guy. I've seen other people spit and piss on someone they've put out.

isaboo fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 18, 2024

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
the best thing krav maga did for me when I did it during the summers or between sports when I was younger is that a lot of it was training to spar while also having my ear drums blown out by a loud siren or being put in other stressful situations while training/sparring and I don't know if that was unique to my particular gym at the time. the techniques are all garbage.

IzzyFnStradlin
Jun 19, 2004
ok no but if a sleepy boi on tha glizzy, he gon get cut wit the choppa. That's life.

IzzyFnStradlin fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 19, 2024

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017
Thanks for the KM info.

My main interest in self defense is a mortal fear of knife attacks. Honestly whatever style or discipline is the best for thwarting and then evading an attacker would be perfect for me.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
If youre afraid of knife attacks I recommend cardio

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Rad-daddio posted:

Thanks for the KM info.

My main interest in self defense is a mortal fear of knife attacks. Honestly whatever style or discipline is the best for thwarting and then evading an attacker would be perfect for me.

There's a time-tested solution for defeating bladed weapons:

Vile_Nihlist666
Jan 15, 2009

I'm a special kind of asshole!

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

If youre afraid of knife attacks I recommend cardio

First rule of knife fighting: you ARE getting stabbed.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

McSpanky posted:

There's a time-tested solution for defeating bladed weapons:



sure, but I have a 30-30 rifle

Stunt-Puffin
May 19, 2023

You wanna fight?

Stick your head up my rear end and fight for air!

Stunt-Puffin
May 19, 2023

My grandma used to say that to me that when I was little.

I miss you Grandma
:sigh:

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Stunt-Puffin posted:

You wanna fight?

Stick your head up my rear end and fight for air!

are you ok?

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
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Rad-daddio posted:

Thanks for the KM info.

My main interest in self defense is a mortal fear of knife attacks. Honestly whatever style or discipline is the best for thwarting and then evading an attacker would be perfect for me.

Serious question - why do you have a mortal fear of a knife attack? Do you live a hosed up lifestyle or in an area where that poo poo happens?

IMO try Silat first, Kali second. Silat (at least the styles I've done; there are several hundred) is generally focused on being closer to a blade than kali.
Kali is unique in that you will start weapons training right away. On day one you'll have a baton and probably a blade handed to you. Empty hand training comes later.

As with any fighting system - Krav Maga, BJJ, Karate, whatever - if you don't train with weapons you're not training in a realistic manner for the street. And you need to do it consistently - the skills are perishable.

If you're serious, PM me and tell me where you're located and I might be able to recommend someone in your area especially if you're in the US.

Vile_Nihlist666 posted:

First rule of knife fighting: you ARE getting stabbed.

I've ran away from a blade, I've been cut and I've done the cutting. It really comes down to the encounter and how it starts. Again, there's no real "knife fighting" in the modern era but there are ways to mitigate the danger of someone pulling out a knife.

The first time I ever got cut was while training with live blades. It wasn't a very bad cut but it wasn't fun. IMO, if whatever knife discipline you're learning doesn't break out the live blades once in a while it's not worth it. We obviously don't go at full speed and power, but even at 30-40% intensity it's eye opening. You'll gain a healthy respect for what you should and shouldn't attempt.

Stunt-Puffin
May 19, 2023


No, help me get this guys head outta my arse!

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Stunt-Puffin posted:

No, help me get this guys head outta my arse!

Nope.

Stunt-Puffin
May 19, 2023

Quit being a baby, he stopped moving like 10 minutes ago. Just grab him by the ankles and pull.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Yes.

Not well.

But, yes.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
it's been a long time since my knuckles hurt

tetSUOOO
Mar 1, 2024
another pair of cheap frames have flown to optical valhalla. one might question the wisdom of picking a fight with 4 delinquents with a busted shoulder, but then you never get to accrue that initial xp for your first lvl up

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

I've defeated several foes in forum combat

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Smugworth posted:

I've defeated several foes in forum combat
It seems it is you who have been defeated. IMO.

tetSUOOO
Mar 1, 2024

Smugworth posted:

I've defeated several foes in forum combat

I bet they were really into it and secretly enjoyed your lame burns

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

tetSUOOO posted:

I bet they were really into it and secretly enjoyed your lame burns

Why don't you go walk into a lake, bozo

tetSUOOO
Mar 1, 2024

Smugworth posted:

Why don't you go walk into a lake, bozo

cause is frozen, dumbass

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

tetSUOOO posted:

cause is frozen, dumbass

At this time of year? You're still iced in?

tetSUOOO
Mar 1, 2024

redshirt posted:

At this time of year? You're still iced in?

it's a normal backwinter

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

tetSUOOO posted:

it's a normal backwinter

Dang, you must be real north. We iced out 3-5 weeks ago.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
Shatter the ice with your open palm technique

tetSUOOO
Mar 1, 2024
i prefer closed fist round hammer

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

So, one of my flaws is I like to fight, I WANT to fight. It's like an itch inside me. And I've realized I feel this way towards all of existence, all of reality. I want TO FIGHT. Reality.

Existence. Knowing that I cannot win, BUT. The nobility of the hopeless fight is reward enough.....

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


I fight for my life everytime I go to the bathroom.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

isaboo posted:

Serious question - why do you have a mortal fear of a knife attack? Do you live a hosed up lifestyle or in an area where that poo poo happens?

IMO try Silat first, Kali second. Silat (at least the styles I've done; there are several hundred) is generally focused on being closer to a blade than kali.
Kali is unique in that you will start weapons training right away. On day one you'll have a baton and probably a blade handed to you. Empty hand training comes later.

As with any fighting system - Krav Maga, BJJ, Karate, whatever - if you don't train with weapons you're not training in a realistic manner for the street. And you need to do it consistently - the skills are perishable.

If you're serious, PM me and tell me where you're located and I might be able to recommend someone in your area especially if you're in the US.

I've ran away from a blade, I've been cut and I've done the cutting. It really comes down to the encounter and how it starts. Again, there's no real "knife fighting" in the modern era but there are ways to mitigate the danger of someone pulling out a knife.

The first time I ever got cut was while training with live blades. It wasn't a very bad cut but it wasn't fun. IMO, if whatever knife discipline you're learning doesn't break out the live blades once in a while it's not worth it. We obviously don't go at full speed and power, but even at 30-40% intensity it's eye opening. You'll gain a healthy respect for what you should and shouldn't attempt.

Serious answer; I watched a video of some guy in NYC who confronted a dude who was having some kind of mental health crisis and was damaging cars.

The guy who got stabbed was sitting on a nearby bench with his date, and went over to confront the guy and promptly got stabbed and bled out.

Also, back when my kids were in scouts we got back from a camping trip and our sleeping bags were soaked from getting rained on. Another dad went to a local laundromat to dry his and his son's gear out and suggested I do the same. I just went home and hung my stuff out to dry. Anyhoo, he got confronted by an aggressive panhandler at the laundromat, some kind of fight ensued and he got stabbed and bled out.


...I guess it's a legit phobia for me. So my main SD goal would be to be able to defuse/avoid/evade any situation where a knife gets brought out.

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naem
May 29, 2011

Rad-daddio posted:

Serious answer; I watched a video of some guy in NYC who confronted a dude who was having some kind of mental health crisis and was damaging cars.

The guy who got stabbed was sitting on a nearby bench with his date, and went over to confront the guy and promptly got stabbed and bled out.

Also, back when my kids were in scouts we got back from a camping trip and our sleeping bags were soaked from getting rained on. Another dad went to a local laundromat to dry his and his son's gear out and suggested I do the same. I just went home and hung my stuff out to dry. Anyhoo, he got confronted by an aggressive panhandler at the laundromat, some kind of fight ensued and he got stabbed and bled out.


...I guess it's a legit phobia for me. So my main SD goal would be to be able to defuse/avoid/evade any situation where a knife gets brought out.

https://youtu.be/kvlrnc7hlQI?si=Bdnrd2ncU_sxWPi4

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