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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
The imperium is :Well I forgot to fill out form 6dshxgzy6 in triplicate, so I guess I am doomed to work the space abestos mines for ever and my family is doomed to work them for the next 209 generations.

Chaos is: Whoops one of my chaos higher ups/the gods got bored of me so now my lungs will turn into flesh maggots slowly devouring me while puppetering my body around murdering those I love because they find it funny.

Or in other words the Imperium is a fascist burecratic nightmare who will absolutely murder you and your city over a paperwork error or because it's just easier than actually doing a thorough investigation.

Chaos is just going to horribly murder, abuse and mutiliate you and your city because it's funny

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Groetgaffel posted:

Fully fledged Assassins are rarer than space marines, stuffed to gills with bio-engineering and cybernetics. At most they're mind wiped. The exception is Eversors, since they're, uh, explosively disposable.
In Mark of Faith a detachment of Sororitas fight off a Daemon incursion on their ship and get to carry on un-mind wiped. Well, those that survive.

Speaking of the Holy Ordos and their Chamber Militants:
There's three major branches of the Inquisition, and a plethora of minor.
Malleus deals with Chaos. Their Chamber Militant are us, the Grey Knights.
Xenos, as the name implies, aliens. Chamber Militant: Deathwatch. Also space marines, but not a single chapter. Instead all regular chapters send a promising battle brother to serve with the Deathwatch for a time, then bring back all they learnt to their chapter.
Hereticus, again fairly self-explanatory, they deal with anyone who's a danger to the imperial creed. Naturally this crosses over with Malleus occasionally. Their Chamber Militant are the Adapta Sororitas, the sisters of battle.
Power-armoured, but not genenetically engineered, they are the Imperial Church's standing army, and they are all women because of rules lawyering. (the church is prohibited from having men at arms due to a civil war a couple of thousand years ago)

Now those three branches aren't really strictly separated, and many Inquisitors move between them during their service.
And while they each specialise in a particular direction, if there's a Chaos outbreak somewhere and the closest inquisitor is Ordo Xenos, they'll absolutely respond. A Hereticus Inquisitor discovering a bunch of necrons also won't hesitate in sending in a bunch of Sisters to melt them either.

Technically Inquisitors have the right to requisition any of the Imperiums forces in whatever numbers they see fit, but there's a bunch of politics and other interfactional tensions going on that mean they don't unless absolutely necessary, preferring to rely on official alliances like the Chambers Militant, or some more or less disposable regiments of the Guard when a problem is too big to rely on their own retinue.


Most noteworthy of the minor Ordos are Ordo Chronos, who either make sure no-one mess with time travel, or simply try to keep track of the Imperium's many different calendars, local time dilation and the effect of warp travel on time keeping. They may or may not have erased themselves with some time travel shenanigans.

Inquisition is outside of the chain of command of space marines and cannot actually requistion/order them around outside of petitioning for aid like everyone else. Which is why they can tell them to gently caress off and do so occasionally.

Space marine chapters tend to help out though because if they are making a request it's normally a big deal.

Similarly, the inquistion cannont really order around the mechanicus because they are their own thing with their own command structure.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 16, 2024

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

paragon1 posted:

Does this mean they just executed the entire population of Cadia after Black Crusades 1-12 or something?

Cadias population has been wiped out through the BCs a couple of times, turns out the purple eye thing is a direct result of the proximity to the eye of terror since it kept developing.

Also I dont think there ever really was a standarized approach to what/how much people know about chaos and the how much the Imperium tried to censor it. People point to the armageddon war purgings a lot but there's also a bunch of books/stories where people are somewhat aware of the traitor primarchs but they are portrayed as daemons or such. But you have to keep in mind that regular space marines are portrayed as angels so

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Or Fenris or Catachan where the native biosphere just eats the invading fleet

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Little out of date. Nids won Octarius

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Orks don't really have strategic goals other than "fight more" so I don't really know what an Ork victory would look like.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

White Coke posted:

Is it still implied that the ecosystems of those planets are descended from a previous Tyranid invasion?



Cooked Auto posted:

Vaguely hinted at with Catachan. Fenris I'm not so sure.

Both have certain species that are implied to be the remnants of hive fleets. Fenris has the krakens and the catachan has the catachan devils.

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Vaders Jester posted:

Apologies for bringing up a later post but there's also Brothers of the Snake with a similar idea that I liked.

A Dark Eldar ships crashes onto an Imperial planet and the survivors of the crash start turning the local populace into wall hangings using their eyelids or some equally awful poo poo because Dark Eldar. The Imperial planet has a pact to call for aid but no one has used it in centuries so they're not even sure what's going to happen when they do set off the beacon.

Two months after hitting the send button on their space email, one (1) Space Marine arrives, Brother Priad, who is sworn to protect this particular region of space and proceeds, with help from the poor clerk who sent the distress call, to bully the Dark Eldar off the world.

That story probably has one of the best fight scenes in the setting to show just how lethal space marines are.


Brothers of the Snake posted:

For many years afterwards, for the rest of her life, in fact, Perdet Suiton Antoni often wondered how none of them heard him coming. He was just there, suddenly. How could something that big move so fast and so silently, and appear without notice?

Between the moment when the primuls began to spring and the moment when they would have fallen upon her, the giant appeared and interposed himself between her and the foul, pouncing creatures. It was almost as if he had stopped the flow of time and edited himself into that particular frame of it.

What followed lasted about three seconds.

The giant had his combat shield locked on his left arm and his short, heavy sword in his right fist. As he arrived, he was swinging the shield out, and smashed it flat into the nearest, leaping primul, shattering bones and deflecting the thing away. Wheeling, he hacked his sword clean through the neck and shoulder of the second, casting out a shower of dark red blood, and then ripped backwards low, cutting through the corpse's thighs even as it toppled, so that the whole mass of the primul folded into a collapsed heap. The third, coming in at the giant's left flank, held some kind of pistol weapon, an ugly, spiky device that spat hard, sharp bullets of buzzing metal. The giant turned, raising his left forearm upright from the elbow, and guarded his face with the cornbat shield in time to switch the buzzing projectiles away. They struck the shield with loud, angry cracks. One embedded itself there. Another bounced off and decapitated a nearby sapling. As the third bullet hit, the giant deftly tilted his arm very slightly, and ricocheted it off sideways straight into the face of the fourth primul. The creature's head split like a blood-fruit and the primul was savagely thumped backwards, off the ground, its legs wide. It landed, spread-eagled, on its back.

Before the third primul could fire its pistol again, the giant whipped his right arm over and threw his sword like a lance. It struck the primul through the chest, lifting it off its feet with the force of the throw, and impaled it on an olive tree's trunk, its feet dangling and twitching.

The remaining primul, wicked blades in both hands, was dancing round behind the giant. With his free right hand, the giant grabbed the heavy firearm that had been knocking at his hip on its long strap, and shot the primul twice, in the face and the chest. The double boom of the massive gun was so loud it made Antoni cry out and cover her ears. The force of the shots tore the primul apart, and slammed its mangled body across the grove. It bounced sideways off a tree trunk and fell into the bracken.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 02:43 on May 10, 2024

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