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Small Strange Bird posted:Voyager immediately dropping the Starfleet/Maquis tensions (except for the annual 'Maquis stuff' episode) is a flaw everybody has pointed out so often it now goes without saying, but there are so many possibilities for drama it offered that it's mindblowing they were actively avoided. The sister show running at the same time showed you could have conflict between allied but different groups and still keep everyone ultimately on the same team, but nope, everyone from the Alpha Quadrant is in Starfleet uniform with ranks by the end of the pilot. The mandate was syndication is good, continuity confuses people, so all that tawdry conflict and factional drama nonsense had to be put to bed ASAP so every episode could be viewed in a vacuum of late-night television reruns at 1am.
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Gutcruncher posted:one of those dentists  what.
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Production posted:It's amazing, they could easily have stuck closer to their inspiration and made them a race of different racial caricatures of street gang members Now that's gotten me thinking - how many times have Star Trek come across a group of people of different species? Apart from on a planet. And even that's rare outside of Federation worlds. Dominion ships will have Vorta, and Jem'Hadar but I can't think of anyone else apart from when a ship is explicitly transporting someone who is not part of their society, like a foreign diplomat.
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I've been thinking of any example and drawing a blank. Since Phlox was part of a doctor exchange program, it stands to reason there's a human doctor(s) on a Denoblian ship or hospital, so that might count (off screen).
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Denobulan doctors smirking and rolling their eyes as the human doctor recommends scans instead of rubbing patients with animals
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I don't know how you fellas do it on Denobulia!
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I like the episode where they go rescue the Denobulan geologists or something and they didn't really need "rescuing" as much as "convincing" because they could scale the walls of the caves as easy as humans can walk up a slight incline. Are humans particularly good at anything? Like are we "special" because our spit can break down sugar or we can stay conscious with only a 16% oxygen atmosphere?
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I like the episode where they go rescue the Denobulan geologists or something and they didn't really need "rescuing" as much as "convincing" because they could scale the walls of the caves as easy as humans can walk up a slight incline. Long distance running, and fighting.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I like the episode where they go rescue the Denobulan geologists or something and they didn't really need "rescuing" as much as "convincing" because they could scale the walls of the caves as easy as humans can walk up a slight incline. ~friendship~
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Humans are stupid enough that we don’t know what we can’t do so we go for it goshdarnit
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May 2, 2024 17:56
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1. pettin houndawgs 2. eatin STEAK 3. faaaaiith, if the heeeEAARRTtt..
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Gutcruncher posted:Humans are stupid enough that we don’t know what we can’t do so we go for it goshdarnit FFS we're the Orks
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:FFS we're the Orks Vulcan Meat Shields I prefer to think.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I like the episode where they go rescue the Denobulan geologists or something and they didn't really need "rescuing" as much as "convincing" because they could scale the walls of the caves as easy as humans can walk up a slight incline. we're good at Kirk-fu
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redshirt posted:Vulcan Meat Shields I prefer to think. humans are the Jem Hadar of diplomacy
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redshirt posted:Long distance running, and fighting. In Exordia the aliens consider humans mediocre long distance runners and being exceptionally inbred.
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LRADIKAL posted:In Exordia the aliens consider humans mediocre long distance runners and being exceptionally inbred. Well gently caress them aliens, tell em redshirt said so!
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humans don’t have any agility or durability bonuses but the ferengi were impressed how quickly we achieved warp technology iirc. i guess we learn faster than most.
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Space Jam posted:humans don’t have any agility or durability bonuses but the ferengi were impressed how quickly we achieved warp technology iirc. i guess we learn faster than most. Yeah we clearly have a research bonus, absolutely overpowered and has completely hosed the alpha quadrant meta
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Generally speaking in sci-fi and fantasy that's the human's trait. Ability to learn fast and make waves while doing it.
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Yeah it's generally humans have adaptability and community compared to more rigid ideologies. I always liked the Farscape treatment where Crichton is considered to be garbage at everything but still succeeds sort of.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I like the episode where they go rescue the Denobulan geologists or something and they didn't really need "rescuing" as much as "convincing" because they could scale the walls of the caves as easy as humans can walk up a slight incline. Humans seem to reproduce substantially faster than basically anything that isn’t a Tribble. Most species, even ones with large territories like the Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians, still can’t even fill up their own homeworlds. Humans meanwhile have filled up Earth to capacity multiple times and have had to keep spreading to other planets to make room.  
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Agent Smith was right (humanity peaked in 1999)
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galagazombie posted:Humans meanwhile have filled up Earth to capacity multiple times and have had to keep spreading to other planets to make room. I’ve never heard of Earth being overpopulated at any point in Trek history, what’s this from?
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every year people have to kill thousands of deers in North America to stop them destroying their own food supply and starving to death lol
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:
Does Geordie as the "new Spock" have any basis? Did they advertise him that way? He's literally some chump pilot in the gently caress-me seat for the first season.
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jsoh posted:every year people have to kill thousands of deers in North America to stop them destroying their own food supply and starving to death lol Death is an essential part of equilibrium. And people "have to" fill that role because we hosed up the environment. We have farms and ranches, predators notice farm animals are easier to hunt than wildlife, so we kill the predators. Now there aren't enough predators to control the deer. Besides, the only mammals agent Smith has ever been able to study directly small rodents that eat fungus, insects, and bio-trash. Once the sun was blocked everything in the food web dependant on photosynthesis died. And absent predators rodents can control their own population with a little light cannibalism.
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It's probably just not a very good article. But it does seem to hint that people in the days of yore had a fundamentally different understanding of remakes and reboots.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Death is an essential part of equilibrium. And people "have to" fill that role because we hosed up the environment. We have farms and ranches, predators notice farm animals are easier to hunt than wildlife, so we kill the predators. Now there aren't enough predators to control the deer. Humans are a mammalian predator it would have studied dang closely.
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My Lovely Horse posted:But it does seem to hint that people in the days of yore had a fundamentally different understanding of remakes and reboots. But TNG is neither of those, it's a straight sequel, which was certainly a familiar format by the late 80s. Even the Brady Bunch had done multiple spinoff shows by that point (albeit continuing to bring back the same cast* every time). * Fake Jan notwithstanding.
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Star Trek Voyager starring the half human half Klingon Bella a Torres as the new Spock
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There was an old article talking about how they anticipate Neelix being the breakout character. Hooooooo boy
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Neelix & Jar Jar late 90's energy
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Gutcruncher posted:There was an old article talking about how they anticipate Neelix being the breakout character. Neelix, designed to appeal to the younger Star Trek viewers in the hopes of launching a prequel YA book series focusing on Neelix's high school years.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Neelix, designed to appeal to the younger Star Trek viewers in the hopes of launching a prequel YA book series focusing on Neelix's high school years. A running gag is him desperately trying to flunk so bad he gets sent back to middle school
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