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redshirt posted:Year of Hell, but it's just another Monday with Neelix
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Some Voyager episodes are hands down excellent, really interesting sci fi concepts executed well with characters (at times) you can care about. Agree with the Kazon discussion above. They mostly sucked. Then there were the garbage collectors. But the Vidiians holy crap, a species that will steal your organs right out of your body in a snap if you let them get close to you? Scary dudes and Voyager managed to create a little empathy for them as well. Maybe the show took too long to pivot to more interesting bad guys. Chakotay being mind controlled to fight for the "good guys" was a great episode. Anything with quasi Native American stuff probably not and they leaned into it for a few episodes in the first few seasons. As a whole Voyager went too long, had more weak or unlikable characters than good ones, and spun out quite a few meh episodes.
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CainFortea posted:I think the biggest hump to liking voyager is Chakotay. Im doing a watch through and I'm already preemptively irritated that he is romantically involved with 7 of 9. I used to live in the country and we had an antenna and the channel that played Voyager back to back was the only channel that had any signal strength in a blizzard. I guess that's my excuse for liking Star trek as a whole.
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Endless Trash posted:I love the thesaurus people episode! They're called the Voth. 
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:They're called the Voth. 
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Voyager immediately dropping the Starfleet/Maquis tensions (except for the annual 'Maquis stuff' episode) is a flaw everybody has pointed out so often it now goes without saying, but there are so many possibilities for drama it offered that it's mindblowing they were actively avoided. The sister show running at the same time showed you could have conflict between allied but different groups and still keep everyone ultimately on the same team, but nope, everyone from the Alpha Quadrant is in Starfleet uniform with ranks by the end of the pilot. C'mon, there must have been someone on Chakotay's ship who was a complete crayon-eater from Buttfuq III with zero qualifications other than "I like shooting Cardassians, me." How are they going to help recalibrate the anti-tetryon matrix? Are they going to spend 75 years in the brig?
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Small Strange Bird posted:Are they going to spend 75 years in the brig? Janeway threatens people with that on the regular.
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TheKingslayer posted:Janeway threatens people with that on the regular. Just before she's had her coffee
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TheKingslayer posted:Janeway threatens people with that on the regular. Yeah but when you’re a serial killer you just get grounded in your luxury apartment
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She shoulda spaced them for being Maquis and hired on a crew of eccentric alien misfits who want to explore the galaxy instead. Yeah I know that’s how you end up with more Neelixes but it’s a risk that needs to be taken, the Maquis can’t be allowed to live, they’ll kill however many millions of people it takes for them to be able to grow their precious organic tomatoes in a Cardassian’s backyard.
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Hey don't get me wrong. I love how Janeway swings from, "No we have to respect the laws of these people. We're still Starfleet." to "I'm going to kill everything and everyone I can reach with my ship until I get Harry Kim back. Even my most worthless toys are worth killing for."
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Let's not forget Chakotay's crew of treasonous Maquis includes Seska and Lon Suder
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redshirt posted:Let's not forget Chakotay's crew of treasonous Maquis includes Seska and Lon Suder Thankfully the latter solved the former.
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Small Strange Bird posted:Voyager immediately dropping the Starfleet/Maquis tensions (except for the annual 'Maquis stuff' episode) is a flaw everybody has pointed out so often it now goes without saying, but there are so many possibilities for drama it offered that it's mindblowing they were actively avoided. The sister show running at the same time showed you could have conflict between allied but different groups and still keep everyone ultimately on the same team, but nope, everyone from the Alpha Quadrant is in Starfleet uniform with ranks by the end of the pilot. On the other hand, DS9 also shows that the maquis are probably one of the least interesting parts of all of star trek, so it's probably better that they did just drop it.
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I feel like if Tuvok was in charge they would’ve gotten home within 3 years, assuming he didn’t just prevent them from getting stranded in the first place
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CainFortea posted:On the other hand, DS9 also shows that the maquis are probably one of the least interesting parts of all of star trek, so it's probably better that they did just drop it. I thought there was some real tension/drama with the DS9 Maquis arc. Good points on both sides, etc...
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redshirt posted:I thought there was some real tension/drama with the DS9 Maquis arc. Good points on both sides, etc... There are no good points that the maquis have.
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CainFortea posted:There are no good points that the maquis have. 1. The Cardassians suck 2 The Federation sucks in a different way 3 Only Free Maquis can drive here
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The Maquis are bunch of spoiled little turds that ran away from home to teach their parents a lesson.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Yeah I know that’s how you end up with more Neelixes but The Klingons would have found the Neelix homeworld and destroyed it.
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Animal-Mother posted:The Klingons would have found the Neelix homeworld and destroyed it. Klingons and Romulans and Cardassians all in that Schwarzenegger meme
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Animal-Mother posted:The Klingons would have found the Neelix homeworld and destroyed it. Somebody basically already did that
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Somebody basically already did that Jetrel's people did a better job on the Talaxians than the klingons ever did with the tribbles.
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TheKingslayer posted:The Maquis are bunch of spoiled little turds that ran away from home to teach their parents a lesson. Yeah they seemed all bark no bite. We hear about them getting stuff done but not much rear end is kicked on screen, especially in Voy. Kira though, that woman can throw down.
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From Randomwaffle:
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Animal-Mother posted:The Klingons would have found the Neelix homeworld and destroyed it. based on Neelix and his klingon girlfriend they would have made planet Neelix into the Klingon Risa
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Animal-Mother posted:From Randomwaffle: This is from the episode where the Doctor can't turn off his fantasy subroutine. There's a great gag where he's drawing Seven naked and the real Seven and Harry walk into the scene, real Seven is neutral and Harry's eyes just get progressively wider until the scene cuts.
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wait, why does a holographic doctor program have an "eroticism" setting
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ChickenHeart posted:wait, why does a holographic doctor program have an "eroticism" setting He downloaded a nexus mod that bundled in some horny poo poo along with other improvements. Happens all the time.
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ChickenHeart posted:wait, why does a holographic doctor program have an "eroticism" setting So he can treat space hysteria
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Why do you?!
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ChickenHeart posted:wait, why does a holographic doctor program have an "eroticism" setting That's So Zimmerman
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Computer, activate the Riker protocol
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The EMH was originally supposed to be one of those dentists that injects his semen into people’s gums while they’re under. Zimmerman won the lowest bid with Starfleet and he didn’t manage to delete ALL the dentist subroutines.
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ChickenHeart posted:wait, why does a holographic doctor program have an "eroticism" setting
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My Lovely Horse posted:Barclay malware Barclware
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Oh that’s another thing I noticed in the episode previews. The preview for the first Barclay episode has no Barclay. It completely hides both his existence and of there being anything holodeck related in the episode at all. Complete Barclay erasure.
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Endless Trash posted:He downloaded a nexus mod that bundled in some horny poo poo along with other improvements. Happens all the time. My Lovely Horse posted:Barclay malware Barclay, your download of Delicioso's Better Body Physics has completed
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redshirt posted:Everyone hated Voyager when it came out, but then Enterprise, and the JJ movies, and Picard and Disco, and folks are like "Well, Voyager wasn't so bad, right?" Wrong Fake edit: to put the lie to this reasoning, unironically ask for a critical reassessment of Nemesis (the movie, not the episode). McSpanky fucked around with this message at 08:54 on May 2, 2024 |
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I thought Voyager was super disappointing and fairly dumb when I was a kid. Liked it better as an adult knowingly wanting some beige entertainment. Nemesis still sucks as hard as it ever did. The JJ era did not redeem it in my book, still dead last
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