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Hopes Fall
Sep 10, 2006
HOLY BOOBS, BATMAN!
I was wondering if anyone knew roughly how much a teeth cleaning for my dachshund would be? I called the vet I normally go to today, and they gave me some line about needing a $45 visit to check her out and asses her teeth, before scheduling the actual cleaning, at which time they could give me an estimate. The Internet is saying anything from $100-$500.

I started brushing her teeth recently, just a little bit every few days which has helped a bit, but man does she have some build up. My vet mentioned at our last visit that I should consider a cleaning, and since it's tax-refund season and all, I figured this would be a good time as any.

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Ishkibibble_Fish
Feb 14, 2008

BananaHam:
1 part treefruit
1 part mud ungulate

Hopes Fall posted:

I was wondering if anyone knew roughly how much a teeth cleaning for my dachshund would be? I called the vet I normally go to today, and they gave me some line about needing a $45 visit to check her out and asses her teeth, before scheduling the actual cleaning, at which time they could give me an estimate. The Internet is saying anything from $100-$500.

I started brushing her teeth recently, just a little bit every few days which has helped a bit, but man does she have some build up. My vet mentioned at our last visit that I should consider a cleaning, and since it's tax-refund season and all, I figured this would be a good time as any.

I have my dog's first dental scheduled next Wednesday, and I will tell you about the quote I got beforehand. I go to a cheap (but great!) vet, so maybe take these rates with a grain of salt, and of course it will depend on where you are located too. I'm in the Chicago area.

Typical Stuff:

Injection Anesthetic- 41-60lbs: $45
ISO Each 1/2 Hour- 41-60lbs: $48 Each
Cleaning & Polishing- 41-60lbs: $60
Antibiotic: $24


Optional Stuff (IMO, not optional, but YMMV):

Pre Anesthesia Blood Screen- 2yrs & up: $95 (I'm a big baby about putting dogs under, so I'd never do it without a blood screen first, esp. for an older dog.)
Anesthesia Monitoring- $40


Extra (if-needed) stuff:

Extractions: he'll probably have two (he's an older rescue and has had no previous dental maintenance), which are $12-$40 each.
Pain Medication (Injection) $20-40 Each
Pain Medication (Take Home) $15-30
Antibiotics (Take Home) $24-30


There was also a $10 exam which they are waiving for me because I just did his yearly exam & vaccinations.

So the estimate was $177-312, but that was back before we found the second cracked tooth. In the end, I think it will depend on your dog's size, age, your geographical area, and ultimate condition of the teeth. For example, some tooth extractions, if needed, could be more complicated than others. Hope this helped.

Dr. Chaco
Mar 30, 2005

Hopes Fall posted:

I was wondering if anyone knew roughly how much a teeth cleaning for my dachshund would be? I called the vet I normally go to today, and they gave me some line about needing a $45 visit to check her out and asses her teeth, before scheduling the actual cleaning, at which time they could give me an estimate. The Internet is saying anything from $100-$500.

I started brushing her teeth recently, just a little bit every few days which has helped a bit, but man does she have some build up. My vet mentioned at our last visit that I should consider a cleaning, and since it's tax-refund season and all, I figured this would be a good time as any.



The "line" they gave you about needing an exam first is because the estimate for cleaning will be much different than the estimate for cleaning and extractions. Also, dental procedures can take 30 minutes, 4 hours, or anywhere in between, depending on what needs to be done. In addition to increasing the cost and the estimate, they need to know before scheduling it approximately how much time to allow for.

It is not uncommon for me to give dental estimates in the 800-1000 range, but I also live in an area where almost no one does preventative maintenance/regular cleanings, only salvage procedures once there are rotten teeth. A straight-forward cleaning on a young dog might be $200-250, including anesthesia.

Hopes Fall
Sep 10, 2006
HOLY BOOBS, BATMAN!

Ishkibibble_Fish posted:

I have my dog's first dental scheduled next Wednesday, and I will tell you about the quote I got beforehand. I go to a cheap (but great!) vet, so maybe take these rates with a grain of salt, and of course it will depend on where you are located too. I'm in the Chicago area.
...
Hope this helped.

Yep, it did, thanks! She's a 9 year old Tweenie, so I'd definitely consider 'opting-in' on the pre-testing. I'm fairly confident in that area, because she has had quite a bit of surgery in the past; she had (has?) that degenerative disk disease Doxies are oh-so prone to, and ended up getting neurosurgery to walk again. We're in Central Jersey, so I imagine the rates would be fairly comparable.

Dr. Chaco posted:

The "line" they gave you about needing an exam first is because the estimate for cleaning will be much different than the estimate for cleaning and extractions. Also, dental procedures can take 30 minutes, 4 hours, or anywhere in between, depending on what needs to be done. In addition to increasing the cost and the estimate, they need to know before scheduling it approximately how much time to allow for.

It is not uncommon for me to give dental estimates in the 800-1000 range, but I also live in an area where almost no one does preventative maintenance/regular cleanings, only salvage procedures once there are rotten teeth. A straight-forward cleaning on a young dog might be $200-250, including anesthesia.

And it would've killed them to either tell me that, or spend 5 seconds to look over her file, since we already go there, and the doc saw in November for her vaccines? I understand the need for an assessment; this obviously isn't as straight-forward as, say, a human's yearly teeth cleaning, but even just having them say 'It can range from x to y' would've been nice. Thank you, for the explanation though.


And kinda unrelated, but I feel as though my little Stinkerbell actually has more build-up in the years since we switched to Blue. Is it softer or something?

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.
Here's how Max's dental adventure went:

1) Adopt dog, take to vet for a checkup, notice his teeth are gnarly. Vet suggests bringing him back to see the canine dental specialist on staff.
2) Call dental specialist, discuss options over phone. Cost could be anywhere between $50 and $3000 without looking at his teeth more thoroughly.
3) Bring dog in for his assessment, decide to pull his broken teeth and clean the rest ($75)
4) Drop dog off at 7 AM one morning, pick dog up at 6 PM minus three teeth. (~$500)

The price will vary depending on how gross your dog's teeth are and how long they have to sedate her for.

Locobono
Nov 6, 2003

Pump Action
I buy Blue Buffalo food for the dogs and cat. The cat prefers the dog food and will steal it if it can. Can I just feed the cat the dog food?

Topoisomerase
Apr 12, 2007

CULTURE OF VICIOUSNESS

Locobono posted:

I buy Blue Buffalo food for the dogs and cat. The cat prefers the dog food and will steal it if it can. Can I just feed the cat the dog food?

No, absolutely not: http://www.petwave.com/Cats/Basics/Nutrition/Taurine-Deficiency.aspx

Locobono
Nov 6, 2003

Pump Action

Thanks!

Topoisomerase
Apr 12, 2007

CULTURE OF VICIOUSNESS
I have a cat who is obsessed with the dog food too. I manage it by meal feeding the dog and tossing the cat a couple kibbles of dog food while the dog is eating for tricks/fun/to distract him.

Locobono
Nov 6, 2003

Pump Action
How about dog food and red bull? There's taurine in that. Says so on the can.

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

Post video if you do. My money is on ten seconds of frenzy followed by a small explosion.

(seriously don't do this)

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?

Locobono posted:

How about dog food and red bull? There's taurine in that. Says so on the can.

And then your cat will have wings! :angel:

Because he will be a dead angel cat you see

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation
Frankie ate one of my adderall once. That was a really intense 6 hours.

Dr. Chaco
Mar 30, 2005
I do occasionally see dogs who are super hyper, twitchy, tremoring, and pacing around the room foaming at the mouth. Owner never knows what they could have gotten into; in this area, I wonder about meth, but adderall might be a possibility that people would actually admit to.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

Dr. Chaco posted:

I do occasionally see dogs who are super hyper, twitchy, tremoring, and pacing around the room foaming at the mouth. Owner never knows what they could have gotten into; in this area, I wonder about meth, but adderall might be a possibility that people would actually admit to.

That's pretty much what happened to Frankie. I called the vet, and was basically told to just watch him and bring him in if he got worse so I stuck him in a crate and put a blanket over it and did everything I could to keep him as chill as possible until it wore off. It was a 10mg instant release pill so luckily it wasn't some ridiculous dosage, but yeah he just kind of stood there and drooled and panted and shook while I obsessed over whether or not to take him to the vet for half a day. After he came down, he slept for like 16 hours and panted a bunch in his sleep and then was fine.

Dr. Chaco
Mar 30, 2005
Interesting. I really don't know if adderall or meth would be more accessible around here. Yeah, the few I've seen were all fine the next day. The last one I saw calmed down a little bit with a bunch of valium, but not much. Keeping the light off and noise and movement to a minimum seemed to help the most.

Maybe I should give them pot. Those dogs are also kind of twitchy, but only if you wake them up from their dazed stupor. I don't do much in the way of treatment for that, either, unless they are super affected, but it would be kind of hilarious if the treatment for one was a low dose of the other.

Olive Bar
Mar 30, 2005

Take me to the moon
What is the difference between a ground squirrel and a chipmunk, they look the same to me is it just a regional thing?

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

Olive Bar posted:

What is the difference between a ground squirrel and a chipmunk, they look the same to me is it just a regional thing?

Chipmunks are a type of ground squirrel. So are prairie dogs and marmots, apparently!

Ceridwen
Dec 11, 2004
Of course... If the Jell-O gets moldy, the whole thing should be set aflame.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Chipmunks are a type of ground squirrel. So are prairie dogs and marmots, apparently!

Chipmunks are in their own genus though (Tamias). And are smaller-bodied than most of the other ground squirrels. It's not really regional, it's just different groups within the larger heading of ground squirrels (Xerinae). Within Xerinae there are multiple genera that are common referred to as ground squirrels (Urocitellus, Ictidomys, Spermophilus, Ammospermophilus, etc.) and several genera commonly referred to by other names (Tamias - chipmunks, Marmota - marmots, Cynomys - prairie dogs). Chipmunks can be distinguished by their stripes, but that only goes so far since there are chipmunks without striping and ground squirrels with striping. The chipmunks have striping around their eyes (even when they lack it on their backs) while the ground squirrels don't (even when they have it on their backs). Probably more than you wanted to know, but I just taught Mammology last semester so I have an overabundance of this sort of information.

Olive Bar
Mar 30, 2005

Take me to the moon
Not too much information at all! Thank you for the fantastic answer.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


The cat I adopted has a heart murmur. It apparently is a "rank 3" murmur, which is medium loudness or something. I won't know what exactly is going on without getting a cardiograph ($460 :gonk:) or what the cause of it is, so does anyone know how a heart murmur would impact his quality of life? Is he going to get sick easier, or have a heart attack someday or something?

Enelrahc
Jun 17, 2007

Pollyanna posted:

The cat I adopted has a heart murmur. It apparently is a "rank 3" murmur, which is medium loudness or something. I won't know what exactly is going on without getting a cardiograph ($460 :gonk:) or what the cause of it is, so does anyone know how a heart murmur would impact his quality of life? Is he going to get sick easier, or have a heart attack someday or something?

No one is going to be able to tell you what is causing the murmur without doing some diagnostics. Lots of things can cause a murmur and they can have very different outcomes.

Amber Alert
Aug 28, 2009

fuk cyka


I'm kitty-sitting for a friend for a couple months and she was just spayed. It's been seven days since the procedure and a lump has developed. She's been wearing her cone when we can't keep her under watch, but she may have had some time to pick at it under our noses.

These were taken just a few minutes ago (2/25)




This picture was taken on Thursday (2/21)



She's got an appointment today at 1 with the vet tech to check it out but is there any serious cause for alarm here?

Pugzilla
Feb 25, 2011
I have been thinking about getting a bearded dragon. After doing a bit of research on the web I have found quite a few conflicting bits of info, especially about habitats and what age the "beardie" should be when purchased.

What size habitat is best and what age is best to start with?

Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

CATS RULE DOGS DROOL

FERRETS ARE ALSO PRETTY MEH, HONESTLY


Why not look in/ask in the Reptile megathread?

Dr. Chaco
Mar 30, 2005

Amber Alert posted:

I'm kitty-sitting for a friend for a couple months and she was just spayed. It's been seven days since the procedure and a lump has developed. She's been wearing her cone when we can't keep her under watch, but she may have had some time to pick at it under our noses.

These were taken just a few minutes ago (2/25)




This picture was taken on Thursday (2/21)



She's got an appointment today at 1 with the vet tech to check it out but is there any serious cause for alarm here?

That could be as simple as a seroma (a fluidy swelling at the incision site), or as serious as a hernia (stitches in the body wall came undone). If it's the second, kitty will need surgery to fix it. The vet should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

extra bird parts
Apr 30, 2012

creepy blue bird with an upset expression crashing into a fire truck and causing an explosion in the style of vaporwave aesthetics
My indoor only cat slipped out the door this morning and has been missing since. It's been lightly snowing all day (over a foot on the ground, a few inches of it fresh) and its below freezing outside so I am concerned. Problematically, I'm in a fairly rural place that has a number of predators including foxes, bobcats, cougars, bears and coyotes. So I'm afraid of putting out food or shelter or things with her scent on them for fear of attracting more than just my cat. Is there anything I can do to maximize her chances of surviving the weather or encourage her to come back without inviting unwanted company?

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

Recently my beagle has started collecting clothing. She'll run around the apartment, grab a sock/underwear/pair of pants (which is painfully cute because she can barely move them), drag them to her bed, drop it and look happy/guilty. She never chews on the clothing, and isn't protective of it at all. Does anyone have any idea of why she does this? It's really hilarious to see her streak into the living room with a sock in her mouth.

Robo Boogie Bot
Sep 4, 2011

Hemiola posted:

My indoor only cat slipped out the door this morning and has been missing since. It's been lightly snowing all day (over a foot on the ground, a few inches of it fresh) and its below freezing outside so I am concerned. Problematically, I'm in a fairly rural place that has a number of predators including foxes, bobcats, cougars, bears and coyotes. So I'm afraid of putting out food or shelter or things with her scent on them for fear of attracting more than just my cat. Is there anything I can do to maximize her chances of surviving the weather or encourage her to come back without inviting unwanted company?

I've heard of people leaving baskets of dirty laundry sitting out on the porch, the reasoning being that the scent might draw them back home. I doubt that other critters would be terribly interested in a stinky flannel shirt.

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour

Pugzilla posted:

I have been thinking about getting a bearded dragon. After doing a bit of research on the web I have found quite a few conflicting bits of info, especially about habitats and what age the "beardie" should be when purchased.

What size habitat is best and what age is best to start with?

The Reptile and Amphibian thread is full of great resources, so look there for any info you want. As a bearded dragon mom, you will not be disappointed with getting a beardie! They are great lizards.

Short answers: Don't get a beardie unless it's at LEAST eight weeks or six inches long. Anything less is bad for the lizard. (Chain pet stores like Petsmart and Petco generally have lizards that are too young.) A 40 gallon tank is the bare minimum for an adult. You also need to have a lot of stuff in the tank for climbing, hiding, basking, and cooling, and you need to monitor the temp and humidity. The most important thing is, these lizards can live for 10+ years, so be ready to make that kind of a commitment. If you don't have your heart set on getting a juvenile, look on Craigslist, there are usually people trying to get rid of their adult lizards.


I have a question about squeaky dog toys.

We adopted an eight year old Alaskan Malamute from our local shelter this past November. He is the BEST dog. A few months ago he got some squeaky toys, but he's having a strange reaction to them. When we squeak them, he whimpers and whines, and when we throw the toy, he will daintily pick it up and carry it into our bedroom. Then he will lay down on the floor with the toy between his front legs, lick it a few times, and then put his head down like he's pouting.

I've never had a dog before and I don't know dog behavior, so this is puzzling me. Why does it seem like he's being mother-protective of his squeaky toys?

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.

Koivunen posted:

I have a question about squeaky dog toys.

We adopted an eight year old Alaskan Malamute from our local shelter this past November. He is the BEST dog. A few months ago he got some squeaky toys, but he's having a strange reaction to them. When we squeak them, he whimpers and whines, and when we throw the toy, he will daintily pick it up and carry it into our bedroom. Then he will lay down on the floor with the toy between his front legs, lick it a few times, and then put his head down like he's pouting.

I've never had a dog before and I don't know dog behavior, so this is puzzling me. Why does it seem like he's being mother-protective of his squeaky toys?

Max is like that, he'll immediately let go of any toy as soon as it squeaks. Our theory is that he thinks he's hurting it and since he's a herding dog he doesn't have much of a "kill the squeaky thing" drive.

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
Can anyone give me a run down of per health insurance?

My dog is getting large fatty tumors as she gets older and I really can't afford the full cost of a surgery every year.

The test to check for cancer was even too pricey at $200.

I asked for a quote and the vet never got back to me. Doesn't really inspire confidence.

Reading around seems like it sucks more than people insurance.

Ugh. Anyone have an idea how much it would cost? The tumor is about tennis ball sized near her urethra.

cheese eats mouse fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Feb 28, 2013

Braki
Aug 9, 2006

Happy birthday!
I'm pretty sure no pet health insurance will cover a pre-existing condition.

cryingscarf
Feb 4, 2007

~*FaBuLoUs*~

The problem with your situation is that, if I recall correctly, all the insurance companies do not cover preexisting conditions(like these tumors). Hopefully someone else who is more educated on these things will give you a better answer.

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?

Thirding the pre-existing conditions not covered by pet insurance thing. Better to just put money away for future bills.

Robo Boogie Bot
Sep 4, 2011
Care Credit might be a good option for you, its basically a low interest credit card specifically for pet costs.

Another thing that I've heard about pet insurance that might affect your decision is that they don't pay for reoccurring illnesses. So even if it paid for a tumor removal, they wouldn't pay for another removal the next year. (Can anyone confirm this?) They also make you pay the vet in full for whatever procedure they perform, then you submit a claim to the insurance company and hope they reimburse you.

I would avoid pet insurance at all costs based on what I've heard about it.

Topoisomerase
Apr 12, 2007

CULTURE OF VICIOUSNESS

Robo Boogie Bot posted:

Care Credit might be a good option for you, its basically a low interest credit card specifically for pet costs.

Another thing that I've heard about pet insurance that might affect your decision is that they don't pay for reoccurring illnesses. So even if it paid for a tumor removal, they wouldn't pay for another removal the next year. (Can anyone confirm this?) They also make you pay the vet in full for whatever procedure they perform, then you submit a claim to the insurance company and hope they reimburse you.

I would avoid pet insurance at all costs based on what I've heard about it.

Pet insurance is evolving and not all companies are like this. I suggest educating yourself before speaking about a thing you're misinformed on.

But none will pay for pre-existing conditions and that means anything within the first few months of coverage as well, because they don't want you not taking your animal to the vet to try to get out of the pre-existing clause.

HOT! New Memes
May 31, 2006




I posted this in the cat mega thread but I'm really worried so ill post it here also.

My two year old cat started compulsively licking himself at the base of his tail about a week ago. I figured it was a bug bite bothering him and put a cone collar on him but he would position himself to be able to lick his belly and back legs till he was raw (no open sores but red and no hair) so off to the vet he went.

They found flea dirt on him. We had an issue with fleas due to another cat getting out last November and give all the cats frontline on the 17th of every month. We thought we had it under control but apparently not. He was given the following-

Fvrcp booster
Rabies feline 3 year booster
Depo medrol 20 mg
Capstar
Convenia

This was at around eleven a.m. He seemed fine when i last saw him around five this afternoon. I work nights and fell asleep around that time.

I woke up at eight and the cat is no where to be found. I looked at all his normal hiding spots and nothing. I looked at a bunch of odd areas he might have crawled in and still nothing. I left for work and now I am worried that he crawled somewhere to die. Is this a rational fear I should have? Is the medicine they gave him a horrible cocktail of cat drugs? Besides the licking he seemed perfectly fine and normal prior to the vet visit.

Sorry for any spelling errors and wording I'm currently posting from my phone.

Enelrahc
Jun 17, 2007

I'd think it more likely that he's either snuck out of the house or is stuck in a cupboard or closet somewhere. Open a can of fancy feast?

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HOT! New Memes
May 31, 2006




The house is all closed up because of winter and their was no one in and out allowing him to escape between when I saw him last and when I left for work. I was thinking a really good hiding spot but I searched for a good hour or more. I tried shaking the treat cup and the other cats came running but still no sign or sound from him. Would any of those drugs make him extremely tired? Could he be mad or traumatized from his visit that he would feel the need to hide?

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