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Cingulate posted:Guybrush can hold his breath for 10 minutes. Supposedly, Scotty can hold it for even longer, considering he spend the scene, which felt about 3 hours long, fully immersed in FutureWater. I tried holding my breath through that scene to see if I could make it, and even perfectly calm sitting on the couch, I couldn't.
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If anyone on the Enterprise can breathe ethanol, it's Montgomery Scott.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's far more plausible for an engine room to look almost-exactly like a brewery than for an alien creature to look almost-exactly like a human being. Blammo! There is an in universe explanation for this.
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Feb 18, 2013 19:09
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AlternateAccount posted:There is an in universe explanation for this. Is it that God exists?
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AlternateAccount posted:There is an in universe explanation for this. Yeah, and both of those episodes were really dumb.
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Feb 18, 2013 20:02
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Clumsy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) It's similar to Prometheus, only not good.
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Feb 18, 2013 20:10
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Oh, you mean exactly like Prometheus? 
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Oh, you mean exactly like Prometheus? This is not an argument worth bringing up in an already volatile thread!
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CPFortest posted:Yeah, and both of those episodes were really dumb. What's the other one?
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Jack Gladney posted:What's the other one? Return to Tomorrow, from the Original Series. Although that episode was a lot better than The Chase.
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AlternateAccount posted:There is an in universe explanation for this. And it's an after-the-fact canon patch-up that's still more far-fetched than an engine room looking like a brewery. The only important question is "What makes for effective scenes and stories?" Spock's character arc in Star Trek '09 is an excellent reason for Vulcans, humans, and other species to look similar and be capable of producing offspring. It's a far better justification than some terrible TNG episode designed to calm the whining of obsessives.
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Kazy posted:I tried holding my breath through that scene to see if I could make it, and even perfectly calm sitting on the couch, I couldn't.
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Feb 19, 2013 01:01
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The scene is poo poo because Scotty is supposed to be in mortal danger and it's played for laughs, with Kirk chasing after him like a buffoon.
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Karpaw posted:The scene is poo poo because Scotty is supposed to be in mortal danger and it's played for laughs, with Kirk chasing after him like a buffoon. I see what you mean but having one of the iconic Trek characters die by drowning in the engine turbine is already a ridiculous concept so there's no serious tension for the audience regardless. The only tone that works is comedic. Only way to make it better is to not do it at all. Which is ok too.
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Feb 19, 2013 01:22
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Karpaw posted:The scene is poo poo because Scotty is supposed to be in mortal danger and it's played for laughs, with Kirk chasing after him like a buffoon. Thats pretty much every scene on the Enterprise - puffy hands, Chekov's accent, etc.
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McDowell posted:Thats pretty much every scene on the Enterprise - puffy hands, Chekov's accent, etc. This is true, I never fully realized that Star Trek is pretty light hearted.
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I said come in! posted:This is true, I never fully realized that Star Trek is pretty light hearted. In the episode where the Enterprise takes on a bunch of Irish farmers and their livestock, Captain Picard bursts out laughing and calls the whole premise (of star trek) absurd.
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Sinding Johansson posted:In the episode where the Enterprise takes on a bunch of Irish farmers and their livestock, Captain Picard bursts out laughing and calls the whole premise (of star trek) absurd. I remember that episode now! That was a real weird episode, where Riker gets a boner for all of the irish women, and the livestock.
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I said come in! posted:I remember that episode now! That was a real weird episode, where Riker gets a boner for all of the irish women, and the livestock. And then vaporizes his clone.
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I said come in! posted:I remember that episode now! That was a real weird episode, where Riker gets a boner for all of the irish women, and the livestock. Well, hey now. 
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Feb 19, 2013 04:33
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Ah yes, the ancient Earth custom of "foot washing."
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Looks like someone ran out of yard for her cardigan~
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I notice Kirk's already got his shirt off there. Classic trek.
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Karpaw posted:The scene is poo poo because Scotty is supposed to be in mortal danger and it's played for laughs, with Kirk chasing after him like a buffoon. 
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It always reminded me of this, more: 
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thexerox123 posted:It always reminded me of this, more: But there is nothing funny about that scene. It's horrifying. Willy Wonka is the scariest poo poo.
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Bugblatter posted:But there is nothing funny about that scene. It's horrifying. Willy Wonka is the scariest poo poo. I was really disappointed with the Burton Wonka film because it showed the children leaving in the factory. In the musical, I just assumed they had all died.
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Aatrek posted:Well, hey now. This was from TNG? They are just living up to the tradition of the the Original. Except those were in the 1960s, thus they were much more:    Based on the article, 'crossed boobstraps' and 'belly dancer' were frequent design elements. Quite a few won't look out of place in The Fifth Element. The MSJ fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Feb 19, 2013 |
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effectual posted:But you're an out of shape goon, Scotty isn't, also the imminent threat of death is a great motivator. Which it does, and shouldn't, because it's boring.
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Some minutes have more than 60 seconds. Maybe related to time dilation at superluminal speeds? E: it has this weird comic book feel. It seriously kills my suspense of disbelief (in the context of a movie with time traveling, angry elves). Not even getting into the "air" thing, Scotty is bent around all these tubes as if his body had no joints, no physicality. Kirk runs around like a confused chicken. The valve blows open, Scotty falls to the ground flat on his chest from a height of at least 3, 4 meters, dead and limp. He gets up as if nothing had happened - again, as if he had no bones at all, as if he were a comic figure. He gets up from that, and he doesn't even breathe too heavy after being submerged in un-purified "active reactant" (malt?) for a minute. It's cartoon slapstick. Which totally isn't the humor I usually enjoy in the series, which is the different characters clashing. I like the new Scotty, he's a character with quite some humor, his overenthusiasm ("I never beamed three targets from two ships onto one platform!") is great. Most of the humor in Star Trek tends to be verbal, or in subtle gestures. Cingulate fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Feb 19, 2013 |
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's a minute long. Exactly. It also provides a moment of danger and energy in order to break up what would otherwise be a very long sequence of people standing around talking to each other. e: also "can I have a towel please" is a fantastic line perfectly delivered, so it's worth it for that
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I don't find people standing around talking boring by itself, especially since the next scene is Spock choking out Kirk after a shouting match and the next scene is Kirk taking the helm and the next scene is the Enterprise rising like Venus from the sea foam of Saturn. People standing around talking in the face of bad special effects is what defines Star Trek! That, and slow shots of approaching the Enterprise from behind. Alchenar posted:e: also "can I have a towel please" is a fantastic line perfectly delivered, so it's worth it for that
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Cingulate posted:Most of the humor in Star Trek tends to be verbal, or in subtle gestures. In The Trouble With Tribbles, Kirk sat on a tribble like it was a whoopie cushion. Just saying.
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Great_Gerbil posted:Tribbles I have dramatically cut the length of your post yet it retains its point perfectly!
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Shanty posted:I have dramatically cut the length of your post yet it retains its point perfectly! Also the entire episode of Spocks Brain. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Feb 19, 2013 |
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Cingulate posted:Most of the humor in Star Trek tends to be verbal, or in subtle gestures. Is this the same series where we see a starship captain is seen grappling and walking away from a bearhug from a guy in a lizard suit that can supposedly lift a 1 ton boulder? How bout an aging out of shape starship captain that would have trouble with a flight of stairs free climbing the face of El Capitan? There has been plenty of slapstick in Star Trek. Intentional or not, its there, tilt camera, everyone stumble that way! Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Feb 19, 2013 |
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Cingulate posted:Most of the humor in Star Trek tends to be verbal, or in subtle gestures. Spaceman Future! posted:Is this the same series where we see a starship captain is seen grappling and walking away from a bearhug from a guy in a lizard suit that can supposedly lift a 1 ton boulder? How bout an aging out of shape starship captain that would have trouble with a flight of stairs free climbing the face of El Capitan? There has been plenty of slapstick in Star Trek. Intentional or not, its there, tilt camera, everyone stumble that way! Let's not also forget this: 
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Cingulate posted:Most of the humor in Star Trek tends to be verbal, or in subtle gestures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQA-06kSLU
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