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menino posted:So does Bulgarian have some kind of sprachbund thing going on? Why is it the only Slavic language with articles?
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While trying to figure out why there are only indefinite articles used around Dresden, I found a politically-loaded map:
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# ? Apr 20, 2013 18:33 |
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A map showing penetration of West German TV signals into East Germany.
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Economist map showing UK constituencies as equal size to better depict the geographical party split which isn't visible on regular party mapping. http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/04/mapping-britain
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 01:08 |
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twoot posted:Economist map showing UK constituencies as equal size to better depict the geographical party split which isn't visible on regular party mapping. I'm amazed that someone finally figured out how to make a population representative map that didn't look like a malignant tumor. Also why does the map leave off the northern Irish?
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Dusseldorf posted:I'm amazed that someone finally figured out how to make a population representative map that didn't look like a malignant tumor. Also why does the map leave off the northern Irish? I'd assume because NI doesn't conform to the Labour/Conservative/Liberal split which occurs on the mainland. It has lots of its own smaller parties. twoot fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 21, 2013 |
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eSports Chaebol posted:It's believed that at one point more Yoopers spoke Cornish than people in Cornwall. I just learned that a couple of months ago at a Celtic language conference here in Brittany. poo poo blew my mind because the Cornish dude who told me that and I were speaking Breton and in Breton I don't really have an identifiably American accent despite being born and raised in Michigan, but at first I thought he was just kinda loving with me. Breton speakers as a percentage of the population. Map of the "linguistic border" since 900 AD, although this isn't quite accurate as Breton was spoken as far east as Bourc'h Batz (Batz-sur-Mer in French) in the Loire Atlantique until the 1950s and the last speaker of that dialect died only recently.
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twoot posted:I'd assume because NI doesn't conform to the Labour/Conservative/Liberal split which occurs on the mainland. It has lots of its own smaller parties. Yeah, the three major parties don't run candidates at all there.
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The Monkey Man posted:A map showing penetration of West German TV signals into East Germany. This is an awesome map. I wonder when that map was developed. Had to be well after the war, no?
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 03:10 |
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The Monkey Man posted:A map showing penetration of West German TV signals into East Germany. Did off the shelf East German TVs pick up West German broadcasts? Edit: Besides Radio Free Europe type broadcasts specifically for Eastern audiences.
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 03:32 |
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A currently relevant politically-loaded map:
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 03:36 |
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Dusseldorf posted:Did off the shelf East German TVs pick up West German broadcasts? The DDR didn't officially ban its citizens from watching West German TV until 1973, but even then, they didn't enforce it that much. Compare that to North Korea, where TVs and radios have their dials fixed so they can only receive the government stations.
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 03:43 |
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The other reason is that while East and West Germany used different standards (SECAM and PAL respectively), they could still be received easily with black and white broadcasts and eventually decoders for PAL to SECAM were manufactured and eventually even built into standard on East German television. On the other hand South Korea (Along with Japan, Taiwan, the Philipines, and North America at least) used NTSC (switched to ATSC four months ago) while North Korea uses PAL.
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 05:21 |
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The end result of the Berlin Conference.
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 05:59 |
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Angiepants posted:The end result of the Berlin Conference. I'm particularly fond of the Congo Pedicle
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The Monkey Man posted:Yeah, the three major parties don't run candidates at all there. Though the UUP is affiliated with the Tories and I believe the SDLP actually take the Labour whip at Westminster.
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Soviet Commubot posted:I just learned that a couple of months ago at a Celtic language conference here in Brittany. poo poo blew my mind because the Cornish dude who told me that and I were speaking Breton and in Breton I don't really have an identifiably American accent despite being born and raised in Michigan, but at first I thought he was just kinda loving with me. To be fair, it is easy not to have an identifiable accent in a language no one speaks. I mean, no one hears my American accent when I speak Kemetic.
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Shbobdb posted:To be fair, it is easy not to have an identifiable accent in a language no one speaks. I mean, no one hears my American accent when I speak Kemetic. I know you're just shitposting here because you're mad about moonspeak or whatever, but there are about 200,000 people who speak Breton and I speak Breton more often than I speak either French or English.
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BOWLES'S EUROPEAN GEOGRAPHICAL AMUSEMENT (or a Game of Geoography) Designed 1795. quote:DIRECTIONS for PLAYING QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Apr 21, 2013 |
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Follow up on the east germany talk. Guess what city this is...
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 14:47 |
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Berlin.
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 14:58 |
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A fried of mine posted that Berlin pic too, saying that you could tell the east from space based on the chemical composition of its light bulbs, which for some reason hadn't changed since reunification.
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Similarly:
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http://robertspage.com/dialects.html
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QuoProQuid posted:BOWLES'S EUROPEAN GEOGRAPHICAL AMUSEMENT (or a Game of Geoography) 43. GENOA, capital of the republic of that name; surnamed the proud, from its grand buildings; here the traveler must stay four turns, and then go back to Rouen, 3. On account of the cruelty of the Genoese to the Corsicians. 45. CORSICA, an Island in the Mediterranean, celebrated for its long struggle with the Genoese, in the glorious cause of liberty. Genoa
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 16:50 |
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A much better map: http://aschmann.net/AmEng/
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# ? Apr 21, 2013 17:01 |
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Panas posted:
Some things soviet block did right - sodium vapor lamps of the east are superior to mercury lamps of the west
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Kurtofan posted:43. GENOA, capital of the republic of that name; surnamed the proud, from its grand buildings; here the traveler must stay four turns, and then go back to Rouen, 3. On account of the cruelty of the Genoese to the Corsicians. The glowing compliments toward Corsica might be because the island's government petitioned England for annexation about a year after the map was made.
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quote:They sometimes call doughnuts cymbals, simballs, and boil cakes. I've never heard anyone ever call a doughnut anything but a doughtnut and I've never not lived in New England.
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Pyromancer posted:Some things soviet block did right - sodium vapor lamps of the east are superior to mercury lamps of the west There's an ongoing plan to get them replaced with more efficient lighting, like LEDs specifically designed to mirror the color of the old gas lamps. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/26/16017872-warm-glow-of-berlins-beautiful-gas-streetlights-set-to-fade
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Soviet Commubot, I've been wondering: how did you as an American from Michigan end up with the language revival efforts in Brittany? quote:The United States of Greater Austria (German: Vereinigte Staaten von Groß-Österreich) was a proposal, conceived by a group of scholars surrounding the Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand, that never came to pass. This specific proposal was conceived by Aurel Popovici in 1906.
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Panas posted:
What the hell, I had a smaller version of this picture as my desktop background for a good while and never even noticed the difference in color. Then again, I've never noticed it from a ground level perspective either. Guavanaut posted:A lot of that warm yellow glow over East Berlin is gas lighting, not sodium vapor. Pretty sure that's not a east/west thing, though. There's plenty of gas lighting in West Berlin.
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Soviet Commubot posted:I know you're just shitposting here because you're mad about moonspeak or whatever, but there are about 200,000 people who speak Breton and I speak Breton more often than I speak either French or English. Seriously though, how identifiable is an American accent in Breton? How often do Breton speakers hear any accent other than a French one? Is an American accent in Breton distinguishable from a British or Australian one? I learned Occitan/Catalan years ago, and no one could identify my accent as American either. It's because most people in Perpinya or Girona had never met an American who spoke their language before. TheImmigrant fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Apr 21, 2013 |
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Soviet Commubot posted:I know you're just shitposting here because you're mad about moonspeak or whatever, but there are about 200,000 people who speak Breton and I speak Breton more often than I speak either French or English. The question's been asked before but I'm really curious what an American is doing in France who identifies with Breton nationalists and is also a socialist. How to people react when you're being an activist for the Breton cause, as a friend or unwanted interference?
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Guavanaut posted:A lot of that warm yellow glow over East Berlin is gas lighting, not sodium vapor. He's not talking about sodium vapor in the air, he's referring to the gas used in the lamp. Yellow street lights are almost always high pressure sodium lamps, old school low pressure sodium lamps are yellower and larger. The white-ish light is produced by mercury vapor lamps or newer metal halide lamps that you might see lighting parking lots in the US. HPS lamps are brighter per watt than metal halide or mercury vapor because they don't try to put out a full(er) spectrum of light.
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HighClassSwankyTime posted:The question's been asked before but I'm really curious what an American is doing in France who identifies with Breton nationalists and is also a socialist. How to people react when you're being an activist for the Breton cause, as a friend or unwanted interference? A lot of European-Americans try to make an active effort to understand and preserve their heritage. If you're British or French or whatever you probably know in a general sense where your ancestors came from, but many Americans have no idea where they came from beyond "I'm white, and all my grandparents were born here". People want to know where they came from and want to preserve that heritage, and when you are far away from where your ancestors were, you need to make an active effort to do that. A corollary issue is the fact that it's almost impossible to trace the heritage of an African-American beyond "Well, your ancestor may have been owned by John Smith, who ran a plantation in South Carolina."
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duodenum posted:He's not talking about sodium vapor in the air, he's referring to the gas used in the lamp. Yellow street lights are almost always high pressure sodium lamps, old school low pressure sodium lamps are yellower and larger. The white-ish light is produced by mercury vapor lamps or newer metal halide lamps that you might see lighting parking lots in the US. HPS lamps are brighter per watt than metal halide or mercury vapor because they don't try to put out a full(er) spectrum of light.
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Gangs of Chicago Now: And then:
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Konstantin posted:A lot of European-Americans try to make an active effort to understand and preserve their heritage. If you're British or French or whatever you probably know in a general sense where your ancestors came from, but many Americans have no idea where they came from beyond "I'm white, and all my grandparents were born here". People want to know where they came from and want to preserve that heritage, and when you are far away from where your ancestors were, you need to make an active effort to do that. A corollary issue is the fact that it's almost impossible to trace the heritage of an African-American beyond "Well, your ancestor may have been owned by John Smith, who ran a plantation in South Carolina." Not even just European-Americans, it's pretty true of immigrants the world over. And you're being pretty gracious about it "make an active effort to understand and preserve their heritage" , but expatriates and descendants of immigrants are as a rule ridiculously irrational about everything to do with their home nation. Terrorist groups like the IRA and LTTE are primarily funded by descendents of immigrants rather than people actually having to live with them day to day, for instance. I say this as an irrational expatriate; I get so much angrier at criticism of my home country now than I did when I was actually living there. So yeah being an American wouldn't really tangle with being Breton.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm not implying that there's any sodium vapor in the air, just that a large amount of street lighting in Berlin is gaslight due to the Soviet reillumination program post-WW2, and that there has been opposition to them being replaced even though they're inefficient and have high CO2 emissions. One of the suggested solutions is an LED replacement with a similar color to the gaslights. I see what you're saying, they are literal gas powered lamps. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/26/16017872-warm-glow-of-berlins-beautiful-gas-streetlights-set-to-fade
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