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beatlegs posted:I'm not white knighting Hayes or anything, although I think he's an excellent journalist, but I always thought punchability was primarily about offensiveness/horrible policy positions and looks were sort of a secondary aspect. When we like someone, we automatically seek out qualities in their faces that let us forgive their faults or that are positive. A John Merick will have us seeking the little bit of humanity in his eyes poking out from the mess of twisted flesh. Meanwhile an attractive woman hired to Fox for her looks and her ability to parrot horrible right-wing extremist positions might as well be a crazed wild-eyed deadite from Evil Dead, wearing the attractive young flesh of a tortured soul. (Now you know what a bizarre sometimes alien experience TV news watching can be for someone like myself.) Or if you want to get more specific, the otherwise all right looking Michelle Bachmann has us very often unnerved by her wide-eyed glare; we'd forgive this visual fault of her if she were compassionate in her actions, and not a horrible hate-mongering right wing christian dominionist whose family business makes money off of exploiting tortured gay people. We automatically read her face as crazy - she almost seems to wear her deluded denial and false nature on her sleeve. Or rather, her phony fake reptillian smiles and glazed-over eyes. There's also something to be said about certain facial qualities of falsehood or insanity or whatever showing up with age or being present in the tics in a person's face. We can see when someone is lying if they are making small scientific micro-expressions that give away their false nature. There's also clinical qualities to look for that demonstrate symptoms of mental illness, or other states of altered psychology even if the person isn't necessarily insane. (For example, seeing through a sociopath's superficial charm.) Furthermore - in aged people, wrinkles and skin wear also can demonstrate over time what type of a person someone is - someone who is very negative will have scowling wrinkles, but someone who is positive will have lots of laugh lines and wrinkles of genuine "true" smiles. (As opposed to wrinkles created by fake smiling all the time.) With stuff like this considered, it isn't as cut and dry as us passing judgement based on our visual impression/opinion of someone's general makeup. But that is a major factor. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 30, 2013 |
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Bloodplay it again posted:But, hey, at least she went to a good school. I went to EIU and I think maybe 5% of the students can name all three branches of US government. Good sir, I attended EIU and I can name all three branches of government. Judicial, Legislative and Tony Romo. I was raised and still live in Southern Illinois but I know of many parents who worry about their children going to UIUC because they believe it will turn their children into liberals. They are torn because on one side there is the "liberalization" of higher education and on the other side is the "prestige" still held with a UIUC diploma.
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May 30, 2013 03:57
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Isn't this a pretty common trope among conservatives? "Liebrul commie professors brainwashing our kids  "?
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May 30, 2013 03:59
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Azuth0667 posted:What the gently caress, who did this quote:Who May Nominate Candidates for the Peace Prize? It's not hard to be nominated for the Nobel Prize, actually, literally thousands of nominations are sent in every year. Source
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May 30, 2013 04:00
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platedlizard posted:It's not hard to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, actually, literally thousands of nominations are sent in every year. I know it's super loving pedantic, but the Peace Prize has no relation to the actual Nobel Prize.
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May 30, 2013 04:09
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ErIog posted:I know it's super loving pedantic, but the Peace Prize has no relation to the actual Nobel Prize. What is the actual Nobel Prize at this point? Apparently the Peace and Economics prizes are both pseudo Nobels?
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May 30, 2013 04:19
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ErIog posted:I know it's super loving pedantic, but the Peace Prize has no relation to the actual Nobel Prize. You'll have to explain it to me, because everything I can find on it treats the nomination process the same for everything. Unless there are two Nobel Peace Prizes out there or something?
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May 30, 2013 04:21
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Azuth0667 posted:What the gently caress, who did this For his advocacy of DDT use, if I recall correctly. He is ardenly against the (non-existant) global DDT ban and thinks we can solve malaria by using DDT in all jungle areas (it's already used everywhere it can be, but mosquitoes have evolved to resist it now)
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May 30, 2013 04:41
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Rygar201 posted:What is the actual Nobel Prize at this point? Apparently the Peace and Economics prizes are both pseudo Nobels? I don't know what they're talking about, but the Nobel Peace Prize was one of the five original prizes set up by Alfred Nobel, the only difference is it's the only one whose committee isn't Swedish. Nobel specifically requested a Norwegian committee for it, though. I mean, it's definitely a silly prize that often gets given to people that don't really deserve it at all, but it's just as much a Nobel Prize as the other four. Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, and Literature were the other four set up by Nobel; Economics was set up 60 years after the fact, yeah. Idran fucked around with this message at 04:53 on May 30, 2013 |
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May 30, 2013 04:51
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Goatman Sacks posted:For his advocacy of DDT use, if I recall correctly. He is ardenly against the (non-existant) global DDT ban and thinks we can solve malaria by using DDT in all jungle areas (it's already used everywhere it can be, but mosquitoes have evolved to resist it now) I don't get it because he advocates for a notorious organochlorine insecticide he gets a nomination? Do they not take into account horrible xenophobia and war advocacy?
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platedlizard posted:You'll have to explain it to me, because everything I can find on it treats the nomination process the same for everything. Unless there are two Nobel Peace Prizes out there or something? The nomination processes for Physics, Chemistry, and Medicine all say that only people who have received requests from the board to submit names for nominations may submit them. The Literature prize is similar, but they also take unsolicited nominations from qualified people. Peace Prize nominations are most similar to Literature, but it's a hell of a lot more open. Rygar201 posted:What is the actual Nobel Prize at this point? Apparently the Peace and Economics prizes are both pseudo Nobels? It looks like I was mistaken about this too, and they're actually a lot more closely linked than I had thought. Economics isn't quite legitimate because it isn't one of the 5 that Nobel asked to be given out in his will. While Peace is one of those, he left the handling of it up to Norwegian parliament which makes the entire process very political. The other prizes are all handled by Swedish Royal Academies or Institutes. I don't really know why I thought they were so separate. I may have been getting the Peace prize confused with the Economics one as far as which ones were laid out in the will and which ones weren't.
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May 30, 2013 05:02
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Isn't this a pretty common trope among conservatives? "Liebrul commie professors brainwashing our kids Yes. And public school teachers. Right now in Michigan some Republican state reps are opposing establishing statewide educational standards because it's an attempt at UN indoctrination or something something.
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Azuth0667 posted:What the gently caress, who did this Probably a proto-tea party congressman.
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XyloJW posted:And Freakazoid. And Beavis and Butthead... well sort of. http://www.break.com/usercontent/2010/1/beavis-butthead-rush-limbaugh-parody-1655418
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May 30, 2013 06:34
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As long as we're talking about Rush and the 90's... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpFO4MwHUQ
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May 30, 2013 06:52
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ErIog posted:The nomination processes for Physics, Chemistry, and Medicine all say that only people who have received requests from the board to submit names for nominations may submit them. The Literature prize is similar, but they also take unsolicited nominations from qualified people. Thanks, I was really confused because they have the same official webpage, so I was wondering if you were saying they were being run by different organizations or something.
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I don't know if this came before or after his own late night show, but for the 10 or so days Pat Sajack (Himself a right wing nut job) had a late night show he invited Rush to fill in for him one night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK4byQkn7w Spoiler Alert: it doesn't go well for 'ol Rusty.
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May 30, 2013 07:30
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I could have sworn the talk has been that the Sajak show event actually is what catapulted him through a larger threshold of public awareness, despite his existing radio popularity. I wonder if there is some alternate reality where no one from the audience started to flip out at him, resulting in him not having the ability to present himself as a polarizing figure as much as he did within a few years.
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Didn't know about the transcriber. You ever wonder if the transcriber is being totally honest? Like, as an explanation for some of his loopier statements?
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May 30, 2013 12:41
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Rockopolis posted:Didn't know about the transcriber. You ever wonder if the transcriber is being totally honest? Like, as an explanation for some of his loopier statements? There was never a man less disabled by deafness than Limbaugh. He does not really need to hear others in order to bloviate. His producer could just hold up a legal pad with "GAYS" or "OBAMACARE" written on it in Sharpie and his listeners would not be able to tell the difference.
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That's actually a good point. I was going to aim for the "God is cruel and didn't make him mute", but that's good. I would rather have Rush do a show completely using teletype, though.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I could have sworn the talk has been that the Sajak show event actually is what catapulted him through a larger threshold of public awareness, despite his existing radio popularity. Even if Sajak had prescreened the audience it would have happened elsewhere. Rush's abilities as an "entertainer" are wildly exaggerated by fans of his ideology. What he is, is the best at what he does....but that doesn't have a very wide appeal. When the GOP decided to go full retard after the 08 election you would hope at least someone in the room thought it might not be the best idea in the world to kowtow openly to a man that has been an absolute train wreck every single time he's exposed himself to a mass audience outside the bubble.
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Azuth0667 posted:What the gently caress, who did this It's not particularly difficult: quote:Who May Nominate Candidates for the Peace Prize? http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomination/#nominators
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May 30, 2013 20:45
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Fox News host John Stossel: "Think about the [Great] Depression. That was before there was any welfare state at all. How many people starved? No one." It's amazing how some people in this country have such a poor grasp on its history.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Fox News host John Stossel: "Think about the [Great] Depression. That was before there was any welfare state at all. How many people starved? No one." Not surprising, John Stossel is literally Ron Burgundy according to my wife who interned for ABC as an associate producer while he was there. He's also a huge perv apparently according to some of her other stories about him. This really doesn't add anything to this story but hopefully now when you see him you'll think of Will Ferrell and laugh.
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May 30, 2013 20:51
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Those lines were actually for a new kind of bread that was just super popular.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Fox News host John Stossel: "Think about the [Great] Depression. That was before there was any welfare state at all. How many people starved? No one." You're right Stossel, the Great Depression did occur when there was very little to no welfare state, while the New Deal was the beginning of larger public works projects and social benefits. I wonder what I should make of that fact 
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quote:But in New York City in 1931, there were 20 known cases of starvation; in 1934, there were 110 deaths caused by hunger. There were so many accounts of people starving in New York that the West African nation of Cameroon sent $3.77 in relief.
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http://www.oralchelation.com/ingred/B3.htm For more information, see http://www.jmcgowan.com/pellagra.pdf Basically hundreds of thousands of Americans died due to malnutrition prior to the intervention of the U.S. government to mandate the fortification of flour with niacin, which wasn't completed till the 1940's.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Fox News host John Stossel: "Think about the [Great] Depression. That was before there was any welfare state at all. How many people starved? No one." John Stossel is totally eligible for a shitload of government benefits like disability, and I am sure they are real and need to be cut. Also, commerce and agriculture just happen, we don't need so called "Departments" for that poo poo. Next you'll tell me we have a Environment agency, and the environment was totally fine for millions of years without that mess, so get rid of that too man. I did like how he went to the street and showed all of 2 reactions to how we should cut the debt. Wonder how many people he asked that had real answers that he had to cut out.
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Four in ten house holds now have a female bread winner? A sign of social change and equality in the work place? NO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORINpVUEtE
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Whiteycar posted:Four in ten house holds now have a female bread winner? Man, so many  being dropped here! quote:When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society, and the other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complimentary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complimentary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart. Wow! Look at all that science truth!
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Whiteycar posted:Four in ten house holds now have a female bread winner? These aren't men, they're whiny bitches.
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Crasscrab posted:Man, so many They don't actually know anything about nature, do they. The glorious Bald Eagle, Symbol of 'Merkia's Freedom, would like to have a word. 
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platedlizard posted:They don't actually know anything about nature, do they. The only thing about nature they need to know is that man strong, woman weak! 
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Whiteycar posted:Four in ten house holds now have a female bread winner? Erickson not only asks viewers to look to animals for moral guidance, but is also completely wrong about how sex operates in the animal kingdom.  He is in danger of forming a quantum singularity of error.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Rush's abilities as an "entertainer" are wildly exaggerated by fans of his ideology. What he is, is the best at what he does....but that doesn't have a very wide appeal.
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Plexiwatt posted:Erickson not only asks viewers to look to animals for moral guidance, but is also completely wrong about how sex operates in the animal kingdom. We should introduce him to the male anglerfish, aka the one that gets absorbed into the female. Or the female lioness, who does all the hunting and gets soaked in blood and poo poo and is generally metal as hell. Or maybe go a bit simpler. I'm sure they've heard of the black widow spider.
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:We should introduce him to the male anglerfish, aka the one that gets absorbed into the female. Or the female lioness, who does all the hunting and gets soaked in blood and poo poo and is generally metal as hell. Or you know, bears. Not like "mama bear" is synonmous with being large, angry, and violent at all.
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Protocol 5 posted:So what you're saying is that Rush Limbaugh is the conservative talk radio version of Wolverine. We need to do something about this mutant menace. Once again, Magneto was right. "Not all those with power are fit to rule."
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